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Posted: 11/04/11 07:20 PM ET

Wednesday's general strike in Oakland pointed up some of the promise, and the problems, of the loose-knit Occupy Wall Street movement.

When it began in New York, less than two months ago, I wondered what the protesters were trying to accomplish. I also wondered why it had taken so long for a protest movement to focus on Wall Street.

The big protest in Oakland Wednesday marked another big step in what I think the movement is actually about, i.e., an attempt to create a new intellectual space, as it were.

A space both within people's minds, as in changing consciousness, and a space within the media flow.

It's a new presence on the scene, and a logical political development as such. But it's a delicate sort of thing.

"The 99%" is a brilliant concept. And so is the focus on Wall Street as the epicenter of casino capitalism.

The "Occupy" part of Occupy Wall Street gets more problematic, when taken literally. And the Occupy fill-in-the-blank becomes more problematic still.

Take Occupy Oakland, for example. What does it mean to "occupy Oakland?"

Oakland has a lefty mayor, Jean Quan. It's not easy to find a more politically correct mayor than Quan, a UC Berkeley-educated pol who backed the disaster known as Ebonics during her stint on the Oakland school board. (Quan is an inoffensive sort elected in a surprise as a little scrutinized widespread second pick in the city's well-meaning new ranked choice "instant run-off" system. She managed to offend all sides through her desire not to offend. First by siding with the protesters but being out of town when the police moved in to end the encampment, then by letting the encampment start up again.)

Before Quan, Oakland's mayor was Ron Dellums, a self-avowed socialist who railed against the military-industrial complex for decades in Congress.

Which is to say that Oakland is not exactly the belly of the beast. To the extent there is a big machine, and to the extent that it's run from anywhere, it's sure not run out of Oakland.

Oakland is already occupied, or close to it, in the sense of being on board with the 99% concept.

But if something else is envisioned, something more literal-minded, something like the Paris Commune of 1871, a short-lived assumption of power by the working class, founded on theories of participatory democracy, well, that's another matter entirely. Especially considering that the general strike called for Oakland on Wednesday did not materialize.

A general strike is not just a large protest, it's a mass work stoppage. That didn't happen, nor did it come close to happening.

Even the brief closing of the Port of Oakland was not a strike. The actual workers didn't go out themselves, they were prevented from working by the protesters. And now they are back at work.

Then there was the problem of Wednesday night.

As of 5 p.m. Pacific Wednesday, the Occupy Wall Street-affiliated general strike in Oakland appeared relatively stable, quite large, quite spirited, and not a general strike. Despite many activist claims in the morning, the Port of Oakland was not closed at any time during the day.

The crowd was well into the thousands, but certainly not sizable enough to occupy much of the city and most businesses and public agencies had remained open. There had been some vandalism, but not much and what there has been has been largely quelled by other protesters. The often aggressive Oakland police had a lower key presence.

In the early evening, after a large march to the port by a swelling crowd of protesters, the port was closed. Some protesters tried to get on and block the Bay Bridge, but were themselves blocked by California Highway Patrol officers who had anticipated the move.

Most protesters either dispersed or returned to downtown Oakland. And there, very late on Wednesday night, a familiar pattern ensued. A small group of protesters turned to vandalism and taunting of police, seizing an empty building which had previously housed a social service agency, before more than 100 were arrested.

Oakland was the scene of big and frequently violent protests in 2009 and 2010 over the killing of Oscar Grant -- for whom Occupy Oakland has renamed the plaza they've taken over -- an unarmed black man killed by a white transit cop (an unfortunate fellow who says he thought he'd pulled his stun gun). There was much looting and vandalism done in the name of protest. The police blamed most of the violence on a small band of anarchists, as they do now.

But small band or not, the violence gets big media coverage, as anyone who understands media would expect. Unless the problem is solved, i.e., the rough stuff is done away with, the Occupy movement has a terrible problem.

When I was in Campuses United Against Apartheid, part of the successful movement to force the university system to divest its investments in corporations doing business in apartheid era South Africa, at UC Berkeley, I got a lot of experience in protest politics. Especially Bay Area style.

The Bay Area has its own permanent protest cadre. Angela Davis of '60s radical fame was a somewhat fading figure a few decades ago during the anti-apartheid movement, and she was front and center again on Wednesday in Oakland.

And there's a phenomenon I call premature vanguardism, in which activists spending all their time in the eye of the storm come to imagine that, since they have all this media attention, they must be leading a wave of social change and that, if they decide something, it has vast import.

There are many predictable calls from conventional liberals for the protesters to get behind predictable programs, to become, in other words, like them. But since the protesters operate on consensus, something very hard to achieve, and are an expanding and contracting mass depending on timing and circumstance, that's off-target.

Group dynamics reward those who put in the most time, and almost by definition those folks will be those who are most divorced from the mainstream. The only question is how doctrinaire they are, and those doctrines aren't likely to be club-able.

Nor should they be.

Think tanks and cocktail parties usually aren't mechanisms of political breakthroughs. They're mechanisms of routinization.

A protest movement is something different, a vector of change that acts as a beacon, not a position paper.

Ironically, the routine that many protesters despise is a danger for their movement. An occupied park or other public space is daring and controversial for a time. But if it is allowed and, over time, ignored -- which would be a sophisticated establishment response -- it can become part of the background scenery. Like Hare Krishnas used to be.

And the temptation to go beyond that by turning to more aggressive confrontation runs the risk of marginalizing the movement by turning off the very 99 percent they want to speak for.

Probably all they can agree on is better political theater and selective acts of opposition, like getting people to withdraw their funds from big banks. And, so long as the theater is not destructive, that has real value in stimulating and re-centering debate.

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Wednesday's general strike in Oakland pointed up some of the promise, and the problems, of the loose-knit Occupy Wall Street movement. When it began in New York, less than two months ago, I wondered ...
Wednesday's general strike in Oakland pointed up some of the promise, and the problems, of the loose-knit Occupy Wall Street movement. When it began in New York, less than two months ago, I wondered ...
 
 
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11:51 AM on 11/10/2011
Incidentally, the latest piece -- "Recalling Joe Frazier: An Appreciation, and a Note of Horror" -- is online now ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-bradley/joe-frazier-dead_b_1085164.html
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12:58 AM on 11/06/2011
It will be interesting to watch how this movement develops and if it even has enough steam - or time, for that matter - to persist long enough for group dynamics to take effect and shape the predictably unclub-able doctrines.

It has less than a year, in any event, if it hopes to have any impact on the outcome of the 2012 elections. And, at the risk of sounding predictable and off-target not to mention counter-intuitive, that should be part of what motivates these protesters if they wish their movement to be a vector of change and motivator of progress through the foreseeable future.

>Group dynamics reward those who put in the most time, and almost by definition those folks will be those who are most divorced from the mainstream. The only question is how doctrinaire they are, and those doctrines aren't likely to be club-able.
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02:52 AM on 11/06/2011
As much as you only see the Protests and Marching of the mainstream large group Occupy'ers, I assure you that some of us - many of us - in multiple groups- realized long ago that a Voice that has no Body will not long survive. A group within the groups has formed and is using the social media online to connect and research the laws that were allowed to bring down America - so they can be fixed and get voter petitions out there to make these important changes reality - in every State and in the Federal Government. They are leading by example, and are more than just a Voice in the Streets calling out for Change. Look for them in your local Occupy groups - or if you want to join us - then find the richest 1% city Occupy Group in Southern California whose City Council voted unanimously a week or so ago to let them "sleep on their lawn". It was in the local county newspaper, so you should be able to find them. No experience necessary - just honesty.
07:06 AM on 11/06/2011
Wow, a left wing happening in California. Gee, that really unusual and unique.
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11:35 AM on 11/06/2011
That's very mysterious.

What are you talking about?
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04:33 PM on 11/06/2011
I don't think this is about elections. It's a more comprehensive perspective than that.

But at the very least, protesters have to avoid becoming fodder for a conservative victory if they are to be at all successful.
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06:08 PM on 11/06/2011
I know. I don't think it's about elections or about Democrats and Republicans, either. What I'm saying is that it should be if they want to make a difference.

Comprehensive perspectives and intellectual history are all well and good. But, if we are in for a repeat of November 2010 next year, then what can be the positive impact of the OWS movement over the course the next half decade?
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12:25 AM on 11/06/2011
Now, THAT was funny! Well, it made me laugh out loud, anyway. No disrespect to the OWS protesters intended ... they just don't strike me as having that sort of vision, backward or forward. :)

>But if something else is envisioned, something more literal-minded, something like the Paris Commune of 1871, a short-lived assumption of power by the working class, founded on theories of participatory democracy, well, that's another matter entirely.
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11:37 AM on 11/06/2011
They don't? That's probably what the core group wants. Don't be so superior...
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05:34 PM on 11/06/2011
You think the core group envision something akin to the Paris Commune?

Don't be so ridiculous ...
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04:35 PM on 11/06/2011
Actually, it's no joke at all. I'm quite sure that's what some folks have in mind.

The Paris Commune is a legend in left-wing circles. I was joking with a friend in New York who was burbling about OWS there.
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06:02 PM on 11/06/2011
Really. Well then, I am going to have to start paying closer attention to the OWS protesters.

I guess this means that they won't be doing everything in their power to prevent Republicans from being elected next November, as they don't make any distinctions between the two parties, intellectual history notwithstanding ...
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07:56 PM on 11/06/2011
Yes, well, I don't think you need to share a few laughs with a New York friend to know what's up in left-wing circles. :)

>The Paris Commune is a legend in left-wing circles. I was joking with a friend in New York who was burbling about OWS there.
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09:35 PM on 11/05/2011
From the Violin Concerto desk:
http://www.myteapartyconvention.com/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/09/national-tea-party-convention-cancelled-over-lagging-ticket-sales/

I hope this isn't too off topic.

Less off topic, since violence came up:
Check this out:

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"The Church Militant is on the rise
To Teach Them War

In this fast paced DVD presentation, Christian audiences will be exhorted and equipped to begin to train martially . Jam packed with biblical and historical references, "To Teach Them War" breaks new ground with a clarion call to militant discipleship."
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In case I created the mistaken impression that Tea Party supporters aren't *likely* to commit violence, the potential and the ability definitely exist. I merely maintain that the major factor that has prevented Tea Party violence thus far is *because* they command such a massive media voice.
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04:36 PM on 11/06/2011
I'm not at all comfortable with a line of argument that Occupy folks aren't inherently more violent than Tea Party folks. That smells like an emerging excuse.

There needs to be no violence. Period. Full stop.
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09:38 AM on 11/07/2011
I can't tell if you're affirming, rebutting, or merely adding to anything that I've said.

Unfortunately it's difficult to talk objectively about violence, because anything that sounds like a logical explanation begins to sound like an excuse. I agree that it needs to stop. Explanations aren't justifications.
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09:12 PM on 11/05/2011
Since the topic came up regarding who's prone to violence if they can't get their way...

From the far-right "Patriot" Post:
Ballots or Bullets?
http://patriotpost.us/alexander/2011/08/25/ballots-or-bullets/

The article is sufficiently divorced from reality (and shows the sheer mass hallucination that mainstream America is up against).

But the comments are about evenly divided between those of sane, mature principle and those calling for bloodshed.
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11:38 AM on 11/06/2011
Are they trashing buildings and starting fires on the street?

I missed that part...
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04:37 PM on 11/06/2011
There have been some incidents, but nothing like this.
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05:57 PM on 11/05/2011
Someone from the local paper here got Oakland OWS on a video. At one point, it shows one protestor earnestly telling a reporter that OWS does not condone violence but that there's nothing it can do to prevent the violence, and at the same time, not three feet away, a different protestor is calmly explaining to a different reporter why violence is necessary and how breaking a few windows is nothing compared to the violence the US carries out in other countries (the usual lefty shpiel). The whole thing is surreal.

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2011/11/04/occupy-oakland-explains-the-violence-or-doesnt-video

On a tangent, what this illustrates so well is how hard it is for people to self-organize. You know all those countries we tsk-tsk because they have revolution after revolution? Well, it must be like this. Endless squabbling, and nothing getting done until some frustrated guy grabs a gun and, however temporarily, makes everyone march to his drummer. It makes you realize what truly great men our Founding Fathers were, what seriousness and sense of purpose they had.

And yet still, our system is broken. But it won't be OWS that fixes it.
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06:50 PM on 11/05/2011
Well, that's a frakking disaster.

Frustrating to watch, because it would not be hard to jump into that press gaggle and clean the whole situation up in 15 minutes.

>http://blo­g.sfgate.c­om/nov05el­ection/201­1/11/04/oc­cupy-oakla­nd-explain­s-the-viol­ence-or-do­esnt-video
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11:38 AM on 11/06/2011
Heh.
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05:45 PM on 11/05/2011
I'm starting to think OWS is a tragically missed opportunity yet also a predictable one considering that this happens every time extreme liberalism gets involved. OWS validates every single stereotype of the left, from its refusal to have rules and leaders to its affinity for Third World music to its total lack of plans beyond protesting. In fact, far from starting a national conversation, I think OWS drives the 99% to side with the 1%.

We see this in Syria. Right now, the Syrian middle class is pretending hard that nothing's going on. They're not joining the protests of their fellow citizens not because they're afraid of the current regime but because they're more afraid of the protestors. They have sectarian issues we can't pretend to understand, but we can understand our own issues. So who was the fool who thought 99% of America could relate to a white guy in a beard and dreadlocks banging on a bongo drum next to a sign that reads "My degree in Urban Studies is worthless?"

The truth is that 99% of America looks at OWS and sees something that scares it more than the current state of affairs.
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06:53 PM on 11/05/2011
You're over-generalizing from one slice of the media flow.
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12:49 AM on 11/06/2011
Yes, you're right, but it's pretty much the only slice the 99% sees. There has to be more positive coverage.
03:23 PM on 11/05/2011
Secondly, I would not be so quick to dismiss the Tea Party, even as viscerally as I react to their current vision of America. They have been without a doubt supported, and clearly coopted, by their right wing corporate masters, but the frustration over banks and government with which they began is clearly in line with classic American populism, albeit oriented towards right-wing dogma. It reminds me of the beginnings of another movement, this one left-wing, in America over 100 years ago, one that began similarly as a mostly racist, angry group of contrarians to corporate and government power in American society. Today's Labor Movement can and must learn important lessons from the Tea Party in reigniting the populist passion of it's beginnings if it is to survive.
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11:39 AM on 11/06/2011
Really?

Name one time that the Tea Party attacks banks.

>>> t the frustratio n over banks and government with which they began
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11:23 AM on 11/07/2011
I guess we're not getting that example of something I'm unaware of.
03:21 PM on 11/05/2011
A very well done and thought-provoking article as usual, Mr Bradley. As a 15 year union organizer and LA Occupier(as often as work will allow), I must say how awesome it is that people even made the attempt to hold the first general strike in this country in over 50 years. Before then, as you well know, these were done with regularity and with great effect in providing the neccessary political wind in the sails of liberal policy initiatives such as Social Security, etc. However, they also coincided with massive Union organizing drives in strategic sectors of the economy, i.e. manufacturing, just when massive amounts of public capital were being invested in war production. Today, it is the service sector which we can and must organize on a wide scale to build a new middle class foundation. A lesson for next time such a GS is attempted is to sit down in advance with Union leaders and create an organizing strategy to line up the expiration of their workers' contracts in heavily Unionized industries, such as public sector, hotels and healthcare. When that happens, one or two thousand protesters become 100,000 and work in several key industries grinds to a halt. Watch out.
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03:49 PM on 11/05/2011
In San Francisco, the public employee unions are bankrupting the city/county. The benefits the unions "won" were not obtained fairly. They use millions of dollars to influence politicians and elections. Public employee unions are very much much the problem, not the solution. If you believe money should not be used to influence or even own politicians, then tell the unions to stop this practice and the backroom deals with owned politicians. The same applies to big business. Developers and unions are in full assault AGAINST the private sector 99%.

And BTW, union support for Occupy Oakland was mild at best. Union truck drivers at the port of Oakland stated the regular citizens had no right to interrupt the port and only unions had that right.
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04:56 PM on 11/05/2011
I honestly don't understand this obsession with unions, when corporations do exactly the same thing as unions, except they play with 1,000s of times more money.

Our individual share of the public debt is now about $45,000. Virtually all of that money went to finance wars that profit defense contractors and to bail out businesses that capitalism says should have been left to fail.

You throw in "the same applies to big business" as an afterthought, and even then, it seems like you have a thing for "developers." This is all so penny-ante. Have you no concept of the trillions that large corporations have stolen from us? At least what the unions get goes to benefit some little people. Nothing that the corporations get benefits little people.

Read this. This is where your outrage should be directed at.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-real-housewives-of-wall-street-look-whos-cashing-in-on-the-bailout-20110411
05:07 PM on 11/05/2011
No one said Unions are always right; however, they have a legal and fiduciary responsibility to represent their members and organize them for power to achieve the best they can for their families. In doing do, they also lend power and possibility to achieving broader progressive goals, historically the most notable being the 8 hour day, minimum wage and more recently the election of Barack Obama and passage of Health Care Reform. In the San Francisco/Bay Area, this has translated into universal health care within the city and higher wages generally than you will find elsewhere in the country.

"The benefits the unions "won" were not obtained fairly."

The benefits public employee unions obtained were done so through collective bargaining, which is by far the fairest way for all workers to make positive changes for themselves and their families. If all workers demanded the right to organize, you would see wages increase dramatically across the board, as historically they did in this country after the massive organizing of the 1930's and 40's.
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06:52 PM on 11/05/2011
Thanks, I appreciate it.

It was an impressive effort, just not a general strike.

Incidentally, why pull a general strike in Oakland? I sense a lot of visceral reasons, but not strategic reasons.
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03:22 PM on 11/05/2011
A lot of people in the USA assume both San Francisco and Oakland are controlled by a council and mayor sympathetic to the 99% and all liberal causes. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I am a San Franciscan and our supervisor, Sean Elsbernd. is no different than the other 10. They always vote as per instructions from developers and public employee unions. It's a pay for play govt at its worst.

I can tell you for sure the interim mayor of SF, Ed Lee is most concerned about the local Occupies messing up his America's Cup events and lost income for the city. He and Jean Quan more or less share the same owned brain. Both are effectively sales reps for mainland China.

I believe the essence of Occupy is people want to see special interest money cut off to politicians so the general public will get a fair shake from govt and banks. Don't forget to add public employee unions to the pay for play list. The general public has no lobby; maybe Occupy will change that.
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06:57 PM on 11/05/2011
I'm afraid you're getting out on quite a limb, first by lumping Jean Quan with Ed Lee, then by saying that they're just representatives of the People's Republic of China.
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11:40 AM on 11/06/2011
But aren't they Chinese?
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12:23 PM on 11/06/2011
Bill, my main point was the so called liberal govts of SF and Oakland are anti-occupy and not progressive at all.
02:19 PM on 11/05/2011
Why are they burning, or even protesting in, Oakland? All the Wall Street money is over in San Francisco. Marin County, just across the San Rafael Bridge where 99% of the population are 1%-ers, remains untouched. Hmmmmmm. Oh I got it. San Francisco and Marin County are gated communities, with police posted. Everywhere.
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02:29 PM on 11/05/2011
I take it, then, that you have never burn to San Francisco or Marin County ...
02:38 PM on 11/05/2011
Actually I lived in Marin County from 2003-2009. Working the area as a travel/agency ER/Trauma RN.
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02:06 PM on 11/05/2011
>>>The 99%" is a brilliant concept.>>> Not really, since only about a third of Americans approve of OWS, yet OWS pretends to speak for 99%.
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02:09 PM on 11/05/2011
You're talking apples and oranges. Deliberately so.

The 99% concept is brilliant, which is why Fox News is spending so much energy attacking it, and why you are here as well.

The execution is less than brilliant.
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02:19 PM on 11/05/2011
>>>You're talking apples and oranges. Deliberate­ly so.>>>

Actually, no, I'm not. OWS does not speak for the 99% of Americans it's decided to co-opt. They barely speak for the percentage of Americans who make up the Dem party.

Not interested in the tedious Fox attacks. Peddle that nonsense elsewhere.
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11:42 AM on 11/06/2011
First, it's more than that.

Second, OWS is under-performing its concept.

See, that's not hard to understand at all, is it??
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04:43 PM on 11/06/2011
One would think. But some concepts are too sophisticated for a binary mindset.
01:49 PM on 11/05/2011
"the Occupy movement has a terrible problem."

All these occupiers and squatters have a problem. The vandalism we saw in Oakland is a testament to that. These are folks with entitlement mentalities. And those with such mentalities will try to get what they want - even by force and rioting. They don't mean to just inconvenience, but to deprive others (like the port workers and shop owners) of their livlihoods.
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02:11 PM on 11/05/2011
The vandalism, as the police themselves say, was perpetrated by a small segment, most of whom have little if anything to do with Occupy Wall Street and its objectives.
08:56 PM on 11/05/2011
They were part of the group. If one of the vandals had gotten injured, there would have been cries of police brutality by the OWS all over again.

OWS and the squatters know full well that part of their lot are violent anarchists, yet they do nothing to discourage them, but call them part of their movement.

Of course, violence is pretty much guaranteed when a group of folks that think they're entitled don't get what they want.

They also managed to inconvenience and disrupt many common folks just going about their business or doing they jobs.
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11:48 AM on 11/05/2011
You really nail it in you commentary that OWS has created"...a new intellectual space".
I believe OWS has been successful -how many people just a few weeks ago were versed on mortgage backed securities fraud? Some, perhaps, but many more have now looked into a system that many now conclude is rigged.I think that this has shown some of the inadequacies of traditional media, and the changing dynamic where everyone has a camera and video on hand in their phone, and the means to disseminate that. The video of police dressed like paramilitary in Oakland lobbing an explosive device into a crowd helping the wounded was shocking.
I think OWS is a symptom of 14 million unemployed, and additionally 8.9 million underemployed, stagnation in DC. With a middle class facing hardships combined with the perception that the future looks bleak you can see this anger expressed in people leaving Netflix and big banks, with people feeling screwed over.
The stagnation has led to the "remedy" of the Super Congress, where austerity cuts are being proposed with trigger options has serious implications of decree by fiat. You can see this in the Eurozone in actions towards Greece, where the voice of the governed is silenced, and considered too radical to implement.
The program seen now in Europe where austerity measures, the dismantling of collective bargaining and privatization schemes was a model that many believed that Whitman in CA would have followed had she been elected.
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12:03 PM on 11/05/2011
I would just add that asking how do you protest that is a good question!
My personal feeling is that without addressing the fundamental problems of a toxic financial system that we could well be in store for more "shock and awe", with a precipitating incident that either leads many more to join OWS, or form new groups where they feel a more cultural identity. Certainly this has led to a wider discussion, and that is in my opinion a good thing.
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12:51 PM on 11/05/2011
Oh, I don't have any master plan for OWS. That's something that requires some very imaginative and rigorous thought that will take a lot of work.
12:21 PM on 11/05/2011
"I think OWS is a symptom of 14 million unemployed­, and additional­ly 8.9 million underemplo­yed, "
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Exactly; Which resonated with the public. Now that message is obscured by interlopers with various other agendas. It's the jobs, stupid which should be kept before the public. They are not hippies. They are unemployed looking for work should be their mantra.
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11:28 AM on 11/05/2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/04/occupy-oakland-second-veteran-injured
Kayvan Sabehgi in intensive care with a lacerated spleen after protests in Oakland, a week after Scott Olsen was hurt. He says police beat him with batons

Sad to see another Vet almost killed by Oakland police. This story is nowhere in the MSM yet.
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12:55 PM on 11/05/2011
I've seen a few small articles in the California press, but like you first saw the report at the Guardian, the only place I've seen give it prominence.