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Flu Shots: Public Health Begins With You


Certain stories make the headlines every year, like updates on influenza outbreaks during the winter months and public health officials urging the nation to get the vaccine. No one needs to be reminded to put on an extra sweater or a warm coat to ward off winter's chill. So why is it necessary to remind Americans every year to get vaccinated? We should get vaccinated for the same reason we put on that extra sweater -- it just makes sense because it provides good protection.

Every year, thousands of Americans die from influenza and its complications, and hundreds of thousands more are hospitalized. Millions take sick days, lose paychecks and can't meet their daily obligations because of the flu. With safe and effective vaccinations available this year, much of this death and suffering is preventable.

Knowing these grim statistics should move people toward vaccination, but vaccine-shirkers continue to play the odds that they won't get sick. Some of you will win the bet, but some of you won't. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is currently reporting that influenza activity is on the rise across the country. The fever, sore throat, extreme fatigue and muscle aches caused by the influenza virus are starting to appear more frequently, meaning the window for protection through vaccination is starting to close.

If you haven't been vaccinated against influenza this year, there is still time to protect yourself. It takes about two weeks for the vaccine to become fully effective, so anyone who hasn't received it yet can still benefit. If you wait until everyone around you is sick with the flu, it is too late.

There's no shortage of vaccine this year, and it is widely available -- not just from physicians, but also at local pharmacies. It's probably easier to find the influenza vaccine than a great --but -- inexpensive restaurant. We don't have the problem of last year, when the vaccine was a red-hot commodity in limited supply. So why, with a plentiful supply of vaccine, have the same people who stood in line for hours for the vaccine last year not felt compelled to put "flu vaccination" on top of their to-do list?

Influenza vaccination is a win-win choice for keeping ourselves, and society at large, healthier. Influenza is highly contagious. And it's contagious before you have symptoms, so even if you avoid others when you're sick, you won't know to avoid them before you're sick. And that means you're threatening the health of everyone who breathes the same air. One person's illness puts the health of the entire community at risk.

This year, the national struggle to revamp our health care system has spotlighted the link between personal and public health. The failure to look at one's own health results in huge costs, not just for the individual and family, but also for the nation's strained finances.

As individuals, we take action to protect ourselves and others at times of overwhelming danger or in reaction to widespread suffering, sometimes when it is just too late. What we should be doing is engaging in activities that proactively assure our own good health, as well as the health of our nation. Such actions need to become so routine that they are automatic.

If everyone took the simple step of getting vaccinated each year, individual and societal suffering from influenza would be greatly reduced as a public health issue.

Getting vaccinated against influenza is a responsibility we have to ourselves and others. If you have already been vaccinated, we thank you, and hope you urge others to do the same.


William Schaffner, M.D., President of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases

Richard H. Carmona, M.D., M.P.H., FACS, 17th Surgeon General of the United States (2002-2006)

 
Certain stories make the headlines every year, like updates on influenza outbreaks during the winter months and public health officials urging the nation to get the vaccine. No one needs to be reminde...
Certain stories make the headlines every year, like updates on influenza outbreaks during the winter months and public health officials urging the nation to get the vaccine. No one needs to be reminde...
 
 
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Sheldon101
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02:57 PM on 03/08/2011
John and Harold
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Here's a familiar scenario. Meet John and Harold.

John, a vaccination opponent (not AnimlNitr8) visits his 75 year old parents at their home. Mom and Dad had been vaccinated. Mom got influenza, dad did not. Mom got it from him. The vaccination opponent is fully aware of the dangers of influenza in the elderly. But John was feeling fine.

Unfortunately, John is infectious before the first symptoms appear. John gives Mom influenza.

So why didn't the vaccine work on Mom? Because Mom has a weaker immune system, which didn't respond to the vaccine. Mom ends up in hospital and is very sick, She does recover, but isn't the same afterward.

Harold has a strong immune system. He is immunized from influenza through vaccination. Harold .(not AnimlNitr8) visits his 75 year old parents at their home. Mom and Dad had been vaccinated.. But only Dad is protected. Harold has a nice visit. Mom and dad are fine.
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ddanimal
01:10 AM on 03/08/2011
Also, the flu vaccine shot is hazardous to the fetus carried by pregnant women. pregnant women should NEVER get the flu shot.

See this paper:

http://eands.caltech.edu/articles/LXIX3/patterson.pdf
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Sheldon101
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02:42 PM on 03/08/2011
Wrong
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Influenza is dangerous to newborns and they are too young to be vaccinated.

How to protect them? By having everyone who comes into contact be vaccinated. Even better, vaccinate in pregnancy. That protects the mother from influenza. As recent studies have shown, the mother passes on her immunity to the baby for a few months.

Influenza Immunization in Pregnancy — Antibody Responses in Mothers and Infants
"These observations suggest that maternal immunization results in the presences of antibody titers against influenza A vaccine subtypes in a high proportion of mothers and their newborns. Our 6-month follow-up data show that passively acquired protective levels of serum antibody for A subtypes may be significantly greater in vaccinees than in controls up to 20 weeks of age."

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc0912599
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ddanimal
03:26 PM on 03/08/2011
Ignored in this paper, and your response, is acknowledgement of the proven dangers of immune activation to the fetus. The fetal brain is damaged by exposure to immune activation. This is proven.

A vaccine creates the damaging immune activation, just like an infection. A vaccine will CAUSE the same damage that an infection does. The vaccine does not prevent it.

If you had read the paper I posted, you would understand this.
10:33 PM on 03/07/2011
flu: public health begins with you...don't get the flu shot, don't cough and sneeze all over the place, don't cough and sneeze into your hands and then touch everything, stay home if you have the flu, eat right and make sure you get enough vitamin d and you probably won't get the flu. thanks for playing.
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healthanalyst
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05:32 PM on 03/07/2011
Thing is the US is turning into a bunch of navel gazers who only care about themselves, we're losing the idea of a 'common good'.
10:37 PM on 03/07/2011
i've never gotten a flu shot and i've never had a problem with the flu...because i eat right and make sure i get enough vitamin d. i will NEVER get a flu shot. if i ever get a "bug" it only ever lasts a day. i can't even remember the last time i've had a cold. maybe the sickly people should stay at home during flu season instead of insisting that everyone else shoot up with toxins for "the common good."
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Doybia
11:04 PM on 03/07/2011
Let's see now--does caring about the common good include something besides vaccines? How about eating right, getting enough exercise and enough sleep? Obeying traffic laws? Paying a fair share of taxes?

There are a lot of other ways to support a healthy common life besides accepting pharmaceutical injections. It is all in the framing :)
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healthanalyst
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12:52 AM on 03/08/2011
Thing is you can do that and still be a menace to infants and the elderly who are really susceptible to getting influenza, developing complications and dying. Which is why you vaccinate.
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04:04 PM on 03/07/2011
Well I didn't get a flu shot and I have had a horrible flu that is now entering it's fourth week. I regret not getting my shot!
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ljkcan
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10:21 PM on 03/07/2011
I have to take a flu shot due to my suppressed immune system. The women who work in our store got the flu and now both my husband and I are sick. This sudden warm weather does not help the germs come out. Yesterday it got like winter again.

I hope you get better soon.
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ddanimal
01:08 AM on 03/08/2011
Get your vitamin D level checked. Better yet, if you have had little sun and have not been taking vitamin D, then take 150,000 units as a single dose.
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05:37 PM on 03/08/2011
I take 3000 IU of vitamin D daily, still have a bad flu and so does my entire family two of which are national athletes! None of us got the shot except my 85 year old mother who lives with us, we are very lucky that she has not caught it from us, she has COPD! I will never be so stupid and selfish again!
01:29 PM on 03/07/2011
The pharma industry would like you to believe that flu vaccinations are the only way to protect yourself against the flu this winter. A recent double blind placebo controlled experiment showed that Vitamin D supplementation protected users against influenza better than a flu vaccine. Do the research yourself, Vitamin D protects against colds and flu better than vaccinations. My friends, coworkers and family are all converts and we take between 2000-7000IU a day during the winter months. Out of the 12 of us that take vitamin D, none were sick this winter even though many of our spouses were. http://tinyurl.com/4p68xhs
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Sheldon101
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03:57 PM on 03/07/2011
Except that this isn't what the study said at all.
10:40 PM on 03/07/2011
i'd much rather take vitamin d than take a toxic shot that isn't even guaranteed to have the "correct strain" of the flu. i've NEVER had a flu shot and i NEVER will take one. i've also never had a problem with the flu. the whole reason why the winter is "flu season" is because people don't get enough sun...aka VITAMIN D.
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ddanimal
03:30 PM on 03/08/2011
Well the evidence for Vitamin D is better than the evidence for flu vaccines. You cannot even provide a randomized controlled trial of the flu vaccine. You are clueless Sheldon.

Randomized trial of vitamin D supplementation to prevent seasonal influenza A in schoolchildren1,2,3

Objective: We investigated the effect of vitamin D supplements on the incidence of seasonal influenza A in schoolchildren.

Design: From December 2008 through March 2009, we conducted a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial comparing vitamin D3 supplements (1200 IU/d) with placebo in schoolchildren. The primary outcome was the incidence of influenza A, diagnosed with influenza antigen testing with a nasopharyngeal swab specimen.

Results: Influenza A occurred in 18 of 167 (10.8%) children in the vitamin D3 group compared with 31 of 167 (18.6%) children in the placebo group [relative risk (RR), 0.58; 95% CI: 0.34, 0.99; P = 0.04]. The reduction in influenza A was more prominent in children who had not been taking other vitamin D supplements (RR: 0.36; 95% CI: 0.17, 0.79; P = 0.006) and who started nursery school after age 3 y (RR: 0.36; 95% CI: 0.17, 0.78; P = 0.005). In children with a previous diagnosis of asthma, asthma attacks as a secondary outcome occurred in 2 children receiving vitamin D3 compared with 12 children receiving placebo (RR: 0.17; 95% CI: 0.04, 0.73; P = 0.006).
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08:01 PM on 03/07/2011
Thanks for the link!
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11:15 AM on 03/07/2011
The article fails to address why we have selected only a few virus strains to vaccinate against, meanwhile there are hundreds of viruses, and the vaccine being given will not protect against those.
Better to increase overall health and resistance and trust in the body's innate defenses.
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04:05 PM on 03/07/2011
Antigenic Similarity
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IWhat matters is whether the strains are antigenically similar enough that the vaccine works. This years there is a 100% match for the H1N1 and the new H3N2 and a very good magch for influenza B.

From Canada:
"Antigenic Characterization
Between September 1 and March 3, 2011, the National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) has antigenically characterized 352 influenza viruses that were received from provincial laboratories: 180 A/H3N2 from .... 74 pandemic H1N1 2009 from ... and 98 B viruses from BC, AB, SK, ON, QC & NB. All 180 influenza A/H3N2 viruses characterized were antigenically related to A/Perth/16/2009, which is the influenza A/H3N2 component recommended for the 2010-11 influenza vaccine. The 74 pandemic H1N1 2009 viruses characterized were antigenically related to the pandemic vaccine virus A/California/7/2009, which is the recommended H1N1 component for the 2010-11 influenza vaccine. Of the 98 influenza B viruses characterized, 91 were antigenically related to B/Brisbane/60/08 (Victoria lineage), which is the recommended influenza B component for the 2010-11 influenza vaccine. Four viruses tested showed reduced titer with antisera produced against B/Brisbane/60/08. Seven influenza B viruses were characterized as B/Wisconsin/01/2010-like, which belongs to the Yamagata lineage. B/Wisconsin/01/2010-like viruses are antigenically and genetically different from the previous Yamagata lineage vaccine strain B/Florida/04/2006."
http://origin.phac-aspc.gc.ca/fluwatch/10-11/w08_11/index-eng.php
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healthanalyst
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05:34 PM on 03/07/2011
WHO has sentinels around the world that look at what the most probably virus will be the next flu season. they're pretty good at it, the most common get into the vaccine. If some other strain pops up, like bird flu, its a real mess to try to deal with it quickly.
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Doybia
11:05 PM on 03/07/2011
And all of the other influenza like illnesses for which there are no vaccines?
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Dyson
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08:24 PM on 03/08/2011
Why people expect influenza vaccines should prevent infections with other viruses that cause vaguely similar symptoms is quite beyond me.

"Hey, this ebola virus vaccine is garbage! It didn't stop me from catching the common cold!"
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Kristin Talbott
One should always be a little improbable.
10:42 AM on 03/07/2011
I don't do flu shots, and the last time I had the flu was in approximately 1996. It was a week of hell, another week of recovery, but on the other side I felt a lot stronger for it. In other words, going through that ultimately seemed like more of a good thing than a bad thing.
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Sheldon101
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04:09 PM on 03/07/2011
I'm trying to understand how you felt a lot stronger for having the flu.

Could you lift more weights?
Could you run faster?
Please explain the physical benefits of having influenza.
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Kristin Talbott
One should always be a little improbable.
04:51 PM on 03/07/2011
First of all, I wasn't speaking in terms of physical benefits, at least not solely, which is why I did not use the word physical. The biggest benefit was the same benefit you get from successfully making it through any crisis - you emerge having learned something about just how strong you are. There's also a mental health benefit that comes from being forced to the sidelines for a couple of weeks - when you don't have choice but to stop, you tend to not beat yourself up about the fact that you're not doing anything. Gives you lots of time for reflection, especially during the recovery phase.

But there were certainly physical benefits as well. The first was simply feeling cleansed, right down to the cellular level. It was like my body, in expelling the flu, had also expelled every single toxin in my body. The second was the workout my immune system got; I really do think that we benefit from going through on occasional bout of sickness. And as I said, I haven't gotten the flu since.
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OldTart
Let it begin with me...
10:06 AM on 03/07/2011
The science of flu virus does not support this, but the drug companies do. I'll take my chances on my immune system, and do everything to support and nourish it.
12:03 PM on 03/07/2011
As a scientist that has spent the last 15 years studying influenza viruses, vaccines, and therapeutics to combat them, I can tell you that you are 100% incorrect. And, I am not funded by any company that sells vaccines. You paid for my work with your taxes via the National Institutes of Health, and all the data are readily available in published form on www.pubmed.gov.
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OldTart
Let it begin with me...
01:03 PM on 03/07/2011
As a chemist myself and having studied more widely than you can imagine, I beg to differ.
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08:59 PM on 03/07/2011
I've watched family members become significantly ill following the influenza vaccination, and I have a few questions/personal concerns: Has any research been performed regarding flu vaccine safety, particularly in patients with autoimmune family history/conditions? Do any safety studies particularly look at the possible long-term adverse effects of thimerosal injection? Do any studies look at the whether uneven dosing of thimerosal occurs, even when the administration instructions are followed? Thanks in advance.
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farmilyman
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10:00 AM on 03/07/2011
“Vaccines: Prevention or Poison?

http://www­.vaccinati­oncouncil.­org/2010/1­2/15/vacci­nes-preven­tion-or-po­ison/”

For people that would like to make an informed decision.
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Sheldon101
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11:12 AM on 03/07/2011
Learn the Basics First
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If you want to learn about vaccines, then DO NOT first go to web sites of vaccination opponents. I think they are wrong. More importantly, for those starting out, they don't explain the basics.

First learn the basics at web sites such as www.cdc.gov or www.phac.gc.ca. Wikipedia is pretty good. THEN take a look at the web sites of those who oppose vaccination.
10:46 PM on 03/07/2011
THE CDC?!? HAHAHAHA!!! the cdc can't get it right either! the cdc website info contradicts info on vaccine package inserts from the vaccine manufacturers, particularly the precautions and contraindications sections!
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farmilyman
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08:36 AM on 03/08/2011
I already know the basics like you, but I've dug a little deeper. It's not what they claim it to be. It's very sinister what they are doing.
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sabelmouse
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11:58 AM on 03/07/2011
links not working.
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farmilyman
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08:37 AM on 03/08/2011
Just search around on this sit. It's very informative.

www­­.vaccinat­i­oncounci­l.­org
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Dyson
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03:22 PM on 03/09/2011
Misinformative, more like.
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09:34 AM on 03/07/2011
you can take the sweater off again though .
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StephenJK
All your consciousness are belong to us
10:22 AM on 03/07/2011
HAHAH Nice 1 Sabel. Thanks, I will pass on the heavy metal injections. These two "MDs", I just don't know about them. They sound authoritative. But, should we listen to them? I say, "absolutely......NOOOOOOOT!".
11:57 AM on 03/07/2011
There are no "heavy metals" in the current influenza vaccines. The thimerasol you are worried about is no longer used.
09:26 AM on 03/07/2011
Funny how the heath page has two top stories -- one advocating flu shots, and one saying it does nothing but build revenue for big pharma. I looked up "the National Foundation for Infectious Disease" (the ones who advocate flu shots) and discovered that many of their Board of Trustees are from major drug companies, and their stated policies indicate that you can avoid conflict of interest appearances by severing or altering your relationship to the companies that manufacture drugs. We really must be constantly vigilant --
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CintiBlue
10:07 AM on 03/07/2011
I started to read about this stuff 6 or 7 years ago and found intrigue and shenanigans worthy of any "can't put it down" book.
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StephenJK
All your consciousness are belong to us
10:37 AM on 03/07/2011
Yeah, good get....notice how one article has a lot of science and trial info behind it and (i'm not mentioning which article...but) the other article has a lot of "authoritative opinion".

LOL OK, I'll mention it. I felt like a kid having an "authoritative" finger waggin in my face and telling me, "you better do it, or else!" Or else what? They going to fire me or exile me to Madagascar?
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PrairieGayCompanion
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09:24 AM on 03/07/2011
Great. HP has two competing stories from MD's on flu shots.
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11:12 AM on 03/07/2011
Yeah, we wouldn't want to make up our own minds by having both sides presented.
Would you prefer just one point of view on this?
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PrairieGayCompanion
To improve is to change
01:57 PM on 03/07/2011
Unlikely I would make a decision based on anything I read in the pop-health section of HP/AOL.