EU report: Georgian attack started war with Russia

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RAF CASERT and DOUGLAS BIRCH | 09/30/09 03:55 PM | AP

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BRUSSELS — Georgia and Russia both claimed to find vindication in Wednesday's independent report on the causes of their 2008 war, but neither seemed likely to be able to take the moral high ground because of its blunt judgments.

The EU-sponsored report supports Russia's insistence that Georgia launched the short but intense war with an indiscriminate rocket and artillery barrage on the separatist capital of South Ossetia – an act the commission said was not justifiable under international law.

Georgia can find support for its claim that Russia taunted and provoked it for years before the assault, then responded with disproportionate force, sending armored vehicles deep into undisputed Georgian territory.

Russia's retaliation went "far beyond the reasonable limits of defense," the report said, rejecting claims the country was trying to prevent genocide with its invasion of its southern neighbor, a former Soviet nation with fervent hopes of joining the EU and NATO.

The beginnings of the August 2008 war had been murky, its aftermath contentious.

It ended in less than a week with Russia crushing Georgia's army and driving its troops out of the separatist Georgian region of South Ossetia and away from the borders of another such region, Abkhazia.

Since then, Russia has recognized both regions as independent countries. But among U.N.-member countries, only Nicaragua and Venezuela have followed suit. Russia continues to keep thousands of troops in the regions, which have blocked EU monitors from operating there.

The findings of the independent commission, led by Swiss diplomat Heidi Tagliavini and released Wednesday in Brussels, were based on the work of 30 European military, legal and history experts. Its conclusions are critical to the hopes of both Russia and Georgia.

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Overall, Russia seems to have benefited more than Georgia from the report, if only because in the aftermath of the fighting Georgia was viewed in the West as the underdog, a victim of naked aggression.

Russia's EU envoy Vladimir Chizhov said in a statement Wednesday the commission had provided "an unequivocal answer to the main question of 'Who started the war?'" He said the findings should encourage "those leaders who have been hesitant" to blame Georgia to reconsider.

But he rejected the notion that Russia responded with disproportionate force. "Russia's reaction was quite proportional, swift and to the point," he said.

The Russian foreign ministry said in its own statement Wednesday that the Tagliavini commission report "clearly points at the countries which armed and trained the Georgian army," a thinly veiled criticism of Ukraine and, especially, the United States.

Those aspects of the report critical of the Kremlin are not likely to weaken Russia's conviction that it acted completely within its rights. Instead, they seem likely to provoke more complaints from Moscow that the West is biased against Russia and applies a double-standard to its conduct.

Whether the Kremlin admits it or not, it cares about Western public opinion. Russia is just starting to emerge from a deep recession and is desperate for Western investment.

In part to woo investors, the country is seeking to repair ties with the U.S. and especially some of its biggest trading partners, the Netherlands, Germany and other members of the European Union. It is also seeking to persuade NATO to halt its eastward expansion.

"It seems the impact of the report could be a positive development for Russia in its relations with EU and NATO," said Dr. Lt. Col. Marcel de Haas, a senior political military analyst at The Hague-based Clingendael Institute of International Relations.

"Of course, issues remain: Both NATO and the EU continue to tell Moscow it needs to get its troops out" of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, de Haas said. "But in the sense that Russia is coming out of this looking reasonably good, it can point toward an improvement in relations."

Not long after the report's release, the Kremlin said it was ready to fully restore cooperation with NATO that was suspended in after the war.

President Dmitry Medvedev's spokeswoman Nataliya Timakova said a planned visit to Moscow by NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen in December should demonstrate that the alliance is also ready to resume ties.

And Russia may take comfort from the likelihood that the Tagliavini commission's criticism of Georgia's military actions will weaken that country's bid for NATO membership.

"It seems to be a bit of a setback for an improvement of relations between Georgia and the West," said de Haas of the Clingendael Institute. "In a sense, this strengthens the impression that for a very long time Georgia could be very unlikely to become a NATO member."

Both Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin have tried to portray Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili as a bumptious, erratic figure whom the West should abandon. Russian officials are likely to claim the report offers evidence of this.

For Georgia, the stakes if anything are higher than for Russia. Had Saakashvili's government shouldered all the blame, that would have made it much harder for the U.S. and some of its European allies to continue their massive aid programs – which in the case of the U.S. includes military aid.

As it is, Saakashvili seems likely to use the report to continue to portray Georgia as a reliable friend of the West threatened by an aggressive and unpredictable Russia.

Salome Samadashvili, Georgia's ambassador to the EU, tried Wednesday to downplay the significance of a key finding: The question of who fired first on Aug. 7, 2008, she said, was meaningless outside the context of nearly two decades of Russian economic and military support for the separatist-controlled Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

The report did bolster several of Georgia's key allegations, including that, during the fighting, Russian troops stood by while South Ossetian militias burned and looted ethnic Georgian villages inside the breakaway province.

"There was evidence of systematic looting and destruction of ethnic Georgians villages in South Ossetia," the report said. "Consequently, several elements suggest the conclusion that ethnic cleansing was indeed practiced."

As the work of an independent European mission, the report is likely to be viewed by much of the world as an authoritative account of the war, no matter what other allegations Russia or Georgia make in the coming months.

The EU countries said in a statement they hoped the report "can contribute toward a better understanding of the origins and the course of last year's conflict."

The EU mandated the report last year to investigate the "causes and roots" of the conflict, but not make any final determination of guilt that could be used for compensation claims.

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Associated Press writers Jim Heintz and Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow, Misha Dzhindzhikhashvili in Tbilisi, Desmond Butler in Washington and Robert Wielaard in Brussels contributed to this story.

(This version CORRECTS 5th graf to say 'August' sted 'July'.)

BRUSSELS — Georgia and Russia both claimed to find vindication in Wednesday's independent report on the causes of their 2008 war, but neither seemed likely to be able to take the moral high grou...
BRUSSELS — Georgia and Russia both claimed to find vindication in Wednesday's independent report on the causes of their 2008 war, but neither seemed likely to be able to take the moral high grou...
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- Donatella I'm a Fan of Donatella 25 fans permalink

The real provocation was by the U.S. It is amazing that we think there will be no consequences when we give hundreds of millions of dollars in military weapons and supplies and send Israeli military trainers to a country on Russia’s border. Combine the military build-up with a volatile politician like Mikhail Saakashvili and no good can come from it.

It was the staging of U.S. missiles in Turkey that provoked the Russians to put missiles in Cuba. What wasn’t well publicized at the end of the crisis was that we agreed to remove our missiles from Turkey.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 10/01/2009
- Wozzeck I'm a Fan of Wozzeck 22 fans permalink
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Are we all Georgians now still ? Or did Georgia fall behind on its PR payments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 10/01/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

I think some are South Carolinians now that we have an African American President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 10/01/2009
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Right , McCain is still Georgian to the core. Russia over reacted?

Israel because of the "kidnapping"of one(1) (capture) of their soldiers destroyed an entire country( Lebanon) over a period of 3 months.

Why is it that no American politician felt that Israel overreacted? Hmmmm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 10/01/2009
- rtb61 I'm a Fan of rtb61 8 fans permalink

Well the Russians did push quite far into Georgia, in order to capture the base from where the attack was launched so as to obtain evidence of US and Israeli involvement in the use of mercenaries by the Georgian government. However the evidence was not there as the mercenaries were controlled out of the Ukraine, not by that government of course but by 'of balance sheet' Israeli and US private contractors, which of course was the driver for considerable consternation in the Ukraine government as a result of being pulled indirectly into the conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 10/01/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 284 fans permalink
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I'm hardly an expert on the Caucuses or Russia, but even I came up with the same assessment on my own. There was fault on both sides, but Saakashvili shouldn't have provided a pretext for the Bear in the first place. The first time I saw this guy interviewed on CNN he reminded me of Blagojevich (though that is an anachronistic comparison made in retrospect). I remember following this closely at the time and screaming at the TV every time McCain talked about self-determination (in regards to Georgia only, of course). To augment the infuriating one-sidedness of the US media, I watched some RT, and split the difference balancing each nation's bias. Lost in all of this though, sadly, were the Ossetians and Abkhazians themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 AM on 10/01/2009
- PSM42 I'm a Fan of PSM42 20 fans permalink
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H. P. USING TRAINED MONKEYS AS SUB-EDITORS?

"EU Report: Germany started war, Britain provoked and overreacte­d."

"EU Report: Japan started war, US provoked and overreacte­d."

"EU Report: Georgia Started War, Russia Provoked And Overreacte­d."

Strangely enough all three sound like rubbish. Just like the usual H. P. standards of journalism and accuracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 10/01/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 284 fans permalink
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HP does insert some wild headlines. But this time it actually did sum up the article. Your problem is with the AP. And as to your analogy, it is Georgia itself who has annexed a people who do not want to be ruled by Tblisi, just as Russia would like to reabsorb the whole territory of its past Soviet Republic. The Ossetians and Abkhazians want more autonomy, just as within Russia there are problems with Dagestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya, of course.

This isn't black and white.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 AM on 10/01/2009
- eweqo I'm a Fan of eweqo 20 fans permalink

The EU appeases russia. This will only embolden them to try to regain all the terrorities that they lost in the collapse. Bad move. Expect to see more agitation from russia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 09/30/2009
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Breathless Ignorance form a person incapable of finding Moscow on the map.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 10/01/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 54 fans permalink
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No appeasement. Seems to be a very accurate report. Georgia started the war, Russia went overboard on the reaction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 AM on 10/01/2009
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Bloggers had this figured out the same day, while the media was going round and round and round 24/7 with a certain has-been politician and his dippy mistress. Trying to distract us from what was going on? The MSM is complicit and lame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 09/30/2009
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The part that really got me -- like you, I was tracking it in live-time -- was seeing Obama come out the day after Georgia's unprovoked attack in a live news conference (he was then a candidate) to lecture Russia for her aggression. It was a total farce and the MSM played right along. Georgia was lucky they didn't get their clock completely wiped cleaned. Even more outrageous was that Georgia used the anti-civilian tactics of their Israeli trainers. One of McCain's chief advisers also was serving as lobbyist for Saakashvili's government, who took for granted that he had cart blanche. And we continue to support the Islamist Chechen rebels and fund the revolutions in Russia's former southern states all the while telling the American public that we are there fighting "the war on terrorism.­" Totally disgusting and it all continues under our new panderer of hope and change.

Shame on you, Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 AM on 10/01/2009
- newyorkid I'm a Fan of newyorkid 40 fans permalink
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exactly right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 10/02/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

When conducting foreign policy, it's a good idea to select one's allies very carefully.

What reasonable person would pick the current President of Georgia for an ally? Any guy from a small nation bordering on Russia who would deliberately provoke a war with Russia is not playing with a full deck. He may have a few more tiki lamps than Moammar but he's still way short of the required number for a luau.

When expanding military alliances it's generally believed to be a good idea to look at a map.

What thoughtful military strategist would invite a small geographically isolated country with serious disputes with a much larger neighboring one into a military alliance involving an obligation of collective defense?

Oh wait, now it's all clear to me.

The country making these wise choices is one well known for its faith-based foreign policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 09/30/2009
- eweqo I'm a Fan of eweqo 20 fans permalink

Talking about flaky allies, Georgia should have known obama wasn't going to help them out. For the huffers who obviously don't know history, russia placed large populations in all these countries that they conquered to help them better control the indigenous populations. This was their pretext for invading Georgia and they will use it again just as Germany did in WWII.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 09/30/2009
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Generally I try to argue with ignoranuses but some ( ewego) need to be placed in their proper place at the bottom of the food chain.
Dufuz, Georgia does not have a large Russian population despite centuries of Russian control,
Neither does Ossetia, Pick up a basic history text.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 10/01/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 54 fans permalink
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Might be nice to do some research before you start talking.

The USSR never moved a great number of Russians to Georgia ro Ossetia. I don't think they ever amounted to more than 2 or 3 percent, and even less now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 AM on 10/01/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 284 fans permalink
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The breathtaking ignorance in that statement. So, 3% is a large population, eh? And, you completely ignore the Ossetians who make up roughly two-thirds. My god, you're too lazy to even consult Wikipedia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 AM on 10/01/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

I think you may be having a problem using a calendar so some helpful hints and a few facts.

First the facts:
(1) The Russian Georgian war took place in August 2008.
(2) President Obama was elected in November 2008 and inaugurated in January 2009.

Now the bits about the calendar.

(1) August comes before November each and every year without exception.

(2) While it might seem that January 2009 came before August 2008, I can assure you it did not. The 2009 indicates that it occurred one year after 2008. Also it is common practice that inaugurations occur after elections. So like George Smiley I have two proofs.

Now the logical conclusion:

It was Former President Pan, Dick Cheney, and Honest John McCrayz who did not go to Saaks' aid after stoking his meglomania and delusions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 10/01/2009
- roberto8ag I'm a Fan of roberto8ag 12 fans permalink
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Obama, Clinton, and McCain were wrong about the conflict..­. * Ron Paul was right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJCrUkI9ip0&feature=PlayList&p=A9DA46E28EF1518F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32


* The elephant in the room

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 09/30/2009
- mamababa I'm a Fan of mamababa 5 fans permalink

Yeah - Too bad Americans had neither the brains nor the guts to elect someone like him. Instead, one sees the typically juvenile response of running away from bad tasting medicine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 10/01/2009

Noam Chomsky is also in complete agreement with Ron about this issue:

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/200809--2.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 10/01/2009
- roberto8ag I'm a Fan of roberto8ag 12 fans permalink
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"Noam Chomsky is also in complete agreement with Ron about this issue:"

I should read Chomsky more often....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 10/01/2009
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Uh... duh! We all knew this when it was going on. Our right wing spinned the story to make Russia the aggressor. Georgia started it, and Russia finished it. If Mexico tried to retake Texas, Americans would throw everything at them. Why would we expect other countries to act any different? Russia isn't innocent, but is anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 09/30/2009
- hardrain77 I'm a Fan of hardrain77 17 fans permalink
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We all knew this the same day as the attack, literally. What doesn't get mentioned much is the belief that U.S. and Israeli special forces were training the Georgians.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3580136,00.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 09/30/2009

Those who read independent news knew this - those who get their news far more casually were fed a line about Russia being the aggressor and leaving almost completely out any details about Georgia's unprovoked attack on helpless civilians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 09/30/2009
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We already knew this, and we also knew the timing was chosen to "help" McCain in the campaign. Epic failure, of course.
The important thing now is, what are you going to do about Shakaasvili?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 09/30/2009
- openhand I'm a Fan of openhand 34 fans permalink
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Any leader found guilty of provoking a war should be charged with mass murder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 09/30/2009
- LMPE I'm a Fan of LMPE 66 fans permalink

I knew this already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 09/30/2009
- lainey I'm a Fan of lainey 44 fans permalink

Me too. I think that anyone really thinking, and not just following the masses, saw it too. It is important to realize that just because one nation is stronger in military, does not mean that they provoke war. Also, Georgian attacks were initially very strong and did great damage to mind, body and spirit of the people. Too often we fail to look beyond the deaths (which are beyond horrible), to see the destruction that war has on human beings mental health and well-being, which is beyond horrible as well. May we all learn to come to a better solution than war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 09/30/2009

It's important to have a report like this for the masses, those who only read the stories that painted Russia as the aggressor, to maybe learn the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 09/30/2009
- Bcasey11 I'm a Fan of Bcasey11 13 fans permalink
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thats boloney, Russia was taking after America with a preemptive war. Never will I advocate violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 09/30/2009

Georgia attacked first - and attacked unprovoked. The bombed sleeping civilians.

Then the bully found out that the weakling they were picking on had a bigger friend who was willing to step in. Georgia thought the Olympics would provide them cover to do their murder, their massacre, and no one would stop them.

They were so very wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 09/30/2009
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Again, the childish " disproportionate response" claim.
Well, let's see.
Georgia attacked the capital of Ossetia with Grad missles, heavy artillery and tank attacks smashing through the city and taking out many buildings and civilians.
Well, to be "proportionate" Russians should''ve done the same to the capital of Georgia,Tbilisi.

Lucky for Georgians, Russians were nice enough NOT to be proportionate.
LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 09/30/2009
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