Zondra Hughes

Zondra Hughes

Posted: July 29, 2010 10:32 AM

Cathy Hughes Strikes Back on Paying Artists for Radio Plays: "Dionne Warwick Is a Lobbyist"

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Alas, the economic fallout from a digital revolution that placed purchasing power into music consumers' hands, and, conversely, fueled a piracy bonanza, has come full circle: the record labels want AM/FM radio to belly-up for those beats.

This notion of AM/FM radio stations paying for music is a complete reversal of how the industry has always worked. The old business model was this: The artist is commissioned to create music for the record label. The record label delivers the music to the radio stations, requesting airplay. The radio station plays the music, earning its revenue from a stream of advertisers that market to its niche listening audience; ratings determine how large that listening audience is, and how much money the stations can charge for advertising.

As it stands now, Internet and satellite radio make payments to SoundExchange, a non-profit organization set up to collect performance royalties, and funnel that money to record labels and artists, if the music rights can be identified. With the introduction of H.R. 848, The Performance Rights Act, the pressure is on for AM/FM radio to pay to play songs as well.

The lovely Dionne Warwick says Cathy Hughes needs to stop ripping off black artists and pay up. (By the way, if the bill passes, Hughes will have to fork over about $14 million a year.)


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In our phone interview for N'Digo, the lovely Cathy Hughes, Founder and Chairperson of Radio One, says oh, hell-to-the-nawl. Radio shouldn't pay up. And Dionne Warwick is raising hell because she's on the record labels' payroll:

You wouldn't even know Dionne Warwick existed if we did not play her. Dionne hasn't had a record in thirty years. You wouldn't even know she was alive. She's raising so much hell, talking about me like a dog--I've paid her rent. I've helped her out, she's been in trouble several times.

Lady Hughes also questions the legitimacy of Lady Warwick's role as an 'artist/activist' on the issue.

But let me say this, I ain't mad at her, and the reason why is because the record industry, SoundExchange and musicFIRST--according to a source at the White House--they have already spent about $28 million to get this legislation passed. Dionne and them are on the payroll. They are getting like, $200,000-300,000 paychecks, flying on corporate jets, being put up in suites at the hotel. They are getting paid, they are professional lobbyists on this issue.


They're saying, "Oh, I'm an artist," and that is true, but you're also getting a paycheck from the record companies to come out here and say this shit. I'm not mad because this girl doesn't have any other way to make this type of money, other than doing this. So I understand what's causing this and she ain't the problem.

Debate aside, the future of black radio is at stake, industry folks say.
There are more than 11,400 commercial radio stations in America; of those, 240 are black-owned; of the 240 black-owned stations, 54 of them are Radio One properties.

Passing H.R. 848, The Performance Rights Act, into law could very well signal the end of black-owned radio in several markets. David Honig, executive director of the Minority Media and Telecommunications Council, has warned that the bill would put "at least a third" of minority stations out of business.

What do you think? Should radio pay the record labels to play music?

 

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leo21   05:31 AM on 8/02/2010
I'm sorry, but I am sick of the music industry running to Congress everytime their old business model breaks down and they can't adapt to new technology and revenue streams. I can see both sides but in this case, I can't understand why their has to be a law. To me, playing a song on the radio is the same as running a commercial on TV so I can completely understand why radio doesn't want to pay. If radio changes, where do artists expect people to hear their stuff. Alot of us still don't rely on iTunes to hear new music.
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Zondra Hughes   02:30 PM on 8/02/2010
Leo 21,
I have always viewed radio in that way as well, that airing a song is a commercial for that song. But I'm not in the music industry, so I don't know all the nuts and bolts of how the system is supposed to work for everyone involved.
THATSWHATUGET   02:18 PM on 7/30/2010
It's all about CONTENT!

The ARTISTS produce the CONTENT, and should be compensated for it from ANY medium that USES that CONTENT to attract, draw or leverage the CONTENT to earn revenue,

Radio stations want to keep receiving something for nothing on the premise that they are providing the artists exposure.

If I were Kathy Hughes, I would fight to maintain the free inputs that drive my profits, too! That game is PLAYED.

Labels and Radio are two sides of the same coin, and artists most-times lose which ever side the coin comes down on.
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Zondra Hughes   02:32 PM on 8/02/2010
Thatswhatuget,

How do you propose a better way to support artists? I know of too many stories of great musicians who live as starving artists.
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cryptozoologist   12:14 PM on 7/30/2010
there is a very simple solution to this dilemma.

1. artists (like ms warwick) who choose to not allow their music to be played unless radio pays them should have that option.

2. artists who choose to allow their music to be played for free should have that option.

3. labels should be allowed to pay radio stations to play their music provided there is some sort of transparency.

this is the free market solution that does not hand any government granted monopolies to anyone.
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Zondra Hughes   02:34 PM on 8/02/2010
Cryptozoologist,
Great ideas...but, your point #3, the Labels want the RADIO STATIONS to pay them for music provided as it stands now. Do you think the labels would agree to pay the stations for play, if it is allowed?
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cryptozoologist   03:46 PM on 8/03/2010
of course, everybody wants everybody else to pay them. there is quite a history of labels paying radio stations to play their music. look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola
by allowing any party to pay any other party the market sorts things out.

maybe radio stations will decide they must pay ms warwick et al in order to maintain listeners. maybe the labels will have to pay the radio stations to get their stuff played. economic forces will efficiently determine the winner in this tug of war. maybe (probably) independent radio stations that are barely profitable will actively seek out the coolest music they can get for free and thus promote up and coming innovators. it would be a brave new world, and one much preferable to any one side be compelled to pay the other in order to remain within the law.
rjmiller   09:57 AM on 7/30/2010
There certainly has to be parity between internet and traditional radio (the performance fees got through on internet radio because no internet radio companies had any money to lobby against it at the time). However, as it is, major labels pay out millions of dollars per year to radio stations to get their new artists on the air. So really, this would just be redirecting a small percentage of payola revenue to performers.
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Zondra Hughes   02:35 PM on 8/02/2010
I see.... hmmm.
tompoe   11:50 AM on 7/29/2010
Artists want to be paid any time they perform. Labels want to control the revenues. In the old days, when radio and tv ruled our airwaves (yes, you and I own the airwaves), the radio and tv were treated as a medium to market artists' works, not to generate revenues.

Today, the Internet, which was designed exclusively for telecommunications, allows individuals to create their own personal radio and tv stations, if-you-will. Artists that want to be viewed or listened to, or read, could utilize the Internet to communicate with their potential audience, bypassing the corporations that controlled radio and tv.

So, why should radio and tv and the record labels want to take away the Internet, and stop people from using our airwaves that we own in the way we want? Why wouldn't they simply adapt old strategies, and celebrate the fact they can reach each one of us, who own our individual radio and tv stations? Sounds like Dionne's on the wrong side of history.
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Zondra Hughes   02:38 PM on 8/02/2010
Tompoe,
GREAT insight.
tompoe   04:45 PM on 8/02/2010
There's a lot of stories out there. Have you come across the musician that used the Internet to create a worldwide fan club? This musician heard from one of his fans in some east European nation that there was serious copyright infringement of his works. The musician rallied the fans in that country to report the infringement, and they nailed the guy two ways to Sunday. I suppose that's exactly why the record labels hate the Internet.

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