11/07/2013 04:12 pm ET Updated Nov 07, 2013

Shonda Rhimes: I Know How 'Scandal' Ends


Shonda Rhimes already has the "Scandal" ending in mind. The TV mogul told NPR she knows how the adventures of Olivia Pope (Kerry Washington) and President Fitzgerald Grant (Tony Goldwyn) will end ... but isn't saying when they will wrap up.

While speaking about the end of "Grey's Anatomy," which Rhimes has said she's planned and then had to plan again because the show keeps going and she's still interested in the characters, the writer/producer said "Scandal" is a different kind of show and has a set expiration.

"It is very political," Rhimes said of "Scandal." "The political landscape on the outside, in the real world, will change -- possibly before Scandal is over. But I feel like there is a finite amount of 'Scandal' to be told. So I know what the end of 'Scandal' will be, and I feel really good about that. And I can see where the end point is. And I don't think I'm going to change that ... I know how long I think it will be. But we'll see."

Rhimes previously told The Hollywood Reporter that she always had an endgame in mind for "Grey's Anatomy."
"[W]e've passed the time in which that ending would happen. I had another final scene in mind, and I wrote it into an episode because I thought we were too far past when that could happen," she said. "I've done that five times with this show. This show does not seem to end. [Laughs.] I stopped trying to think about what the last moment of the show is going to be because we reinvent it at the beginning of every season, and it's a different show each season."

Head over to NPR for more from Rhimes.

"Scandal" airs Thursdays, 10 p.m. EST on ABC.

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