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08/14/2018 02:07 pm ET

Penn Jillette Says He Heard Donald Trump Say 'Racially Insensitive Things'

The magician said every 10 minutes with Trump on "The Celebrity Apprentice" was like "fingernails on chalkboard.”

Magician Penn Jillette said he heard Donald Trump say “racially insensitive things” on the set of “The Celebrity Apprentice” that he guessed were caught on tape.

Jillette, who appeared on the show in 2012, told Vulture he believes “Celebrity Apprentice” producer Mark Burnett would have captured outtakes of Trump, then a star of the reality TV series.  

“He would say racially insensitive things that made me uncomfortable,” Jillette said of Trump. “I don’t think he ever said anything in that room like ‘African-Americans are inferior’ or anything about rape or grabbing women, but of those two hours every other day in a room with him, every 10 minutes was fingernails on chalkboard.”

Jillette said Trump would ask male cast members “if he’d rather have sex with this woman or that woman,” for example.

The possibility that Trump was recorded making racist remarks during production of “The Apprentice” and “The Celebrity Apprentice” was freshly stoked this week by former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman. Manigault Newman, promoting her tell-all book, called Trump a racist and said she heard a recording of him using a slur on the set. 

Trump has viciously condemned Manigault Newman as “that dog” and “a crazed, crying lowlife.” He claimed there are no tapes of him using a racial slur during production of the reality TV series.

Jillette acknowledged he no longer recalls a lot of what went on when he was on the show six years ago. He said he can “emotionally tell you things that happened racially, sexually, and that showed stupidity and lack of compassion when I was in the room with Donald Trump.” 

But he added: “I would not feel comfortable talking about what I felt I saw in that room — because when I was on that show I was sleeping four to five hours a night.

“I was uncomfortable,” he said. “‘Stress’ is the wrong word, but I was not at my best.”  

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