04/16/2009 03:43 pm ET Updated Dec 06, 2017

Thom Hartmann speaks to Donald Trump

Donald Trump explains to Thom Hartmann why working people shouldn't be allowed to retire early and why he 's furious about paying taxes in New York. He also talks about his new book "Think Like a Champion: How to Succeed in Business and in Life."

Thom can be heard daily on his radio show 12pm - 3pm ET. Visit to stream live or find a station near you.