Circuit City Shopper Arrested For Refusing To Show Receipt

Consumerist   |   September 4, 2007 02:25 PM


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Michael Righi got in trouble this Saturday for refusing to voluntarily show his receipt when exiting a Ohio Circuit City. According to his account, the manager and security guard followed him into the parking lot and prevented the car door from being shut or the car from moving. When Michael called 911, the cop ended up arresting him for not providing his driver's license.

Under Ohio's "stop and identify" law, citizens are only required to give name, address, and date of birth.

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I thought people stopped shopping there after they admitted they fired everyone that made a decent hourly wage to hire cheap labor? My mistake...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 09/05/2007

I will say though...he was behind the wheel of the car...and HE did call the police...and the police did need to get to the bottom of the problem. It did all seem to stem from a customer refusing to show a receipt (duh...the whole reason you are given one) not an unreasonable request this day and age...then...again...refusing to show his drivers license...I see a pattern...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 09/05/2007
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They do this everywhere but my question would be what is it good for? Have thefts in stores decreased because of this exit checking?
I think it's another example of false paranoia.
But it really is an invasion of privacy and is especially annoying when you are the only customer and they can see you checking out yet want to look at your receipt.
One time at Costco the exit checker found I was double charged for something so it can work both ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 09/05/2007

Haven't gone to Circuit City since they fired all their competent (made more money cause they knew their product) help and made them reapply for their jobs at a lower wage. It's run by scum management and deserves to go away!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 09/05/2007

didn't realize that. i've made my last purchase their.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 09/06/2007

Who Would even shop at CC.

They fire their employees because they have been loyal employees and get raises over time.
Now they make to much money so they have to go. Replaced by a bunch of inexperienced people because they will take a couple bucks less an hour.
This company is a bunch of scumbags and I will never shop their again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 09/05/2007

Screwing your customers, your employees and your stockholders is the capitalist way. Circuit City may be gone, but like Ken Lay, the management team will have multi-million dollar fortunes with that attitude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 09/05/2007
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Sad but true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 09/05/2007

Didn't they get rid of their senior and higher paid employees last year just to hire help at a lower pay???? Karma.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 09/05/2007

The manager and security guard belong in jail overnight, they should be made to apologize publicly to the customer, and to wash his car twice a month for the next year, and the customer should get his item for free. Even with all that, you won't catch me shopping at Circuit City - they are the worst I know as far as treating their customers. I'd get fired in an instant if I treated my customers that way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 09/04/2007

I predict in 5 years Circuit City will no longer exist. This behavior is an act of desperation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 09/04/2007
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This behavior is common place nearly everywhere here in New York.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 09/06/2007

"Being fired" is, I am quite sure, what =will= happen in this case.

Any corporation carries a certain amount of indemnification insurance, which is contingent upon proper policies and upon proper employee training with regards to those policies. But if your employee is playing Dick Tracy in the parking lot, and especially if he makes the national news, he's a hot-potato that must be dropped.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 09/05/2007

He couldn't be detained unless there was reasonable suspicion that he was a thief. And there was reasonable suspicion that he was a thief the moment he refused to show his receipt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 09/04/2007

Oh silly me, I thought this was a free country. Once I purchased a product I figured it was mine, and that I didn't have to prove it to anyone. Especially when no one suspects me of a crime. You got it backwards deckard70. There has to be some probable cause before your rights get infringed - constitution 101... I don't have to show anybody anything in this country. Goes for you too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 09/04/2007

It is a free country, and you were entirely free to act like a thief. Once you acted like one, the store was within its rights to detain you. Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from the consequences of that choice. You gave them probably cause - a guy walking out of a store with a box, seemingly without any proof it had been purchased. Your choice, your consequence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 09/05/2007

No, Deckard, he couldn't be detained ANYWAY. He couldn't be detained even if he was walking out the door with a stereo. You can video-tape him, grab the serial-number of the stolen goods, grab his license-plate number, but you cannot INTERDICT him. You are not a law-enforcement officer.

The moment he crosses the transom he has "allegedly" committed a crime, and you can call the police and report the crime as in-progress. But you can't detain him yourself for any reason. You may now be among the persons who will stand in court and accuse this person of having committed a crime of shoplifting, but you are not otherwise involved. Period.

"Failure to show a receipt" is not, itself, probable cause to conclude that the crime of shoplifting has in fact been committed; it is merely a violation of the company's policy. You can decide to call the police, if you want to: that's your decision. They can decide to stop the person briefly for questioning if they want to, and they can even decide to arrest him: that's their decision.

But until the judge brings that gavel down, that man is INNOCENT, and at no time have you become a law-enforcement officer.

I'm quite sure that Circuit City stresses this sort of thing in their loss-prevention training classes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 09/05/2007

They can make a citizen's arrest, same as any security guard could. Most employees are instructed never to do so, because the temptation is to restrain the person by touching them, which is almost always assault. But stores routinely detain people and are routinely found to be within their rights, as long as they've only detained them briefly and without force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 09/05/2007

Why not put the cash register right by the door, that way when you step away when your transaction's done, you're already outside the store, have a nice day and see ya later etc?

Store layout is important, that's why all those managers are supposed to get the Big Bucks, 'cause they're so smart in planning all that...of course if your company goal is to hire and employ an army of loss control specialists and act out a power trip on your customers...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 09/04/2007

I hope they continue through this story because one problem I have with this is they just give you the headline and that it and that suppose to explain everything...I see that this cause is going to get thrown out of court.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 09/04/2007

Try following the link on the original page and READING the original news article. Don't just click on "quick read" or "share/comment". GO read the original article by clicking on the great big dark type under the picture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 09/05/2007

Well, obviously a certain manager and employee need to be fired, and the remainder of the store managers taught a little bit about basic loss-prevention policy.

(1) No crime has been committed until that customer's foot crosses that front-door and he does not immediately say "oops!" and walk back in. He must walk over that threshhold WITH INTENT, and he'll be presumed-innocent until the judge brings that gavel down several weeks from now.

(2) No crime is ever committed by violating company policy. You can't block that man from walking through that door if he doesn't show you a receipt. You certainly cannot follow him, harrass him, or in any way attempt to detain him. If you do, HE now has cause for legal action against YOU, and quite-deservedly so.

(3) All(!) that you can do is to call the police and report a shoplifting. What they do, or don't do, from that point forward is entirely up to them.

(4) Let's face it: it's just merchandise. Cheap Chinese Crap in Boxes. All insured. This is Not something to die for if that man happens to have a shotgun in his car and the notion to use it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 09/04/2007

Papers!
Where are your Papers?

But i am an American in America!

Your under arrest!

Fascism exists in the USA and is the law of the land.


Got Rope?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 09/04/2007

NO DVD FOR YOU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 09/04/2007

You can steal soup if you wear a raincoat with rubber pockets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 09/05/2007

Why did he refuse to show a receipt? Did I miss something here? I am usually walking out of a Best Buy or other store still holding the receipt in my hand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 09/04/2007

It appears that he took offense at the "disrespect for customers" he sees in the "show your receipt" policy.

Probably one of those spoiled types who wants the price benefit associated with a high customer-to-staff ratio without being willing to pay the necessary cost of increased scrutiny of people going out the door.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 09/04/2007

Yeah, I do the same thing.

Apparently this guy is one of those crazies who just wait for something to whine about. He either didn't have a receipt and was caught stealing, or he ended up providing a hell of a lot more information than they originally asked for. Either way, he won't win any awards for being smart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 09/04/2007

Why didn't he submit to a full body cavity search
if he had no merchandise in his butt?

Why can't conservative understand the Fourth Amendment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 AM on 09/05/2007
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