Obama Criticizes NYT's Dowd Over Column

ABC News   |   September 7, 2007 11:57 PM


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For three years, Sen. Barack Obama has decried the Washington pundits who "like to slice and dice America," as he so memorably put it at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

On Friday, Obama, D-Ill., singled out one of those pundits by name: New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

"Maureen Dowd just this week, she said, 'Oh, he's talking about hope. He should be scratching Hillary,'" said Obama to loud laughter. "Well, I stand guilty as charged. I'm hopeful about America."

Obama was referring to a column Dowd wrote on Wednesday headlined, "The 46-Year-Old-Virgin." In it, she urged Obama to confront his chief rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., more forcefully.

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I can't believe that

1. Anyone still reads the NY Times; and

2. Anyone still reads Maureen Dowd.

Haven't you all learned your lesson after the Judith Miller debacle? Not to mention David Brooks and Tom Friedman.

It's not worth reading, guys. The people running the Times are blithering idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 09/10/2007

Dowd is a skank of the highest degree. The NYT should do the entire world a huge favor and fire her sorry ass. Then maybe she can join up with her buddy Coulter for some truly revolting lesbo action. Excuse me, I have to puke my guts out now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 09/09/2007

I know a lot of people love to hate Maureen Dowd. But, is she really off the mark on this one??

Her column on Obama makes this point (for those who haven't read it):

1. Obama has not attacked Hillary strongly enough. (TRUE)

2. He shouldn't be ceding the experience ground to her. (TRUE)

These points are both true. Obama definitely has not criticized strongly enough ON HER POSITIONS. Why doesn't he use the debates to ask her:

Why did you vote for the Iraq war? Why didn't you vote for the Levin amendment? Why should voters trust you to reform health care after you screwed it up once?

These are key questions, and he hasn't addressed them at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 09/09/2007

Misplaed metaphor. I was an officer in the Navy, and there are strict, stated protocols for enlisted-officer relationships. Dowdy is an opinion-shaper for the NY Times; I wouldn't dare put her in the same league as a private.

Your other analogies--"What if Obama was arguing with me"--are even more off the mark. I mean really, what are the odds that Obama would be perusing blogsites, and picking out individuals he disagreed with? Too farfetched.

Furthermore, please prove your claim that he's lost stature. If you can't prove it...Well, your point rings hollow. It's toothless....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 09/09/2007

I served in the army and there is a lot of difference between that and a political campaign. If you get down in the dirt with people of a lower status and only brings you down to their level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 09/09/2007

Obama getting into it with Maureen Dowd is as bad as Edwards getting into it with Ann Coulter. It is just a matter of stature and when a candidate has an argument with a media figure, the candidate loses stature and the media figure gains it.

Rookie mistake

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 09/08/2007

Who made you the arbiter for Political Candidate's Response Protocol to the Media? How specifically do they lose stature?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 09/09/2007

Sure, I will try to answer that. Generals don't argue with privates.

A candidate should be arguing with the other candidates, not with columnists. For example, If Obama were having an argument with you and it was being reported, would it not increase your stature?

And if Obama is arguing with you, or me for that matter, instead of the other candidates he is not gaining much. Probably a lower ranked member of his staff should be writing a press release responding to Dowd.

Dowd and Coulter are publicity hounds and they eat it up when the candidate responds to them personally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 09/09/2007

Yeah,that not directly confronting major media figures who are attacking you thing worked great for Gore in 2000, didn't it? CiCi Connally and Kit Seelye made up most of the lies about him, but it was Dowd's little green pen that moved them into Leno's monologue and the public's perception of him.

Dowd is ten times more dangerous to our chances of winning than Fox News will ever be. She viciously attacks Democrats during the election and then gets us to think she's on our side by attacking Republicans between elections.

Obama and Edwards, at least, have learned from the last two elections that CW about not picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrel has cost us election after election and, in any case, is no longer true in the age of the Internet.

Hillary, on the other hand, mostly gets a pass from them. They're dying for her to get the nomination so they can uncork all the old Clinton Wars crap again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 09/10/2007

Point taken. It is kind of a thin line. But by responding to columnists and talk radio hosts, you run the risk of giving them more credibility and giving their charges more of an audience. I just think that Obama made a mistake on this. Not a fatal mistake but, he needs to be a little less thin skinned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 09/10/2007

Dowd, another opportunist like Tweety and Timmeh. WAKE UP READERS...if she really cared about ANYTHING she wouldn't be writing for the NYT.

(Liberal columnist my ass)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 09/08/2007
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Why is it, that Obama does not cry out against this war more forcefully. Yes he voted against the war. True. But since he has not shown great opposition. Is it, because he does not, or cannot take the final step against his Muslim brothers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 09/08/2007

I stopped reading Dowd a few years ago. If I want to hear frustrated Irish girls sniping and snipping, I'll go to church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 09/08/2007

Before Obama ever entered the race, Maureen Dowd wrote a column encouraging him to run. She was very enthusiastic. Since then whe wrote a column "suggesting" that Michelle Obama cool down the jokes about her husband as she made him look like a fool. Now, Michelle again makes little jokes about her husband - at his expense. Calls him "snorey and stinky". How dumb of her and him. Maureen will now run with that expression. I for one think she is great. (and I like Obama!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 09/08/2007

There is plenty to criticize about Ms Dowd but she is lucid enough to avoid trying to be like or copy Molly Ivans. The late Ms Ivans was a product of an era in Tejas & the USA that is long gone. The passing of that unique era is mourned by some, missed by many; but, it won't return ever. Ms Dowd is quite aware of these facts. It's doubtful if Ms Dowd is trying to copy any other writer. She strives to be unique. She is aware of the American tradition of humor in reporting politics. Love or hate Ms Dowd, she's unique.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 09/08/2007

Message to Dowd: get out of the beltway. Meaning your words don't matter to real Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 09/08/2007

I once adored Maureen Dowd, how could you not enjoy her "dicing and slicing" of Bush and Cheney and an email address of liberties@nytimes.com? But since 2004, I have yet to read anything of hers that has some positive to say or note. It is one diatribe after another. Yes she is witty but wit can only get you so far. Having a podium unlike few if any others, you would think standing for something might be in order. I know what she is against, but she is for? What does she espouse? I look for balance in pundits and op-ed columnists. It is easy to critique and deconstruct but what do you offer in its place? Paul Krugman remains heads above anyone else. In a scant few hundred words, he both disassembles policies and offers plausible alternatives. Ms. Dowd has become a shrill mole, digging everywhere but always in the dark never elucidating nor coming above ground to shed light. She is an endless tunnel to nowhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 09/08/2007
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Yeah,

I found that editorial witless and presumptious as well as vacuous. So Obama positioned himself as an outsider. Compared to Hillary, he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 09/08/2007
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MoDo is doing Obama a big favor. He can only take this "man o'destiny" crap so far. People who already love him swill it like free beer, but most Americans need to be convinced that this guy can lead the country. She's a liberal, but her job is not to make you feel good about inadequate candidates. She grew up in DC and is a full-time student of the manners of the Uberclass of American power. Her barbs wouldn't hurt if they didn't contain an element of truth to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 09/08/2007

Maureen is a Molly Ivins wannabe without the wit or the clear writing skills.
Half the time you read her column not having a clue whether she's dissing someone or praising them.
I miss Molly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 09/08/2007

I miss Molly also never will be another Texas lady like her or Ann Richards!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 09/08/2007
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