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Anti-War Dems Could Derail Bipartisan Compromise On Iraq

September 10, 2007 10:44 PM


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An effort by Senate Democratic leaders to develop a bipartisan compromise on Iraq war legislation may ultimately be defeated at the hands of the fiercest war critics in their own party.

The leadership, under intense pressure to produce some action on Iraq, has been working with a small group of Republicans to produce what most likely will be non-binding legislation calling for the start of a troop pullout by the end of this year but no end date for a complete withdrawal.

A mounting chorus of Democratic defectors, many of them responding to growing demands for withdrawal, may oppose the compromise legislation. Sen. Chris Dodd, D-CT, announced last week he won't support such a measure. Sources on Capitol Hill told the Huffington Post that Asst. Senate Majority Leader Dick Durbin of Illinois, Russ Feingold, D-WI, Patrick Leahy, D-VT, and Bernie Sanders, I-VT are also potential no-votes. And with the presidential campaign in full swing - and judging by their comments in Monday night's Univision debate - Sens. Barack Obama, D-IL, and Hillary Clinton, D-NY, are more than likely to buck such a bill.

"It wouldn't be a shocker, if there were as many Democratic defections as Republican gains," one Hill staffer with reservations about the legislation told the Huffington Post.

The loss of Democratic support, political observers predict, could mean that approximately a dozen Republicans will be needed for the bipartisan measure to pass; an unlikely outcome.

"The [Democratic] purists are going to vote against it," said Steve Clemons, a fellow at the New America Foundation. "A good chunk would vote for it.... Several Republicans will come on board, but the broad outline is designed not to win."

What exactly the legislative compromise will look like is still a matter of intense debate within political circles. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, seems poised to push an amendment - to be introduced sometime in the next two weeks by Sens. Carl Levin, D-MI and Jack Reed, D-RI - that will call for "a significant number" of troops to be withdrawn before the end of the calendar year, with a goal of completing the withdrawal sometime in 2008. The number withdrawn in 2007 could be as small as one brigade or as large as 40,000 to 50,000 troops, sources told the Huffington Post.

"A lot of different ways are being discussed to pick up enough votes as possible," said a staffer with knowledge of the proceedings. "A handful of options are still on the table, including a date-certain withdrawal."

The linchpin to the legislation's success may indeed be the number of troops set aside for redeployment. Several political observers predict that Republican war critics would only support a bill that reduced America's presence in Iraq by roughly 4,000 troops, a number General Petraeus has said he would be willing to stomach. Such a move - which will likely not win the support of anti-war Democrats - could be designed to give both parties short-term political cover.

"The plan could be to take a brigade out now and let the surge then un-surge," said Colin Kohl, a fellow at the Center for New American Security, in reference to the natural drawdown of troops that will occur in April when tours of duty expire. "The cautious route is to use the veneer of bipartisanship to push the administration to draw down a small number of troops, claim you want to draw down more, but be risk averse. Then, wait till the troops are drawn down in the spring."

On the periphery of this debate are several other potential legislative battles. Sen. Jim Webb, D-VA, is slated to reintroduce his amendment calling for active troops to have equal time at home as they spend in their previous tour of duty. The measure fell four votes short of the 60-vote filibuster-proof minimum when put forward this past summer. In addition, Sen. Ken Salazar, D-CO, is likely to reintroduce his amendment calling for the implementation of the Iraq Study Group proposals.

Some Democratic war opponents told the Huffington Post that compromise legislation is preferable to political stalemates and that the party should throw its weight behind the Levin-Reed amendment. But many Democrats contend that the party would be better served by simply resending date-certain withdrawal bills to the floor in the face of Republican opposition.

"It's very concerning that the floated basis of that compromise looks like not even a token withdrawal and compromising on the end date," said Michael Signer, a foreign policy adviser to presidential candidate John Edwards, who opposes the reported legislation. "We've seen with this President that when you give him an inch he'll take a mile. And if they compromise with the President he will likely have the leeway to carry this out till the end of his term."

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I've found General Powell's testimony before the Congress to be very enlightening. By next July we should be able to find the WMD's. If not, maybe the next president can hunt for them. Thank you General Powell for your service to the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 09/11/2007
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NO compromise! Withdraw the troops and let the Iraqis fight over Allah. We don't need this bullshit and they are not being helpful. Time to leave. Past time to leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 09/11/2007

What is the Definition of Winning

1. We Kill or Capture all Al Qaeda and Terrorists in Iraq and seal the borders so more can not come in. This can be accomplished in several decades.

2. We Train and Equip the Iraqi Defense Forces to the 350,000 level with the twice the capability for the 130,000 Americans. They will then be able to provide total security for Iraq without US involvement. At the rate the Iraqis are coming up to speed this can be accomplished by 2050.

3. The Democratically elected government truly represents the people and provisional governments provide bottoms up support. Then over 80% of the Iraqis will support the government and Al Qaeda will be driven out of the country. This will probably occur sometime after 2100.

Once any one of these are accomplished we can CLAIM VICTORY!

Jim Frego
Grants Pass, OR

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 09/11/2007

If Congress withholds the funding and Bush vetos, he will argue Congress is denying the troops what they need. If Congress holds firm and Bush does not pull the troops out, he is committing a high crime against the country and should be impeached along with Cheney for treason, in that he, as commander-in-chief, would be intentionally putting the troops in harm's way, knowing he doesn't have the funding to protect them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 09/11/2007

This spineless Democratic leadership is pandering to Bush again.

They'll pass another non-binding non-bill and then once more declare "Peace in our time". Disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 09/11/2007

So, being "anti" war is "bad"?

I'm sorry, but I just don't get having a "compromise" on something that is totally rotten is somehow being "wrong".

And for the record, I'm against the next war too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 09/11/2007

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - A U.S. citizen has confessed to using an axe to kill a Dutch student after failing to find a soldier to attack, his lawyer said Tuesday.

The suspect, Carlos Hartmann, 41, of Tecumseh, Mich., has confessed to the Sept. 8 killing on a train platform in the southern city of Roosendaal, defence lawyer Peter Gremmen said.

Gremmen said Hartmann wanted to punish the Netherlands for its support of the war in Iraq.

Hartmann appeared before a judge Tuesday and was ordered held for another two weeks for investigation.

Savage is right: Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 09/11/2007
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You are totally whacked out SE!!

Mental illness is not a factor in choosing a political affiliation but in your case, listening to Savage may have contributed to your insanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 09/11/2007

Did you happen to see the behavior of the anti-war protesters at the congressional hearings yesterday? Did you notice their petulant behavior?

I rest my case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 09/11/2007

"When Saddam changed reserve currency to the Euro in November 2000 he sealed his fate."

nuQlerOstrich,
How'd you know that? You didn't get it from the MSM because it has been a taboo subject amongst journalists (read: propaganda spewers) since the "Attack On Iraq."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 09/11/2007

4000 troops have to be rotated out anyway! This is just a war monger lie! There must be hard numbers in the withdrawal timetable. Since this war is costing of friends and making us new enemies, all the troops must be withdrawn ASAP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 09/11/2007
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There is no compromise. Either this atrocity goes on or it ends. Where's the middle ground?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 09/11/2007

You know we keep hearing about Democrats not having the backbone to take on the Republicans and President Bush with respects to this war in Iraq.

We keep hearing Democrats refuse to cut the funding for the war and they are unable to gather the votes to set a timetable for withdraw of our troops from Iraq.

I think the real question should be, when will the Republican's get their BACKBONE to stand up against the Bush/Rove/Cheney Machine?

For 7 years now Republicans have kissed the President's 'BACKEND', doing everything he, Karl Rove or Dick Cheney demands of them. Look where it's got them.

They are now considered the most non-conservative bunch to be elected by their own party base. They have American's deeper debt then ever before. They've increased the size of government, not decreased it as Conservatives are known for doing. They came into power claiming they had better moral values and that they would clean up the White House only to see themselves humiliated by certain members of their own party and corruption by CEO's such as Enron.

They are suppose to be the party of less government intrusion ('Big Brother' control) yet they've allowed the President more control of the common citizen's civil rights then ever before in our history. Last but not least, they helped get us into another Vietnam MESS by authorizing the war in Iraq and by their continuing to OBEY the Bush/Rove/Cheney machine by refusing to stop the war.

When will the Republican Party finally say ENOUGH already? We're suppose to be Conservatives. We SOLVE problems, we don't MAKE THEM.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 09/11/2007
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Whoopee, another 'nonbinding resolution' from those ballsy Senate Dems. Way ta go boys, just what we need, another toothless resolution that Bush can ignore. Poor Dems, I guess it's hard to take a two fisted stance against anything when your number one priority is keeping a hand free to cover your ass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 09/11/2007

The calculation should be: How best to further the goal of ending the war with haste, as is the clear preference of nearly 80% of the American people -- not to mention a majority of Iraqis.

Get railroaded, yet again... or derail away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 09/11/2007
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It's all about the oil. Secondly, it's all about the oil. But it was also all about the oil.

Pass and send up the "fully funded withdrawal" bills, or make the Republicans do real filibusters if they can't get it through. If they run out of funds for the soldiers and Bush doesn't start bringing them home, let everyone know that George Bush is endangering the soldiers.

Drive the argument! Don't let them push you around! Take it to them, and don't back down! Don't allow the Bush Dog Dems to swing the vote. The people want to end the war -- We The People must drive this democracy, or it isn't a democracy any more!

Did I mention it's all about the oil?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 09/11/2007

Democrats who STAND resilute and unwavering to end the Iraq War NOW (winning or losing those votes)will be remembered in 2008 elections. All those who cave, capitulate, or become surge cheer leaders...your names will also be listed as being challenged in the Primaries, and replaced.
Republicans if the War continues through 2008 you become EXTINCT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 09/11/2007
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