Black Republicans Sharply Divided Over GOP's Shunning Of Black Voter Forum

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First Posted: 09-20-07 10:22 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Reaction among black conservatives is divided over news this week that Republican presidential frontrunners had pulled out of a long-scheduled debate at a historically black college.

"Many people think that Republicans don't care about the black community," Don Scoggins, President of Republicans for Black Empowerment, told the Huffington Post. "I know that's not true, but it's hard to dispel when have we major candidates who say they have scheduling conflicts."

Other black conservatives were far more forgiving.

"I truly believe that Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and John McCain can't make it because of scheduling conflicts," said black conservative pundit La Shawn Barber on her blog Wednesday. "I'm hopelessly naïve, I guess."

The Huffington Post reported on Monday that former senator Fred Thompson was the last of the Republican frontrunners to decline an invitation to debate at Morgan State University in Baltimore, Md. The debate, scheduled for Sept. 27 and sponsored by PBS, will include Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA), Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), and Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO). The campaign of Alan Keyes, who only entered the race last week, did not say whether he would attend, or whether he was invited.

Tavis Smiley, a PBS TV host who is moderating the debate, earlier expressed doubts that Republican front runners had scheduling conflicts that prevented them from attending. His skepticism was shared by Scoggins of Republicans for Black Empowerment.

"This wasn't something that just came up, this has been planned for months," Scoggins said, noting that the Morgan State debate was announced at the same time Democrats debated at Howard University in Washington DC in June.

"For the major candidates, considering how much time they have to spend on fundraising, they probably feel that the black community doesn't offer much of a return, and they spend their time elsewhere," he said.

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But the leader of another black Republican organization said Scoggins' disappointment was misplaced.

"The message the Democrats are sending to black children is that they should celebrate their victimhood rather than get a good education, become prosperous, and god forbid vote for a Republican," said Frances Rice, the chairwoman of the National Black Republican Association. "If you do that, they will castigate you as an Uncle Tom, an Aunt Jemima, or as a House N-word, when it's the Democrats who are devastating our communities. That is what we should be talking about."

She argued that the debate has been stacked against Republican candidates.

"I have no idea what Tavis Smiley will do, but I know his behavior and conduct in the past has been highly supportive of Democrats, and highly critical of Republicans," Rice added. "There are people who just want an opportunity to beat up on Republicans."

But Scoggins questioned the notion that the forum would put Republicans in front of a hostile audience. He said that groups like his had been asked to bring in audience members who would be receptive to the Republican message. More importantly, he said that Republican candidates should be ready to brave waters that might at first appear choppy.

"The community has matured and they're ready to hear what people have to say," he argued. "You can't assume a black audience will not be well received, they have to break the ice so we can move on."

Scoggins said he hoped that Republican Party leaders could still prevail upon the top Republican hopefuls to debate at Morgan State. The Republican candidates have also been invited to a November debate hosted by the Congressional Black Caucus Institute and Fox News.

Georgella Muirhead, a spokeswoman for the CBC Institute, said she could not say at this time which Republican candidates had accepted or declined the invitation, but said an announcement was forthcoming.

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"The debate, scheduled for Sept. 27 and sponsored by PBS, will include Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA), Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), and Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO)." I am a whitey, but I point out that many of the GOP candidates did agree to be at the debate. We are heading into a world which is partyless. These individuals will be there and I give any candidate who shows credit. While there is a civil war going on in Iraq, there is also a class war going on in America. I am appalled and disappointed that any candidate would shun this forum, and I feel that Tavis Smiley himself should run for elected office, perhaps starting out as a CongressPerson. I still have not forgiven GWB for dissing the NAACP. These candidates who diss black forums and black organizations should be ashamed of themselves. This is a sad day for America when candidates put so little importance on the image the project and put all their faith in demographics. Also, (I'll probably get dissed for saying this) are not black people well-known for their strong Christian faith? Since when are these Christian Right GOP candidates so sure of themselves dissing some of the most Christian people in the world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 09/21/2007
- Chris I'm a Fan of Chris 12 fans permalink

WHy is it that huffsters cheered the democratics all refusing to attend the debate cosponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus? But now you are attacking republicans for not attending a debate sponsored by a historically black college?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 09/21/2007
- jaschrod I'm a Fan of jaschrod 27 fans permalink

I am not a repug backer, but maybe they saw no discussion that they found would be beneficial. I remember a few years ago when a bill was passed that was good for all people no matter what the color.The first thing I heard out of black person's mouth was, but they never said what they were going to do for black people.My problem with this statement was/is, blacks want to be treated like all other people.They say they want to be treated as a person, and not a color, but it appears to me that they consider themselves a color before being a person.Can't have it both ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 09/21/2007
- nihilon x I'm a Fan of nihilon x 39 fans permalink

"The first thing I heard out of black person's mouth was, but they never said what they were going to do for black people."

Exactly who is "black person" and why do you think he speaks for all black people?

EVERY group tries to protect their own interests -- gays, latinos, women, jews, southerners, labor unions, environmental groups, gun owners, etc, etc, etc...

Why try to single out "black person" for doing something that every other "group" does as well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 09/21/2007
- darker I'm a Fan of darker 43 fans permalink

Suprise!
Surprise!
You mean GOP/Republicans used blacks and then
dumped them because they're BLACK?
Geez, those "family values" guys are clever, aren't they? Laughing all the way after suckerin' y'all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 09/21/2007
- rickyjimmy I'm a Fan of rickyjimmy 6 fans permalink
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black republicans...reminds me of the jews that helped the ss to liquidate the ghettos in europe. just cooperate and everything will be alright.

idiots!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 AM on 09/21/2007

I don't get Black Republicans. I don't get gay or women Republicans either. It's like "Jews For Hitler." Somebody want to explain it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 09/21/2007

I agree. I'm still trying to figure out this one myself. The only excuse for some women, I suppose, is that there are a ton of them being supported by white, old, repube men that tell them how to vote. "You can't have that new Mercedes if the Democrats get elected". And like the dutiful little Stepford wives they are, they pull the right lever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 09/21/2007
- Chris I'm a Fan of Chris 12 fans permalink

WHy would blacks support the party of Lincoln? Why would blacks support the party that DID NOT filibuster the civil rights act?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 09/21/2007
- kroses98 I'm a Fan of kroses98 13 fans permalink

"Black Republicans" are an Oxymoron. Period!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 09/21/2007
- shag11 I'm a Fan of shag11 11 fans permalink

They don't care, and any of those asshole defending them are self-haters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 09/21/2007
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It baffles me, as to why any African-American can support the reBushlicans, after what they have said and done over the years.

Those that do must have memory loss. This is the party who produces the likes of Trent Lott, who said the country would be a better place if it elected Strom (the man under the white hood)Thurman as president.

The party who has given our country Richard "The Dick" Cheney, the man who voted against making M.L.King's birthday a federal holiday. The same man who called Nelson Mandela a terrorist, and voted to convince the South African government to keep Mandela imprisoned. He also voted against many bills which benefited minorities.

And last, but by no means least, the party which has given us George "Dumb ya" Bush. The man who squandered golden opportunities to unite our divided not once, but twice. Right after 9/11, and the colossal mismanagement of hurricane Katrina. America will never forget his reaction and responce. While over 1,200 were dying, mostly African-Americans, he was literally playing air-guitar. He flew over the devastation for the photo-op, instead of flying in food, drinking water, medication, diapers, clothing, etc. on Air Force One for the victims. Just imagine if he had done that. And then on top of it his mother told the media the victims were underprivileged anyway, and having them sheltered in the Astra Dome was good for them.

This is the party; which the number of people living in poverty has increased every year for the past six years. The party which has cut college loans for the needy. The party which has cut benefits for our Veterans. The party which has taken away our civil rights, which many died for. The party which is ripping to threads our constitution and trampling on our liberties.

reBushlican supporting African-Americans should not forget history. If it was left up to the Greedy Obnoxious People (GOP), Negro's would still be riding in the back of the bus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 09/21/2007
- athenalong I'm a Fan of athenalong 2 fans permalink
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PREACH Bruh. Preach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 09/21/2007

Black Republicans actually believe that they can join the KKK.

Back during slavery, they were the one's that lived in the house. And if the Masta felt sick, they felt sick too.

One would think that after all of the betrayals of the GOP dating back to Richard M. Nixon, that they would see the light. But their brains are fried died and laid to the side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 09/21/2007

Black republicans see the republican KKK hat and believe it is the big tent they've heard so much about. How saddd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 09/20/2007
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 86 fans permalink

I wouldn't stoop to calling Frances Rice an Aunt Jamima - like she suggest people who disagree with her do. But I will say she is one of the stupidest people to speak in public if she really thinks the Democrats are the biggest problem for black people today. More likely she is repeating that same "democrats and social programs cause poverty" BS that Rush , Savage and Hannity peddle- because there is a paycheck in it for her.
Lets ask the people in N.O. what they think of how the GOP treats REAL VICTIMS of a natural disaster.
Selling out your culture out to make a buck: now if only there was a name for people who do tat

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 09/20/2007

If they don't have the guts to face Black Americans, how can the Republican candidates stand up to Islamic extremists?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 09/20/2007
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 86 fans permalink

they can't and won't
good point

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 09/20/2007

both parties, democratics and republicans, disrespect the black vote. the republicans have ignored us, and the democrats have taken us for granted. but, that is the fault of the african-american voter. both parties need to be held accountable, but we need to hold ourselves accountable first. it is true, however, that the democrats, in their zeal to take us for granted, still understand and do more regarding our interests than the republicans. pres bush and the other leaders of the republican party have only permitted blacks like alan keyes and others of his ilk the opportunity to be taken advatage of directly. they have done the same thing to the unwitting christian right, playing on their prejudices, in order to further the cause of those in the party like tom delay,dick cheney et al....not to further the cause of america. what a pity, and what a shame on our country, and our future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 09/20/2007

It must be hard to decided whether to reveal that your a bunch of thieving hypocritical racists or keep in unspoken..?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 09/20/2007
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