Christian Coalition Threatens To Back Third-Party Candidate To Derail Giuliani Nomination

New York Times   |  David D. Kirkpatrick   |   September 30, 2007 04:10 PM


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Alarmed at the chance that the Republican party might pick Rudolph Giuliani as its presidential nominee despite his support for abortion rights, a coalition of influential Christian conservatives is threatening to back a third-party candidate in an attempt to stop him.

The group making the threat, which came together Saturday in Salt Lake City during a break-away gathering during a meeting of the secretive Council for National Policy, includes Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family, who is perhaps the most influential of the group, as well as Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, the direct mail pioneer Richard Viguerie and dozens of other politically-oriented conservative Christians, participants said. Almost everyone present expressed support for a written resolution that "if the Republican Party nominates a pro-abortion candidate we will consider running a third party candidate."

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- SeconLine See Profile I'm a Fan of SeconLine permalink

This is the best news I've heard all day.

The GOP is bankrupt both financially and morally.

The GOP hasn't a single strong candidate.

I lived in NYC under Rudy, and if he's the best they got, the Whackos should split and run a third party candidate. He's a scumbag.

At least they're sticking to their "principle" and vowing to take all their one-issue voters with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 10/01/2007
- dadw5boys See Profile I'm a Fan of dadw5boys permalink

Words are just words till they take legal form.
I recently learn that President G.H.W. BUSH signed Public Bill 102-14 which infact mades the USA a Jewish State.It was DISGUISED as an Eduction Day Bill. I have been Jewish 16 years now and no one told me.
I have to get circumscized or super sized I don't know. Will Begals taste good with collard greens and fat back? Where do I go for Jewish Lessons? I don't know how to be Jewish! Who do I love? Who do I fear or hate? I got so much to learn.
It would be nice if our Government was going to Proclaim a Religious Base of a Countries Religion they would tell the Citizens. I always felt safe it the fact that I as an American could openly choose my religion.
Where can I find a used Tora to study? ANYONE WANT TO BUY A USED BIBLE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 10/01/2007
- ZingoBonMot See Profile I'm a Fan of ZingoBonMot permalink

Anybody know how I can obtain a ROOTY FOR PREZIDENT bumper sticker? Or maybe a 1,000?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 10/01/2007
- proudcalib See Profile I'm a Fan of proudcalib permalink

This seems like a lot of wishful thinking from the punditocracy. The fundamentalists will suck it up and support Guiliani, because they are terrified of Hillary Clinton.

The real task for Democrats is the reveal what an empty suit Mr. 9/11 truly is. For all his bluster about being the only authentic "war on terror candidate," he has absolutely nothing to offer.

His claim to fame is a result of reacting (albeit very well) to a tragedy that had already occurred. I've heard no plans whatsoever from Rudy as to the way forward. He's merely living on the fumes on 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 10/01/2007
- ZingoBonMot See Profile I'm a Fan of ZingoBonMot permalink

Trust me (and yeah, I know what that tranlates to in Yiddish...), I live in the "Heart" of the Bible Belt, and the Baptists down here are absolutely insane (-er than usual) that Rooty is the current front runner.
GO ROOTY! GO ROOTY! GO ROOTY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 10/01/2007
- stlrfan See Profile I'm a Fan of stlrfan permalink

This would be too good to be true, I think they are just trying to scare the party back into line, only hope that Dobson's ego wins the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 10/01/2007
- condieshoes See Profile I'm a Fan of condieshoes permalink

This is very good news. I hope they do put up a third party candidate. It will mean a Democratic victory if the votes aren't stolen again, and the RNC does their caging tactics with voter lists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 10/01/2007
- plutorage See Profile I'm a Fan of plutorage permalink



Conservatives are flummoxed. Guiseppe the organ grinder won't beat Hilary. Popeye is punched out, maybe the insurance salesman from Taxachussetts would give it a good shot, that is who Bill Clinton is expecting to be nominated. Heinrich Himmler hasn't been popular in while and neither the Vicar nor the deputy sheriff of Mayberry stand a chance, not to mention the InvisibleMan. Nobody takes Dr. Seuss seriously tho he's popular with the kids.

That leaves Fred Thompson. If it is beating Hilary they want, I think he is their only hope. Here is what the godfather of cons has to say about him:

http://www.conservativesbetrayed.com/gw3/articles-latestnews/articles.php?CMSArticleID=1827&CMSCategoryID=19

Seems like a good guy and most of the criticism seems to be missed punches. No KO here as far as I can tell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 10/01/2007
- buddydave See Profile I'm a Fan of buddydave permalink

Almost makes me want to register Republican and vote Giuliani in the primary...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 10/01/2007
- ImmanuelGoldstein See Profile I'm a Fan of ImmanuelGoldstein permalink

I think there is a lesson here. Courting religious absolutists is hopeless because if you dont give them EVERYTHING THEY WANT they will turn on you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 10/01/2007
- paixa3 See Profile I'm a Fan of paixa3 permalink

WTF????? These folks have got to be crazy!!!!!

I hope they do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 10/01/2007
- ADVOCATE4ZPG See Profile I'm a Fan of ADVOCATE4ZPG permalink

EXACTLY!!! This would essentially isolate the so-called Christian conservatives largely in the southern states of the U.S. Republican candidates would suffer, and that party's lock on many states would be broken....

Encourage the formation of an anti-abortion- rights-mandatory-school-prayer party. It's possibly the only way to purge this neuropathology from the body politik of the U. S.!
ENCOURAGE THIS NEEDED ARMAGEDDON!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 10/01/2007
- hmmmmmer See Profile I'm a Fan of hmmmmmer permalink

Wow, is this a threat or actually a present to the Democratic Party for the way these wingnuts have acted over the past 7 years. War and profit seems to be their message, so bring em on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 10/01/2007
- stargazer13 See Profile I'm a Fan of stargazer13 permalink

Create a problem then offer a solution hum!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 10/01/2007
- Qbear See Profile I'm a Fan of Qbear permalink

Maybe they'll create the Santorum/Ralph Reed 08 ticket

How I'd LOVE beating the snot out of those two AGAIN. If they could get the empty wig Liddy Dole to be their campaign finance and strategy planner,,,that'd answer my every prayer (so to speak,)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 10/01/2007
- desertdweller See Profile I'm a Fan of desertdweller permalink

Reed is tarnished by Abramoff.

Santorum/Bauer...that's the ticket!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/01/2007
- Prolix247 See Profile I'm a Fan of Prolix247 permalink

Ted Haggard/Tom DeLay for the "Family Values" Party 08'.

The Exterminating Evil Tour...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 10/01/2007
- desertdweller See Profile I'm a Fan of desertdweller permalink

Giuliani's views on abortion aside, he pandered to the fundies by promising to appoint "strict constructionists" to the supreme court. Giuliani is as much as threat to reproductive rights as Brownback.

Remember, "When abortions are outlawed, only republicans will have abortions."

First Class Airfare to Cayman Islands - $1650
Five nights at resort - $1750
Therapeutic D&C - $750
Spa treatments - $600
Tummy tuck - $3000
Botox - $750
Meals, drinks, etc. - $1200

Working women need not apply...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 10/01/2007
- GenericBlogger See Profile I'm a Fan of GenericBlogger permalink

Most in this group of zealots don't even have the guts to reveal themselves. They remain anonymous.

I hope they succeed because the chances of a Democrat taking the White House in 2008 would be even higher.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 10/01/2007
- ZingoBonMot See Profile I'm a Fan of ZingoBonMot permalink


Let's see. This meeting took place in Salt Lake City. As in Salt Lake City, Utah, right?

Cue Mitt.

You're on, boy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 10/01/2007
- zendem1 See Profile I'm a Fan of zendem1 permalink

I am Third Party Jesus. I have returned to claim my kingdom. Here are my 10 Commandments. Heed thee:
Thou must not like gays
Thou must not like black people(unless it's election day)
Thou must encourage Hispanics to work for my chosen people for $3.50 per hour
Thou must not like Government(however there are exceptions)
Obey Big Oil. They know best.
Strike down Osama.(Ok you don't really have to strike him down, per se.)
Take the Bible literally(Except for the parts about stoning women to death who don't obey their husbands, and executions for not honoring the Sabbath. Dad was drunk when he wrote those)
Take up arms and go conquer countries. (Especially those countries who sit upon great reservoirs of oil)
It's now ok to like Jews(We didn't used to like them, but now it's ok because it helps with the Armageddon campaign)
Thou shalt covet thy neighbor's ass(Especially in men's rooms and whorehouses in Louisiana)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 10/01/2007
- ZingoBonMot See Profile I'm a Fan of ZingoBonMot permalink

LOL Good one, zanden 1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 10/01/2007
- ZingoBonMot See Profile I'm a Fan of ZingoBonMot permalink

Sorry, zendem1, wife's gone for two weeks and I haven't yet managed to make a good pot of coffee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 10/01/2007
- Qbear See Profile I'm a Fan of Qbear permalink

If the Batsh*t crazy Fundies form a Party then Democrats could run Kucinch. Hell they could run Kucinch naked and tap dancing in a MPLS airport restroom....but that's SO REPUBLICAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 10/01/2007
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