"I think as long as multiple other countries join together in a NATO or UN type base it's good."

MORON. Would you like the UN and EU to set up permanent bases in Florida, California, or Nebraska?

We should get out NOW because we are picking up where the Soviets left off, and we all so how badly that turned out.

I think as long as multiple other countries join together in a NATO or UN type base it's good. If it's a US built and provide we need to back up and stop the money from somewhere. If we can keep playing Bush/Cheney version of wargames with real people and cannot afford to educate and pay for healthcare for the kids i want no part of it. The countries roads and bridges are falling down while we fight another war in some other place. Bin Laden is a smart man and he will hold his cells here in the US until they can do the most damage. Bush has just made it all too easy for him to build his armies and plans with no borders closed and the war brings him more fanatics.

NOW PROVE IT !!!
We have been hearing over and over this administration had conspired to get US in to a war in the Middle East before 9/11. I hate this administration (and a good number of Congress) enough to consider the premeditated "let it be' mentality similar to the Pearl Harbor attacks- aware but no real attempts to protect against- doing nothing is still doing something.
Thank goodness I was born in a time & place where lynching techniques are not in my education- but perhaps there are some who still know how- W & DICK string 'em up!!!Make sure it's a strong branch- theres a mess of 'em in line.

The news is good.. USA is adding a 'Pacca Building ' to it's Airbase at around Kabul .First this should be transmitted to Third world .
The US Pentagon ,Engineers and Architects know who's going to buy the place ,so add lustre and extravaganza ..Technology and Archtecture both have bend to Man in adoration and service too . ..
Because 'Permanent 'could confuse communication almost everywhere except insiders...And a Russian Comment could contain another 'paraplex' in the region ....And there goes another World War!

A report by the Oxford Research Group (ORG) said a "fundamental re-think is required" if the global terrorist network is to be rendered ineffective.

"If the al Qaeda movement is to be countered, then the roots of its support must be understood and systematically undercut," said Paul Rogers, the report's author and professor of global peace studies at Bradford University in northern England.

"Combined with conventional policing and security measures, al Qaeda can be contained and minimised but this will require a change in policy at every level."

He described the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq as a "disastrous mistake" which had helped establish a "most valued jihadist combat training zone" for al Qaeda supporters.

The report -- Alternatives to the War on Terror -- recommended the immediate withdrawal of all foreign troops from Iraq coupled with intensive diplomatic engagement in the region, including with Iran and Syria.

In Afghanistan, Rogers also called for an immediate scaling down of military activities, an injection of more civil aid and negotiations with militia groups aimed at bringing them into the political process.

If such measures were adopted it would still take "at least 10 years to make up for the mistakes made since 9/11."

"Failure to make the necessary changes could result in the war on terror lasting decades," the report added.

Rogers also warned of a drift toward conflict with Iran.

"Going to war with Iran", he said, "will make matters far worse, playing directly into the hands of extreme elements and adding greatly to the violence across the region. Whatever the problems with Iran, war should be avoided at all costs."

LONDON (Reuters) - Six years after the September 11 attacks in the United States, the "war on terror" is failing and instead fuelling an increase in support for extremist Islamist movements, a British think-tank said on Monday.

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A report by the Oxford Research Group (ORG) said a "fundamental re-think is required" if the global terrorist network is to be rendered ineffective.

"If the al Qaeda movement is to be countered, then the roots of its support must be understood and systematically undercut," said Paul Rogers, the report's author and professor of global peace studies at Bradford University in northern England.

"Combined with conventional policing and security measures, al Qaeda can be contained and minimised but this will require a change in policy at every level."

He described the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq as a "disastrous mistake" which had helped establish a "most valued jihadist combat training zone" for al Qaeda supporters.

The report -- Alternatives to the War on Terror -- recommended the immediate withdrawal of all foreign troops from Iraq coupled with intensive diplomatic engagement in the region, including with Iran and Syria.

In Afghanistan, Rogers also called for an immediate scaling down of military activities, an injection of more civil aid and negotiations with militia groups aimed at bringing them into the political process.

If such measures were adopted it would still take "at least 10 years to make up for the mistakes made since 9/11."

"Failure to make the necessary changes could result in the war on terror lasting decades," the report added.

Rogers also warned of a drift toward conflict with Iran.

"Going to war with Iran", he said, "will make matters far worse, playing directly into the hands of extreme elements and adding greatly to the violence across the region. Whatever the problems with Iran, war should be avoided at all costs."

Slightly behind schedule but mission accomplished. Get ready for the draft boys and girls.

92% of the worlds heroin comes from Afghanistan so Bush needs troops to protect his interests there..

Wnat to know more about what's up in Afganistan?

Consider reading this:

From Afghanistan to Iraq: Connecting the Dots With Oil
By Richard W. Behan
AlterNet
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/47489/
Monday 05 February 2007

In the Caspian Basin and beneath the deserts of Iraq, as many as 783 billion barrels of oil are waiting to be pumped. Anyone controlling that much oil stands a good chance of breaking OPEC's stranglehold overnight, and any nation seeking to dominate the world would have to go after it.
...

Afghanistan

The strategic location of Afghanistan can scarcely be overstated. The Caspian Basin contains up to $16 trillion worth of oil and gas resources, and the most direct pipeline route to the richest markets is through Afghanistan.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, the first western oil company to take action in the Basin was the Bridas Corporation of Argentina. It acquired production leases and exploration contracts in the region, and by November of 1996 had signed an agreement with General Dostum of the Northern Alliance and with the Taliban to build a pipeline across Afghanistan.

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Bush: Working with a fine coalition, our military went to Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of Al Qaida, and put the Taliban out of business forever. [11/24/03]

Bush: Because of American soldiers and our brave allies and friends, who have fought beside them, the Taliban is out of business. [3/15/02]

Bush: Our first objective in the first theater against the war against terror has been achieved: The Taliban are out of business. [2/4/02]

Bush: Now thanks to the United States and our fine allies, Afghanistan is no longer a haven for terror, the Taliban is history, and the Afghan people are free. [8/14/03]

Bush: Today, Afghanistan is a world away from the nightmare of the Taliban. [7/12/04]

Sounds like there is a problem getting that pipeline from the Caspian sea regions , through Afghanistan and Iraq to the Persian gulf like they've had plans for since 1998. And with Iran looking more like an impossible mission,even though Bush will do it, they need to get that gas and oil pipeline route to work.

I know this is old news and long ago exposed and then brushed aside to be forgotten with time,but in case you need reminding. http://members.localnet.com/~jeflan/jfafghanpipe.htm

Poppies! Poppies! Poppies!

We have garrisoned the world! I am not sure the statistics at this point but as of YE 2005, the US had 737 military bases in 130 countries. In the past 20 years, only three countries have successfully extricated themselves from hosting American troops: the Philippines, Saudi Arabia (though military advisers remain) and Ecuador. For god's sake, we have troops in Paraguay. And when this coupled with American contractors (Blackwater USA and their ilk), there is an American presence in every country Bhutan, San Marino, Nauru and Vatican City. And the US wonders why it is so hated?

This must mean they are going to finish the Pipeline now.

The Soviets had "permanent" bases in Afghanistan,too.