Fortunately, there's more to selecting a republican than reproductive rights. There's the obvious push to drive the entire middle east into a third world war, for instance... to think about! The most significant cultural war going on right now has more to do with recreating the era of the robber barrons than Christian values. It takes two full time jobs to meet living expenses, with no benefits. Seems to me what with so many politicians taking aim at so called bad habits and so called bad behaviors according to their petty minds, there's no one left to fight for our civil rights constitutionally. That's when you wake up one day in a third world nation run by a dictator, not realizing how you got there!

First Anti-Choicers, as one poster tagged us, are not robotic, rather pro choicers are.

We are FOR LIFE, pro-choicers are against it?

It is very interesting to note that NARAL and other pro choice orgs NEVER talk about the slavery that men impose on women....

Men, who do not care, cause women to get pregnant, women do not choose it themselves!

They NEVER talk about the fact that mistakes do
occur (Jimmy Carter said 2/3 of American women
choose abortion because they don't have a
real option) and that a caring & rich society
as our own should be able to help these young
women...with a job, with a home and with safety.

They NEVER talk about the fact that there is
forgiveness either.

And NONE of them talk about how invasive
abortion really is...I would never in my life,
even if I was a woman, allow anyone to do this
to my body.

And yes, we will win. Because God is on our
side and with God all things are possible in
his time, not ours.

Next week, I will stand, along with thousands
and thousands of Christians in prayer, at an
appropriate distance, in front of an abortion
clinic.

I will stand there, in peace, praying...not just
for an end to abortion...but I will pray for
those young women and their tiny unborn babies.

I will stand there, in testament, to those
unborn babies..CIVIL RIGHTS!

Elizabeth? He doesn't have to win the election to move the GOP forward in time; he just has to get the nomination.

See, how he fares with Democrats and Independents (and Libertarians and Socialists and...) is irrelevant if the point is to prove that Republicans will vote for him.

Anti-abortion people tend to have kids like them who vote like them. Pro-choice people tend to have kids, oh, wait, they don't have kids, they have abortions. Someone could probably run a mathematical model and figure out the exact date when there will be no more pro choice americans. Sorry, it's all about the math...

Elizabeth Shipp's belief that a pro-choice Republican would help the choice movement is astonishingly ignorant. Supporting Rudy Giuliani would make NARAL an even more irrelevant organization than they already are. NARAL and other choice organizations will only advance their movement if it is part of a greater progressive movement. This is a concept that the civil rights movement understood in the 1960's. It is a concept that organized labor and the environmental movement have grasped more recently. Sadly the choice movement continues to miss the point. NARAL will without fail endorse any pro-choice Republican. Can a NARAL supporter explain to me how supporting pro-choice Republicans who will support anti-choice leadership in the House and Senate advances the choice movement?

The truth of the matter is anti-choice Democrats do move for the choice movement than pro-choice Republicans do. As President Rudy Giuliani will be forced to lean on House and Senate Republicans to advance his agenda. In the past Rudy has shown that choice is an issue he doesn't feel too strongly about and will be willing to make concessions. A Giuliani administration would undoubtly appoint a number of anti-choice judges to appease Congressional Republicans.

If NARAL really wanted to advance their cause they would join with their progressive allies and ensure that the Republican Party is resigned to permanent minority status, where they will be unable to continue their assualt on Roe v. Wade.

STRANGE Bed"fellows"
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Womyn and queers Don't support Rudy

Neither pro-choice or anti-choice folks should support Giuliani, he once was pro-choice but to PANDER to the Christian reich he has promised Supreme Court nominees like Roberts and Scalito who will overturn Roe v Wade.

Is this another "Lieberman endorsement?"THAT one worked out real well!

If the pro-gay and pro-choice folks support a hate-monger; a war-monger like giuli.

The hell with them!

NARAL needn't worry about that decision because there are no pro-choice Republican candidates, certainly not flop-flopper Rudy who has stated he would put anti-choice justices on the Supreme Court, restrict public funding and continue abstinence-only 'education'. NARAL had better not do something as stupid as supporting any of the current crop of Rs or its already sullied reputation among pro-choice organizations and activists will get even dirtier.

Pro-Choice Republican President "Would Help" Movement.

A pro-choice Repube would help the entire country. Unfortunately, they're rare as hens teeth.

The republicans would do well to run as fast as they can in the opposite direction from the religious fanatics that have taken over thier party, rather then sucking up to them. The religious fanatics should be dismissed from both parties as never offering anything truly positive, but just menace the entire population with thier stupidity. Don't let the monkeys run the zoo. don't let the religous nuts run anything. Let them stay in thier little cults if they must but thier input is worthless to normal society.

The republicans don't ever want to see abortion completely illegal....if they did it would be illegal....They had both houses, the executive branch and five anti choice judges on the US Supreme Court....the republicans have been lying and saying they want abortion completely illegal and Roe vs. Wade over-turned for over thirty five years....However, look at the facts, abortion brings in tons of money for the republicans, just by the mere mentioning the word, abortion will bring out tens of millions of anti choice voters for the republican party whenever the word is used, all for republican political gain....Abortion being legal help keeps republicans elected in many areas as well as helping republican sponsored ballot measures passed....And it's always a great wedge issue for the republicans whenever need it.

Still, the republicans have sadly legislated abortion to make it near impossible for a woman to have a choice in many parts of this country....but to completely make it illegal, NEVER! It would be suicide for the republican party to do so....with the incredible amount of money donated, huge amounts of money given to the republican party when they use the abortion issue and the amazing, monstrous out-pour of voters in many areas coming out for republicans party who use the abortion issue to fire up their voter base with the the anger & passion it stirs up, the republicans want and need abortion to remain legal....

Of course the republicans will deny it to their death....but the fact remains, they could of outlawed abortion anytime they wanted to, when Sandra Day O'Connor stepped down on July 1st 2005 her successor, Justice Samuel Alito is anti-abortion, as was at the time, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist as is Rehnquist successor, John G. Roberts, along with the three other anti choice judges....Reagan nominated and appointed Antonin Scalia & Anthony M. Kennedy, and anti choice Bush nominated and appointed Clarence Thomas!

The republicans do however want to make it nearly impossible for a woman to get an abortion anywhere in the country,

It scares me to death to hear people say that abortion rights probably won't be outlawed---and to compare it to Prohibition.

PLEASE PLEASE do not underestimate the anti-choice grass-roots organizations!! They have slowly and steadily eroded public support for reproductive choices, and have chipped away at Roe.

And even if the more rabid anti-choicers of the Republican Party are kept at bay for 2008 --- that is not the same thing at all as having people in the GOP who will fight to keep a woman's right to choose legal.

Despite Rudy's past pro-choice statements, he is now hardly someone to herald as a champion of the cause. He said he would nominate Supreme Court Justice nominees who would overturn Roe.

Please go watch the documentary short that's on the Internet that shows anti-choice activists being interviewed as to what punishment they think a woman should have if Roe is overturned and she has an illegal abortion. This is a must-see for all of you who are frankly a little complacent about how seriously endangered Roe is. The people in the documentary have never even thought about the consequences if Roe is overturned --- one teenage girl actually says that she had always thought if abortions become illegal, women won't have them anymore. What planet has she been living on ... or, who has been educating this young woman?

I don't have the name of the documentary, but Anna Quindlen talked about it in one of her more recent Newsweek columns. PLEASE look at it if you want to see how robotic and yet driven these anti-choice activists are. They live in their own world. Do not assume they will give up if they are no longer represented politically as much as they have been in the Bush years.

I have seen public sentiment change dramatically since Roe's inception. Just think about it in terms of popular culture: How many times do you see abortion offered as a choice when an unplanned pregnancy occurs to a woman in a movie or TV show? Never.

With the rightwing X-tians at their heels, Republicans HAVE NO CHOICE in the matter of their party. It's the rightwing white X-tian's party and don't you forget it!

Once Rove & Co. released that Pandora's box of zealots, the Republican party began to crash.

GOP = R.I.P.