Orange County Fire Chief: "Had We Had More Air Resources, We Would Have Been Able To Control This Fire,"

AP   |  GILLIAN FLACCUS   |   October 24, 2007 09:00 AM


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"If the weather cooperates, maybe we can turn the tide," he said.

Crews were anticipating an injection of additional firefighters and equipment from other states, mostly throughout the West. Frustration over the firefighting effort began to emerge Tuesday when a fire official said not enough had been done to protect homes.

Orange County Fire Chief Chip Prather told reporters that firefighters' lives were threatened because too few crews were on the ground. He said a quick deployment of aircraft could have corralled a massive blaze near Irvine.

"It is an absolute fact: Had we had more air resources, we would have been able to control this fire," he said.

The fires have burned 410,000 acres, or about 640 square miles, causing at least $100 million in damage. Twenty-one firefighters and at least 24 others have been injured. One person was killed by the flames, and the San Diego medical examiner's officer listed four other deaths as connected to the blazes.

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There it is.. Just what we all knew would happen- our Homeland would not be protected in the face of any disaster. Have the put US in enough Jeopardy yet, gang banged the Constitution enough times, drained from the resources well far enough, blew enough smoke up our collective asses???
People are dying today in direct relation to this admins policiies. "OOPS" doesn't work anymore- it can only be considered intentional sabotage to weaken our ability to respond to emergencies- when lives hang in the balance. So W. wants more money to kill people- which will result in more deaths in the Middle East ( Cheney Diplomacy) and here in our own back yards.
It's time we pull these slimy bastards out of their spider holes and power wash their asses withImpeacchment and indictments for treason.Then perhaps we can have a clean start to rebuilding our nation inside & out following the Political disaster know as the Cheney years (the last 35)-the head of the serpent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 AM on 10/26/2007
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God told me it was DEFINITELY because of abortions and porn.

(Costs big money to get close enough to God to get the real scoop)

At least our leaders have certainly learned something about handling disasters. I was gonna book a mani-pedi but think I'll hold off til I hear the weather report..might be a hurricane headin our way. Saw a porn shop still open nearby and a pregnant unmarried girl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 10/24/2007
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 606 fans permalink
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Reich wingers need human suffering, to validate their superiority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 10/24/2007
- sgtjiggs I'm a Fan of sgtjiggs 7 fans permalink

Eh, Bush is only responsible for burning up 410,000 acres. In 1988 Reagan destroyed over 2 million acres in Yellowstone. Who's your daddy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 10/24/2007

Huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 10/24/2007
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The willful ignorance of our trolls is only exceeded by their lying propensities.

It is amazing how they can constantly expose their gullibility with such certainty.

If W could be their hero and Rush their mentor, how much dumber could they be?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 10/24/2007

"I am tolerant of stupidity, but not of those who take pride in it."
~Dame Edith Sitwell

Says it all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 10/24/2007
- Birdman I'm a Fan of Birdman 34 fans permalink

"It is an absolute fact: Had we had more air resources, we would have been able to control this fire," he said.

I found this a disturbing comment considering until Tuesday all aircraft were grounded due to the high winds. Maybe he needs to be a bit more forthcoming as to why they lacked air resaources. He insinuates that they were being used elsewhere and not in Orange county. When the issue was really the weather conditions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 10/24/2007

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The helicopters were not grounded!

And several "other" copters were not made available!

You figure it out ...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 10/24/2007

Apparently aircraft are incapable of flying when there are high winds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 10/24/2007
- Birdman I'm a Fan of Birdman 34 fans permalink

TheCheif was just on the news RETRACTING this statment. I have been watching the news the First helicopters were up on Tuesday none before that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 10/24/2007
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

The wind is not the same everywhere and where there manpower is limited he wanted them up there to protect the homes. Don't second guess a Fire Chief who fights these fires every year. It just makes you look ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 10/24/2007
- Birdman I'm a Fan of Birdman 34 fans permalink

He was just on the news RETRACTING this statement so ther ya go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 10/24/2007
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Dear god people, there is a fire going on. Does San Diego lean a bit more to the right than say Malibu? Of course. Is that Orange County Fire Chief correct in his assumption? I doubt it. I have lived here for most of my life and when the winds are like that (okay, these were a bit excessive even for the Santa Anas), all you can do is hope the wind dies down. This is not left or right. Arnold is a moderate republican but if you think if a democrat was in charge, anything would be different, you are wrong. We are Californians. In times like this we all pull together and we don't has for freaking political affilations before jumping in full heartedly to help. Get over your selves. People are dying, people are losing their homes and honestly, aside from the money we will need after, FEMA just stand back and let us handle this. We are pretty good at it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 10/24/2007

Having grown up in SoCal and recalling many firestorms, Laguna, Malibu, San Diego, Malibu, Tustin, Malibu

Hey its a fact of life in CA, in NorCal we have a wicked north wind that caused the Oakland Hills fire, which was the most expensive fire on record.

SoCal has the Santa Ana's (and God are they a dry wind, it was a harbinger of either fire or earthquake), this unfortunate situation was waiting to happen with the blow up of growth in San Diego and Northern LA. Malibu burning, well that ain't no big thing, it seems to burn every other year.

The winds prevented the air support, gust up to 90 MPH were reported. Do you see news copters in the air during a hurricane? Do airports close? It was waiting to happen, no matter how many guys were on the ground or in the air.

So if there is any true blame, it was un-checked urban sprawl...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 10/24/2007
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So if there is any true blame, it was un-checked urban sprawl.

And poor building codes and lack of fire buffers around buildings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 10/24/2007
- wndrwrthg I'm a Fan of wndrwrthg 33 fans permalink
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Add to that the drought over the past years (look at the dead trees when they show the tankers), lack of control burning, fuel that has been growing for decades, brush that produces its own accelerant and you have this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 10/24/2007
- joetrade I'm a Fan of joetrade 2 fans permalink

I bet the Californians can't wait till President Shit for Brains arrives Thursday with an entorage larger than the emergency forces in CA all to protect his useless,stupid
ass.It's a wonder they haven't sent Darth Vader to put out the fires.All this clown would have to do is breath on them and the odor from his rotten interior would stifle anyone or anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 10/24/2007

We dont even realize the shit our police and everyone else goes through to move this asshole from place to place...They close businesses, put up road blocks...close off roads and barracade the anti war protestors.
That is why they didnt commit to going right away...
They watch the media. Once the media started saying now is not the time to decide on a trip, the White House changed its position.
The people were reading the headlines...the people do matter to these traitors.
They HAD to go to Ca. They know the people would except nothing less.
Someone ought to hand all them bitches a shovel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 10/24/2007

KneoKnotHead has shown how deep she is. As deep as a puddle of dog drool in Malibu.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 10/24/2007
- JoJoGunner I'm a Fan of JoJoGunner 18 fans permalink

What otp meant to say is lot of difference between white people in San Diego and Black people in NO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 10/24/2007
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 606 fans permalink
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They deny it, but post it over and over again. They think they are being subtle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 10/24/2007
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There are a whole lot of brown people in San Diego. What are you guys talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 10/24/2007

What an interesting contrast in reactions between conservative San Diego and liberal New Orleans.
Things that make you go hmmm....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 10/24/2007

"Things that make you go hmmm...."


Giving Betty a hummer again, portajon?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 10/24/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 144 fans permalink
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That makes her say yummmmmmmmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

My thoughts exactly.

Libruls - the eternal victims

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 10/24/2007

Can you prove with certainty that every single person caught in the superdome was a liberal? Talk about desperation time Fireass. Didn't Rush give you any ideas on how to spin today? What's the matter did the boil on his ass burst??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 10/24/2007
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

RePUBlicans- the eternally stupid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 10/24/2007
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Firaxis:

Nice to see you back here again. We missed you.

I defy you to show me a bigger bunch of cry-baby victims than conservative white males:

"Whaaah! Mommy, the feminists are out to get me!"

Whaaah! Mommy, the multi-cuturals are out to get me!"

Whaaaaah, Mommy the im-a-gants are out to get me!"

"Whaaaaah, Mommy, I only make 30% more than any other demographic and I only control virtually every major business and institution in America!"

"Whaaaaaah, Mommy, the lib-ruls want me to pay my fair share of taxes and they want to hold me accountable for my actions!"

"Whaaaaah, Mommy, I'm a victim. Please don't let them take my guns away. I have no penis and those are the only proof of manhood I have left!"

Again, Fir, nice to talk to you again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 10/24/2007
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Figuring out which shoe, goes on which foot, makes you go , hmmmmmm....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 10/24/2007

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Conservative?

You idiot ... registered Dems 44%, registered repugs 47%!

San Diego County ... home of La Jolla and the Scripps Research Institute!

Not exactly a conservative area at all ...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 10/24/2007
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Jack:

What do you want to bet that, as proof that Bush is doing better with these fires than he did with Katrina (or Corina, as that Valium-addled skank that he's married to called it) rwe and other trolls will point out the fact that there has not been a single drowning in San Diego in the last few days? And this time the levies held!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 10/24/2007
- JoJoGunner I'm a Fan of JoJoGunner 18 fans permalink

Little racism here otp????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 10/24/2007

He likes to have a little racism with his afternoon tea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 10/24/2007
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“Most experts have assumed that as the world economy grows, it would require less in the way of fossil fuels to produce each unit of output, as businesses introduce energy-saving and energy-efficiency measures.

And indeed, this trend of reduced carbon dioxide to produce goods was observed from 1970 to about 2000, but has since reversed.

The paper notes that for the first time in more than three decades, emissions of carbon dioxide are rising more rapidly than the world's economic growth rate.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071023.CLIMATE23/TPStory/Environment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 10/24/2007
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"Carbon dioxide concentrations are at the highest level in the past 650,000 years, and probably the past 20 million years"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 10/24/2007

Lets not forget our dear friend Carbon monoxid that can cause Carboxy Hemoglobin and kill people. But what am I saying if we fuck up the environment on Earth we can just move to mars or jupiter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 10/24/2007
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Just like Hurricane Katrina, there will be plenty of recriminations and calls for more disaster preparedness. But, the truth is, Santa Ana winds this strong with record dry conditions in Southern California nothing can be done to stop the force of the fires. The idea that more water-carrying planes could have helped a little bit is true but the fact is you simply cannot staff and prepare for disasters of this magnitude.

If we had a government serious about responding to natural disasters we would have seen some positive results long ago. But, everything exists only on paper, just like food inspection, air quality, port inspections, highway safety, bridge reconstruction, tunnels, subways, sewer systems, all of which are deteriorating beyond the imagination. We can't even get this mob of Republicans who control our government to take care of millions of children and adults who are without health care.

And, anyone who thinks the Democrats are in the majority all they have to do is look at the record for the last year. Everything Bush and the Republicans have demanded, they’ve gotten -- mainly because of the total absence of leadership from the Democratic Party so-called leadership.

Just about every hospital is understaffed, under-funded and totally incapable of treating massive casualties which will inevitably happen due to man-made or natural disasters. How can we possibly think anyone really cares deeply enough to prepare for massive fires which will destroy property and lives when we can't even prepare for minor emergencies? The truth is, WAR is this government's priority and WAR above everything else, is Bush's raison d'être and his elixir.

As long as G. W. Bush has his underground bunker where he and his Gestapo can retreat to after he unleashes nuclear holocaust, what does he care if the rest of the country turns to ashes and cinders?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 10/24/2007

All those problems just became existent with the election of a Republican huh? It's the same phenomena that has the homeless magically appear with a Republican administration and just as magically disappear with a Democrat.
Things that make you go hmmm.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 10/24/2007

See, odious podious, even a numbskull like you can grasp something every decade or so.

Goon on ya, doofus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 10/24/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 144 fans permalink
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Your blather Blog.

Things that make you go WTF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 10/24/2007

That's not what he said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 10/24/2007
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