Obama's Just "Present" Votes In Illinois Allowed Him To Sidestep Controversial Issues

New York Times   |  RAYMOND HERNANDEZ and CHRISTOPHER DREW   |   December 20, 2007 12:37 PM


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In 1999, Barack Obama was faced with a difficult vote in the Illinois legislature -- to support a bill that would let some juveniles be tried as adults, a position that risked drawing fire from African-Americans, or to oppose it, possibly undermining his image as a tough-on-crime moderate.

In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted "present," effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.

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I've changed my opinion about Mr. Obama as of late, and to be fair to Mr. Obama, he is quite practical in saying that since the founding, American political tradition is reformist, not revolutionary. While I do not give whites the benefit of the doubt in their support for Mr. Obama, I do believe that Mr Obama is held to a much higher standard by black people than is necessary. Of course Mr. Obama is taking contributions from huge corporations, but in the words of R. Buckminster Fuller, "Don't fight forces, use them", and I'd like to give Obama the benefit of the doubt. If Obama does get elected and tries to produce justice, he will be vigorously opposed by the White Supremacists, as that is made increasingly apparent. As for his approach to white voters, this is simply pragmatism, you get flies with honey. Inherent in his campaign is the acknowledgment that the White Supremacists have really screwed things up, and while many people are to blame for the problems in the world, the people who are MOST to blame, are ALL White Supremacists. After giving Mr. Obama second look, I have a profound sense of admiration for him, and he really has to have some thick skin, and my view is sacrificing alot (principal among them is time with his offspring), and truly has to believe in hope to fend off the cynicism that is so understandably widespread in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 12/21/2007
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Oh, for all of those OBAMA HATERS out there knee-capping Obama with lead pipes on this and other sites (and you know who you are), well, I just want to let you know that as of this evening, Obama's Campaign has approximately 460,000 donors (for the year) and almost 740,000 donations (for the year). Tell me what other campaign even comes close. Here is the link: http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

BLUE STATE credentials and RED STATE credibility.

OBAMA baby!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 12/21/2007

OMG!!!!

Huffington Post actually presents an uncomfortable story about Obama!!!!

This should make national headlines!

One wonders why this is so as Huffington Post presents most Obama stories as if he is "the second coming."

If anyone looks at Obama's voting record during recent months one would find that he is noticeably absent from most controversial votes in the Senate. Granted, so is Clinton, but it is still interesting that Mr. "I am change" hasn't had a voice in the real votes that matter.

I wonder why Huffington Post made the editorial decision to finally call the dude out. In all previous posts, Huffington presents Obama as the golden boy and Clinton as the great evil doer.

Every political operative has an agenda and Huffington is no exception. I must admit, I find this one to be curious indeed.

*sarcasm*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 12/21/2007

America I know some body out there that has the data. Do we have a dataman or datawoman amony us. Lets get the stats on all candidates. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 12/21/2007
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I'm not surprised so few people actually read the article so they know what they're talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 12/21/2007
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Come on - we all know Obama supporters have been behind the man on faith alone. The fact that he doesn't have much of a legislative record to stand on shouldn't be a deterrent at all to them.

I for one don't have a problem with Obama - he's a solid 2nd choice for me - but Obama supporters irritate me with their blind allegiance and inability to criticize their own favored candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 12/21/2007

On the abortion votes the abortion rights groups *asked* him to vote present. But why bring that up. That would require actual reporting. As Stephen Colbert said, "you're the stenographers..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 12/20/2007

Hey did y'all hear that Obama wrote an essay in Kindergarten that said he wanted to be president? I think Hillary Clinton has shown to be the worst example of a leader I have ever seen. Why? Because she has no leadership qualities... charisma, compassion and character. I am at a loss as to why anyone other than New Yorkers like her...? Oh yeah her name 'Clinton'... pathetic, the fast food of politics. Uh did you want that supersized? No thanks I am eating healthy trying to stay a lean mean fighting machine like Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 12/20/2007

OMG! could it be this empty suit isn't what his delusional followers think he's supposed to be? Smoke and mirrors and PT Barnum lives!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 12/20/2007
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Obama claims campiagning is more important than voting on very important issues. He's wrong, but Clinton is just as sly with her refusal to give you a direct answer-yes or no-to the questions she's been asked, unless of course there's massive denunciation of her non-responses in the media the next day. These two are really slick. Edwards however isn't tainted with this at all and he's the only democratic candidate who, according to all polls, can beat any of the republican candidates in a general election. Makes one think. I don't care for his refusal to commit to bringing all the troops home by even 2013 nor his position of supporting Gay rights BUT not Gay marriage, however if it's a matter of who can win, Edwards is the one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 12/20/2007

Yes and on the Iran vote Obama voted "not present" and on about 75 % of the votes conducted in 2007...."not Present" . You see, he worked out another deal with the progressives to get paid as a Senator, but just not work like a Senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 12/20/2007

I guess we can expect that if Congress were to send him a bill like allowing gays in the military or one that banned late term abortions, President Obama would neither sign nor veto those bills rather than risk having those actions in his record.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 12/20/2007

Kucinich does not do this. Kucinich speaks out for what he believes in and acts on it with courage and integrity. If this country has learned anything at all from the past hideous seven years he will be our next president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 12/20/2007

I'm really surprised that so many liberals here on Arianna Huffington's website didn't know about this. I thought the liberals posting here were very up to date on their candidate's votes??

Or maybe not.

I remember the liberals here not knowing that General David Patraeus was confirmed unanimously, or not knowing about two amendments, both passed by the United States Senate, dealing with Iran.

It's almost if -- if the mainstream media doesn't tell you, you don't even know where to look.

His voting record is just NOW being talked about? What have all of you been doing during this campaign?

God bless the troops, who are doing a MAGNIFICENT job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 12/20/2007
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How many losses will it take for the Democratic party to realize : YOU DO NOT NOMINATE CANDIDATES FOR THE PRESIDENCY FROM THE LEGISTLATURE!!!!!!



NOMINATE STATE GOVENORS, MAYORS OR GENERALS!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 12/20/2007
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