Juan Cole: Top 10 Iraq Myths For 2007

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10. Myth: The US public no longer sees Iraq as a central issue in the 2008 presidential campaign.


In a recent ABC News/ Washington Post poll, Iraq and the economy were virtually tied among voters nationally, with nearly a quarter of voters in each case saying it was their number one issue. The economy had become more important to them than in previous months (in November only 14% said it was their most pressing concern), but Iraq still rivals it as an issue!

9. Myth: There have been steps toward religious and political reconciliation in Iraq in 2007. Fact: The government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has for the moment lost the support of the Sunni Arabs in parliament. The Sunnis in his cabinet have resigned. Even some Shiite parties have abandoned the government. Sunni Arabs, who are aware that under his government Sunnis have largely been ethnically cleansed from Baghdad, see al-Maliki as a sectarian politician uninterested in the welfare of Sunnis.

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- research See Profile I'm a Fan of research permalink

Maybe the biggest myth is that the presidential polls are real. Why does Kucinich trounce all others on the online polls, but doesn't break 10% in the "real" polls. What if it's all a media show. All the numbers made up based on back room payola. The best candidate money can buy.

Kucinich is the only candidate consistently working for the 98% of the American people. He has proven as mayor that he is not for sale.

Kucinich is so feared by the MSM that his impeachment of Cheney got zero headlines. Russert was tasked with "Moon beaming" Kucinich, and finally Kucinich was just excluded from the debates, since he was getting huge applause for impeaching Cheney.

Google Kucinich Wins

We can hope HRC will be different then the face she presents to win, but it rarely turns out that way.

Obama's eager choice for a "mentor" in the senate was Joe Lieberman, How can I possibly trust Obama, knowing that?

Strength Through Peace!

Kucinich!

Studs Terkel writes a great article about Kucinich:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020506/terkel

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 12/27/2007
- LORISNJ See Profile I'm a Fan of LORISNJ permalink

Dec 07 is the month with the fewest number of casualties since the war began - is the surge working?

No.

The decrease in casualties is a direct result of changes in military strategy - the units are no longer going out daily on street by street sweeps. They are only going out of the green zone for resupply, VIP visits, and pre-planned selected operations that are supported by air-gun ships, massive fire power, and is set up for limited engagement with the enemy. This way the army can claim a decrease in violence and that the surge worked.

Believe nothing you hear on MSM, they lie everytime.



Strength through Peace - Kucinich '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 12/27/2007
- ProfessorDuh See Profile I'm a Fan of ProfessorDuh permalink

From Mark Twain's "The Mysterious Stranger:"
"I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will
never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful -- as usual -- will shout for the war. The pulpit will -- warily and cautiously -- object -- at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, "It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it." Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity. Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers -- as earlier -- but do not dare to say so.
And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."
*****
Americans are now at the point of putting the blame upon the nation that was attacked, Iraq, and relishing "those conscience-soothing falsities."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 12/27/2007
- NYC07 See Profile I'm a Fan of NYC07 permalink

You forgot the greatest Myth : History will look upon the Bush presidency as one of the greatest that the U.S. has ever had. LOL LOL !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 12/27/2007
- ProfessorDuh See Profile I'm a Fan of ProfessorDuh permalink

Here's my personal bottom line on Iraq. A year ago, I predicted that at that this time the U.S. would still be in the Iraq quicksand with no end in sight, but that 4,000 U.S. troops would be dead, instead of 3,000. Next year, conditions will be the same or worse, and at least 5,000 U.S. troops will be dead. Maybe more.
You can call that "Bush's successful surge." That's all it is: hot-air propaganda to prop up a disastrous invasion and occupation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 12/27/2007
- Grunty1 See Profile I'm a Fan of Grunty1 permalink

Thanks a bunch SirReal1.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/27/2007
- ljsfolly See Profile I'm a Fan of ljsfolly permalink

The media has gone along with the surge is working talk and it is a sad thing to know it has not worked and it isn't changing what a mess the government is and how many still die daily. There is now even more issues for me when bush claimed to take out sadamm for the kurds who were killed by sadamm as really high on the list as they were gassed etc. This helped bush sell his war to those who had prolems finding Iraq on any map. Now bush has helped the turks kill even more kurds and it looks like cival war is no longer confined to the Bahgdad area. The green zone there is now being treated like the rest as they found walls kept no one out who want ted get in there and kill. We need to put our hands in our pockets to keep what little money we have left after this boondoggle and leave. Let them fight their own wars as they have for centuries and the oil bush wants to give his friends should be controled by the middle east not us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 12/27/2007
- research See Profile I'm a Fan of research permalink

Kucinich is the only with a consistent candidate of the American people. He has proven as mayor that he is not for sale.

Kucinich is so feared by the MSM that his impeachment of Cheney got zero headlines. Russert was tasked with "Moon beaming" Kucinich, and finally Kucinich was just excluded from the debates, since he was getting huge applause for impeaching Cheney.

Google Kucinich Wins

We can hope HRC will be different then the face she presents to win, but it rarely turns out that way.

Obama's eager choice for a "mentor" in the senate was Joe Lieberman, How can I possibly trust Obama, knowing that?

Strength Through Peace!

Kucinich!

Studs Terkel writes a great article about Kucinich:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020506/terkel

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 12/27/2007
- Tellmethetruth See Profile I'm a Fan of Tellmethetruth permalink

December 14, 2007
BIDEN-BROWNBACK Measure Calling for U.S. to Support a Federal Iraq Heads to President for his Signature and BIDEN Plan for Iraq Emerges as Consensus, Bipartisan Path toward Ending War

Biden Efforts to Bar Permanent Bases in Iraq and Protect Troops with Mine Resistant Vehicles Also Included in Report

Washington, DC " Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) and Senator Sam Brownback"s (R-KS) legislation calling for the U.S. to support a decentralized Iraq passed today as part of the final Department of Defense Authorization report. The measure " which has garnered overwhelming bipartisan support in both Houses of Congress " calls on the President to make a major strategic shift in the Administration"s pursuit of a political settlement in Iraq.

"It"s time for this President to listen," said Senator Joe Biden. "We now have both sides of the aisle, both sides of the U.S. Capitol, saying to the President: abandon this flawed strategy of yours and change course. Everyone agrees that there is no pure military solution in Iraq. There has to be a political solution and that begs the question: what is it? Today, the Congress answered that question with one voice."...

Senator Biden has also been a long-time advocate of barring the construction of any permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq. Last year, he successfully passed two amendments as part of the Defense Authorization bill and Defense Appropriations bill, which prohibited using any funds to build permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq or to exercise American control over Iraqi oil. Both bills were signed into law, marking the first clear sign from Congress that the American military presence in Iraq would not be open-ended.

Senator Biden's effort to protect our troops by ensuring that the Pentagon builds and deploys more mine resistant vehicles " which are proven to decrease deaths and injuries from roadside bombs by 67 to 80 percent " also was successful.
http://biden.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=289110&&&search_field=Iraq

www.planforiraq.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 12/27/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif permalink

e.e. cumings does use caps for people like Olaf.

i sing of Olaf gkad and big

his wellbelovéd colonel(trig

westpointer most succinctly bred)

took erring Olaf soon in hand;

but--though an host of overjoyed

noncoms(first knocking on the head

him)do through icy waters roll

that helplessness which others stroke

with brushes recently employed

anent this muddy toiletbowl,

while kindred intellects evoke

allegiance per blunt instruments--

Olaf(being to all intents

a corpse and wanting any rag

upon what God unto him gave)

responds,without getting annoyed

"I will not kiss your fucking flag"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 12/26/2007
- researcher See Profile I'm a Fan of researcher permalink

myth number one: americans are not war mongers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 12/26/2007
- AnotherunhappyDemocrat See Profile I'm a Fan of AnotherunhappyDemocrat permalink

Well as we all know, the surge really is about buying time for this administration's disastrous adventure in Iraq, that is enough time so that blame for the inevitable defeat is thrown onto the lap of the next (Democratic) president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 12/26/2007
- SirReal1 See Profile I'm a Fan of SirReal1 permalink

Always glad to help :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 12/26/2007
- SirReal1 See Profile I'm a Fan of SirReal1 permalink

3. Myth: The Iraqi north is relatively quiet and a site of economic growth. Fact: The subterranean battle among Kurds, Turkmen and Arabs for control of the oil-rich Kirkuk province makes the Iraqi north a political mine field. Kurdistan now also hosts the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) guerrillas that sneak over the border and kill Turkish troops. The north is so unstable that the Iraqi north is now undergoing regular bombing raids from Turkey.

2. Myth: Iraq has been "calm" in fall of 2007 and the Iraqi public, despite some grumbling, is not eager for the US to depart. Fact: in the past 6 weeks, there have been an average of 600 attacks a month, or 20 a day, which has held steady since the beginning of November. About 600 civilians are being killed in direct political violence per month, but that number excludes deaths of soldiers and police. Across the board, Iraqis believe that their conflicts are mainly caused by the US military presence and they are eager for it to end.

1. Myth: The reduction in violence in Iraq is mostly because of the escalation in the number of US troops, or "surge."

Fact: Although violence has been reduced in Iraq, much of the reduction did not take place because of US troop activity. Guerrilla attacks in al-Anbar Province were reduced from 400 a week to 100 a week between July, 2006 and July, 2007. But there was no significant US troop escalation in al-Anbar. Likewise, attacks on British troops in Basra have declined precipitously since they were moved out to the airport away from population centers. But this change had nothing to do with US troops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 12/26/2007
- SirReal1 See Profile I'm a Fan of SirReal1 permalink

4. Myth: The Sunni Arab "Awakening Councils," who are on the US payroll, are reconciling with the Shiite government of PM Nuri al-Maliki even as they take on al-Qaeda remnants. Fact: In interviews with the Western press, Awakening Council tribesmen often speak of attacking the Shiites after they have polished off al-Qaeda. A major pollster working in Iraq observed,

' Most of the recent survey results he has seen about political reconciliation, Warshaw said, are "more about [Iraqis] reconciling with the United States within their own particular territory, like in Anbar. . . . But it doesn't say anything about how Sunni groups feel about Shiite groups in Baghdad." Warshaw added: "In Iraq, I just don't hear statements that come from any of the Sunni, Shiite or Kurdish groups that say 'We recognize that we need to share power with the others, that we can't truly dominate.' " ' '

The polling shows that "the Iraqi government has still made no significant progress toward its fundamental goal of national reconciliation."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 12/26/2007
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