Polls don't mean shit and....... anyone that says that voting with computers is ok either has an outright agenda our is outright dumb!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzPXer7946E

A Bonus......... an inside view.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4467655342219448521

What about the divergence between the RAW EXIT POLLS and the reported results? You might also note how there was a widely reported gap -- the votes tallied by hand, Obama won by about 5%. Those tallied by machine, Clinton won by a similar margin (and many more were tallied by machine). This point in particular was cited by Kucinich in demanding a recount, even though apparently chain of custody of the ballots has been lost, so a recount is more than likely to be a whitewash if anything went wrong.

We need to wake up and smell the horse manure in this supposed democracy. At the very least an attitude of healthy skepticism, rather than of obedient expressions of belief, is warranted in a system functioning like this one.

So let's see ALL the figures, and not dismiss the evidence as happened in Votergate 04 in Ohio AND VOTERGATE 05 IN OHIO, reported at Huffpo.......

TO: Degobah January 11, 2008

I tried to get into your reply section where the other replies to are of this website and post, but the page got gray and kept going up and down and couldn't get there. Sorry. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. SFc 94109

TO: Degobah January 11, 2008

The day I saw your post I had a cold and hadn't even gotten to eat my lunch yet so may be I came across a little bit too strong. Still however wheterh what you meant was professional or not I believe it was not professional to say what you said. I gave my address and Court nos. and referred to a very ligitimate book.

I would hope you would check things out first for if you don't believe then people will suffer terribly so. I was a Christian and in Army and I think that says a lot for believing my story. It would be the intelligent way to whether you believe something or not. I am aware that one must try to convince people of a case and I gave names. No one uses names if something is not true. Albert Sanchez,Welfare Analyst, in his 97 letter confirms no Welfare in Florida. Ms. Diane Copeland sent me forms showing shelters charge money to stay at them in Miami. Mr. Herlee and Mrs. Florett Murphy wrote in my scarce food,jobs lawsuit of 97 and they wrote recently that San Diego has no Welfare now. Cleo Walker also wrote in my scarce foods,job Report that No. Indiana has food stamps, but no rent assistance. I quit evil,corrupt jobs as a Christian and discovered all this. People where I live have seen these documents of evidence which I think you should have written to me for before you made judgment so harshly I believe. I take a little back for what I said but not all. I gave you my address. I have also worked most of my life. But please believe what I am saying and check out your neighborhoods so you can know that there is truly scarce foods,jobs resources in Ameirca. I'd gladly send you these documents of evidence of these scarce foods,jobs resources in U.S. Remember too that crime exists and try to believe more next time. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

Huffington 1/11/08
This is a issue because and only because there is no secure, verifiable vote count. Diebold was making ATM machines that print receipts many years before electronic voting, so the only reason cast ballots are not printed it is because Diebold does not want them to be printed. Get serious! It's no different than printing the receipt you get for every purchase you make.

To accept the argument paper ballots take too long to count, you have to block from your mind the fact that banks use machines that count paper money. Dollar ballots could not be printed with the name and even picture of the candidate on them and the very money counting machines already in existence could not be used.

I can think of many ways a secure, verifiable voting system could be established which would allow the vote to be counted instantly. Not having a publicly verifiable voting system destroys democracy and divides the people. The replies to this post are a perfect example. Whether the polls were right or not would be immaterial if we knew with certainty that the votes were counted accurately. The argument is over who won.

It is absurd to spend hundreds of millions on campaigns, have national debates on television, do all that is done to run for president and congress, and then have election results the people have to accept on faith. Would you be willing to get paid once every two or four years and accept on faith the check without being able to figure how the amount was arrived at?

I'm not saying the vote count was or was not accurate. I'm saying that nobody knows. Without a secure, publicly verifiable vote count an election does not take place. Call them what you will, these meetings with unverifiable electronic voting machines are not elections.

Two words people. VOTER FRAUD. I don't think the pollsters interviewed the cheaters before the RECORD TURNOUT.

Whenever you read a headline like: "See how the polls got it wrong", a huge red flag should appear: Diebold! Diebold! Vote manipulation!

Obama should demand a recount.

Isn't it strange that the polls on the Right were dead accurate??

What's hilarious is all the women who said Hillary's little fake emotional scene changed their minds.Guess they didn't want to admit they weren't about to really vote for a black guy,no matter what they were telling the pollsters.

Oops, I guess they were wrong..........Bwa ha ha ha ha ha Bah Ha ha ha ha .

Lot of crow eating around here.

The poll isn't king. The polls are part of the propaganda machine. Who pays for them Who benefits? MSNBC is crestfallen. CNN is having a fit. Arianna is broken hearted. So many hopes were pinned on these polls. Waaaaaaaaaaaaa.

TO: Presidential Candidates for 2008 New Hampshire New England State History Continued

Behind Roger Williams' who gave us our first full Religious Freedom at Providence, Rhode Island reasonable and humane policy the War-cloud melted away. Roger Williams studied many foreign languages where he earned his living which included learning the Indian languages so he could better understand the Indians. He successfully had converted many Indians to the Christian Religion.

He could never have done it by himself so says the historian and had the goodwill and help of the Indians who held him in high regard. It is said of Roger Williams that he had a residue of gentleness and a disarming sanity. Finally in the end the Indians had tribal hatreds that even after banishing Roger Williams in New England the New Englanders asked him for help against the invading Indians. Roger Williams still wanted to help them for he believed God put him there to do so. What beautiful Christian Grace.

Roger Williams upon reaching the jagged shores of Providence, Rhode Island where he wanted to set up his Freedom of Religion Conscience colony says that he had prayed for such a place and that The Good Lord answered his prayer for land thus calling it Providence,Rhode Island. From Roger Williams book by Clifford Smyth,'31 author also of The Gilded Man. Builders of America Series. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

Ah, Handy Allen...Rove does not work for the White House anymore.