Shaken Clinton Camp Prepares For Trench Warfare After NH

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First Posted: 01- 6-08 08:56 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama.

The former First Lady is planning to fight Obama in South Carolina on January 26, and in the gargantuan nationwide primary on Tuesday, February 5 -- with contests in 19 states, including New York, California, New Jersey, Georgia, Minnesota, Massachusetts, and Colorado. If she remains competitive, Clinton's plan is to continue to compete in Louisiana on February 9, in Virginia and Maryland on February 12, in Wisconsin on February 19, in Ohio on March 4 -- and beyond, if necessary.

In an approach redolent of Walter Mondale's 1984 "Where's the Beef?" tactic against Gary Hart, Clinton has adopted the less memorable slogan "Rhetoric vs. Results, Talk vs. Action."

The Clinton campaign is sparing no effort to pressure the media to lean on Obama's perceived vulnerabilities. Looking to leverage Obama's slender resume, a Clinton operative argued to HuffPost that the campaign will be able to demonstrate that "Obama is just not a plausible person in this environment of international peril," and that the longer the primary campaign can be extended, the better chance Clinton will have to prove that "there is not even a second level to Obama, there is no depth."

The results of this gambit are far from certain. Many political observers here see Hillary on the ropes. "I think Iowa was the best she is going to do. Now she has the stink of a loser on her," said an official from the upper echelons of the 2004 Democratic campaign. In the upcoming states, voters "are just now starting to pay attention, and all they know is that he [Obama] is a winner and she's a loser."

Political analyst Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute warned, "Tactical maneuvering at this point is of limited value, but all [Clinton] may be able to do for the moment is to try tactical stuff, and lash herself to the mast to withstand the [Obama] wave."

Like Mondale in 1984, Clinton is configuring her campaign to win in states where independents cannot vote. "Clinton got killed among independents and those few Republicans who crossed over," an Iowa operative noted about last Thursday's caucuses. After this Tuesday's New Hampshire primary, where independents can cast ballots in either the Democratic or Republican contest, "We are just going to go to the big Democratic states with closed primaries" says a member of the Clinton inner circle.

Of the upcoming nineteen February 5 primaries and caucuses, however, ten are "open" (meaning that independents can vote for a Democrat) and only nine are "closed" (meaning independents are barred).

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The question all over Democratic circles today is, what can Hillary do? Is time running out? The consensus is that she has "a real uphill fight -- a tough pull," according to observers.

The Clinton campaign counters that it is banking on the support of voters with "deep and ingrained loyalty" to the Democratic party and to the presidency of Bill Clinton -- especially on the support of poor to lower-middle class Democratic voters who are seeking government aid to pay for health care and other necessities, and who can be convinced that Clinton is best equipped to win enactment of such policies.

Many of these voters, however, are black, and African American voters have, over the course of the past year, been moving steadily to Obama. While both Bill and Hillary Clinton have had substantial support in the African-American community - Bill Clinton got roughly 90 percent of the black vote in his two presidential elections -- there could be an Obama groundswell among minority voters. "If Obama wins two white states in a row, that is going to send a signal to African Americans around the country. The African-American population is going to be excited beyond belief by the prospect of a black president," says Ornstein.

"The sixty-four thousand dollar question," according to a Democratic operative, is "whether whites will continue to vote for Obama once the novelty wears off."

Most of those interviewed for this story do not believe the novelty will wear off.

"If you put the three elements together, Obama's appeal to independents, some cross-over Republicans, and combine that with a really energized African American community, that is a pretty powerful new math for the Democrats," says Bill Carrick, a California Democratic consultant. "I think he [Obama] has got a pretty interesting coalition for the general election."

Emory University political scientist Merle Black notes that Obama is "not presenting himself as a Jesse Jackson, he is not an Al Sharpton; he is presenting himself as a Democrat who happens to be African American. There are very few white voters who would not find him very likeable." If Obama does have trouble with white voters, Black said it will be because of his "liberal record more than race."

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A number of Clinton operatives and supporters report privately that her campaign organization is beset with internal turmoil, and that Mark Penn remains in serious danger of losing his position as the senior and dominant strategist. "There are a lot of people saying Mark Penn is going to be thrown under the bus," said one source.

On the other hand, there are dissidents from this view. Norm Ornstein told HuffPost, "I am not one of those who joins in the pillorying of Mark Penn. They played the hand they had, and that hand was built around experience and nostalgia for the Clinton administration. If they had switched to a message of change six months ago, it would not have been any more credible then than it is now."

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Clinton's calculation that she can best confront Obama in the coming closed Democratic primaries is based in part on detailed analysis of the Iowa results.

The Iowa entrance polls conducted for all the major television networks - including ABC, CBS, NBC, AND CNN -- show that registered Democrats were more supportive of Clinton than either independents or the small number of Republicans who chose to participate in the Democratic caucus.

She virtually tied Obama among registered Democrats (31-32), while decisively losing independents (17-41) and Republicans (10-44). John Edwards beat her by slightly smaller, but still substantial, margins among Republicans and independents, while losing to her among Democrats.

In addition to the fact that ten of the Super Tuesday states are conducting open primaries or caucuses, there is a major short term problem: the next primary on January 26 in South Carolina is not only open, but has a large African American population likely to be drawn to Obama.

In past Democratic primary contests, the kind of coalition Obama has put together - well-educated, culturally liberal, and relatively affluent whites, eschewing the "common touch" -- was inadequate to produce victories -- not only in the case of Hart, but also in Paul Tsongas' 1992's race against Bill Clinton and Bill Bradley's race against Al Gore in 2000.

In the current election, however, Obama has at least preliminarily shown the ability to cobble together a coalition bridging the gap between upscale voters and minorities to form a winning primary-caucus alliance.

Obama is capitalizing on one of the most powerful trends in the composition of the Democratic electorate: the conversion from the GOP of growing legions of relatively affluent, suburban and urban, socially tolerant white professionals and so-called knowledge workers - ranging from pre-school teachers and data entry technicians to nuclear physicists -- who have become a major constituency, and a driving force in Democratic Party policy making.

This movement of what some have termed "the creative class" to the Democrats was sharply accelerated during the administration of Bill Clinton, and has grown stronger during the second half of the Bush years, as opposition to the war, to Bush's conservative social policies and to administration reluctance to deal with such issues as global warming has given Democrats a major boost in support. Whether Mrs. Clinton, Edwards, or Obama will benefit most from this restructured center-left coalition is not yet clear.

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In private, some of Clinton's supporters are deeply disdainful of Obama. "He is the candidate of the 'identity left'," said one, dismissively, angered by what he sees as Obama's claim that the "he's built a new majority that rises above partisanship, that somehow through his magical presence, we can rise above conflict." This Clinton supporter described Obama as afflicted with naïve idealism similar to that of Jimmy Carter.

The burden on Clinton will be, according to this strategist, to show that "this guy [Obama] is amateur hour, that it's all glitz. He thinks you can get there but you don't have to go through anything. It's dreamy, but it mainly appeals to independents."

Clinton's task has been further complicated by the continued presence in the race of John Edwards. Edwards has taken the unexpected role in New Hampshire of acting as Obama's attack dog against the New York Senator, allowing Obama to remain above the fray.

While Edwards, who beat Clinton by three-tenths of a percentage point in Iowa, currently appears destined to finish third here on Tuesday, he did force Clinton onto the defensive in Saturday's debate, calling her the advocate of the "status quo." He escalated the conflict today, charging that Clinton and her campaign "have no conscience" in turning a blind eye to the human suffering that has motivated his campaign, distorting his record of commitment to help the ill and injured with proposals for more comprehensive, broadly available medical treatment.

Edwards contended on the campaign trail this morning that he is determined to stay in the fight all the way to the Democratic convention. In the latest CNN-WMUR poll of New Hampshire Democrats, however, Edwards has lost ground, falling to16 percent, well behind Obama's 39 percent, and Clinton's 29 percent.

Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama. The former First Lady is plannin...
Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama. The former First Lady is plannin...
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- Freddy334 I'm a Fan of Freddy334 2 fans permalink

True. Obama and Hillary are corporate stooges like Bushie, Cheney, Rudy, etc. Edwards is the real Democrat in the race. Kucinich is good but he cannot win. Edwards can win because he is against two Senators who keep funding a corporate oil war.

Edwards 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 01/09/2008

Clinton appears to be-dare I say (?)- establishment. She's got some makeover to do if she's to catch up. The aforementioned stragedy may work for her, but I seriously doubt it. She needs to come across as a brassy, bare knuckles, tell it like it is broad like Streissand or Bette Midler. What did Mondale in was his pukey smile. Ms. Clinton can't to go on as before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 01/08/2008
- Swift2 I'm a Fan of Swift2 9 fans permalink

I heard a kid on the radio news -- young Independent from NH -- say he had decided to vote for Obama. He had worked hard and done a lot of reading to decide who to vote for, Obama or McCain. I wonder, what are these vaunted Independents but morons under any other name? Hey, kid, I thought, do you realize how different those two people are? Have you heard about conservatism? What McCain promises to do about "spending," about the Bush tax cuts? That he's promised to stay in Iraq for 100 years?
Vote Obama, the candidate of the Weekly Standard and David Brooks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/08/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 248 fans permalink

Don't believe the MSM polls!

Kucinich is sweeping the online polls. You know: the informed voters. The blogosphere: US!

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/resources/polls/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 01/07/2008

The country needs a real leader. One with vision, character, extraordinary people skills and feet firmly rooted in the reality of life in American. We also need a leader who can go out into the world and heal some of the relationships that have been poisoned by the current administration and in doing so position the US as a good responsible global citizen. Obama can do that for us. Experience can be hired.

Hill is a divider - which we most definitely DO NOT need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 01/07/2008

When gender is the predominant criterium, Hillary is the candidate of choice. When a progressive leadership is desired, she is found wanting.

A Hillary/Huckabee election is the perfect scenario for a Bloomberg presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 01/07/2008
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It's a little late for that now isn't it, sHillary?

Two years ago Molly Ivins wrote - I Will not Vote For Hillary Clinton. It's even MORE revelant today!
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/1/2006/1304

Edwards/Obama '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 01/07/2008

Quoting the article, “a Clinton operative argued to HuffPost that the campaign will be able to demonstrate that "Obama is just not a plausible person in this environment of international peril,"
Put the tape in rewind. Per a May 25, 2007 MSNBC article, “Hillary and the 2002 NIE”,
"A new book's revelation that Hillary Clinton did not read the CIA National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi WMD before voting on war authorization should not be a surprise. Most congressmen and senators didn't… But only a few ever did. No more than six senators and a handful of House members read beyond the five-page National Intelligence Estimate executive summary, according to several congressional aides responsible for safeguarding the classified material…But even if Clinton wasn't alone in not reading the NIE, the question arises: Did she do everything possible to have the best information on Iraq WMD before casting her war authorization vote”?
What about her recent Kyle-Lieberman Iran vote, with the Iran nuclear threat later discounted by the NIE reports? And what’s her most recent claim of “would never have taken us to war in Iraq” after 9/11 objectively based on? So, it’s OK for the current administration to have taken us into Iraq because she did vote in favor of authorizing it though not reading the NIE, but she wouldn’t have done it as President? Isn’t the legislative branch, of which she is a member, supposed to be a check and balance on the executive branch? And isn’t a vote the same thing as agreement? And let’s not forget her recent rebuke of Sen. Obama's statement regarding Al Queda in Pakistan. She chastised him for actually proposing to do something objectively about the organization responsible for the deaths of over 3,000 of our fellow citizens, based on actionable intelligence.
What "Plausible person" are we talking about?"
The Clinton campaign desperation is getting old, and these continuing arguments attempting to undermine the credibility of Sen. Obama are IMO full of holes. And now it’s apparently a desperate appeal to super delegates, IMO diminishing the voices of the “people”.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 01/07/2008
- OhgReaTone I'm a Fan of OhgReaTone 5 fans permalink

Clinton owns the issues - but Obama owns the mood. That is where the race will be decided.
Ohg
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/07/general-mood-versus-individual-issues/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 01/07/2008
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Twenty one states vote on February fifth, including California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and Georgia. Unless Obama meets with some huge MSM momentum killer, we'll know if Hillary is out on 2-6-08. As for the GOP, it's almost a moot point, especially if it's Obama/Edwards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 01/07/2008

prepares for "trench warfare".....how many candidates repsective campaigns have "surged"....the language of war permeates our society

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 01/07/2008
- asnevitt I'm a Fan of asnevitt 4 fans permalink

"bridging the gap between upscale voters and minorities"

This phrase jumped out at me. The mixed use of social class for the first group and race for the second group is disturbing. Some "upscale voters" are "minorities". Inherent in this statement is the embedding of the concept that lowscale equals minority. Not only does it reinforce stereotypes, it's poor demographic analysis that could lead to large errors in understanding of what's happening socially.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 01/07/2008
- ebbtide I'm a Fan of ebbtide 16 fans permalink

Funny, but Obama's camp does not give me the impression that he is in a "war" or in the trenches. He never has. Hillary on the other hand, is just plain itching for the fun of a war or a smear it seems. Unbecoming a presidential nominee. And something else I notice in my trips around the net. Her supporters sound bitter, full of wild accusations of sexism, when there is none visible, think they are Boadica perhaps , and whenever I read of their strident support of Hillary and then look at her face, that personna of her supporters is transferred to her face and she becomes bitter, vindictive, angry as they.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 01/07/2008
- AgathaX I'm a Fan of AgathaX 13 fans permalink
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Unfortunately, Hillary has relied on people who have told her what she wants to hear and not what she needed to hear.

On NPR this a.m. she was interviewed and pressed to back up her claim that Obama was all talk and no action. She:
(1) Dodged the question, so it had to be asked again.
(2) Groused about Edwards supposedly misleading people regarding whether the patients bill of rights ever became law.
(3) Finally got around to saying something about Obama that isn't coming immediately to mind, as I was so ticked at her inability to answer a question. Oh, yes. She criticized him for the reform he claimed prevented lobbiests from buying lunch for members of congress and reiterated the moderator's comment that the reform required that people be standing rather than sitting to lunch with a lobbiest. She, of all people, gets why that is a meaningful distinction. Pretending that she doesn't is disingenuous in the extreme. Moreover, what did she do to curtail the power of lobbiest? She certainly wasn't arguing that she had done more than Obama to curtail the power of lobbiests.

The truth is that Hillary was never inevitable, or even particularly likely. She is fighting yesterday's battles with yesterday's cynicism. That is actually sad, because even if she could not have won, she could have contributed much more effectively to the current debate. But, it never occured to her (and possibly still hasn't) that cynicism is out. We've seen that movie. It made some money, but it wasn't very good and the reviews sucked.

Hillary can certainly redeem herself by eventually being gracious and going on to an effective Senate career. I fully expect that Obama will campaign for her in NY in her next Senate election. Bill is going to need to redeem himself too. Ironically, I think that may the harder task.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 01/07/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

Obama is still a kid, a pencil-necked geek. He needs to gain some weight, get some real-world experience, and come back in 8 years and he may be presidential material.


Come on kids....obama is simply part of the pop culture in this country, you know like britney and lindsay and steroids in baseball....The neocons will not even have to use the race card to beat him...just the cocaine card and the muslim card will do the trick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 01/07/2008
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