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Giuliani A Dud On The Campaign Trail

January 7, 2008 02:35 PM


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As his numbers remain low and stagnant in the New Hampshire polls, Rudy Giuliani's campaign stops have done little to revive his souring presidential ambitions.

On Monday, the former New York City mayor traveled to Hudson in south New Hampshire to speak with voters at the Wattannick Grange Hall. The venue was not promising. At first glance, there appeared to be as many attendees (less than100) as there were members of the press. Younger voters were virtually non-existent. By one count, five were in attendance, the majority of whom appeared to be under the voting age. Journalists who have long covered Giuliani said such dynamics were not uncommon.

And Giuliani did little to inspire. Speaking behind a blue and red backdrop - "Tested. Ready. Now." - Giuliani spoke in the post-colonial community center for approximately fifty minutes. Topics ranged from tax policy, terrorism, and immigration.

"I'm good at doing things that people say are impossible," the New York Republican said. "The more impossible you tell me it is to be energy independent, the more possible it is that I will make it happen; same thing with ending illegal immigration."

The most dramatic moment of the whole affair - save for the "Rudy" movie theme music that accompanied the mayor's entrance and exit - came when he opened up the discussion for questions and answers.

"Why don't you end baby killing, when will you end baby killing?" screamed an attendee from the back, before being forced to leave the building.

Giuliani was undeterred. The same heckler had appeared at his events before.

Minutes later another attendee asked the former mayor how he could bridge the partisan divide in Washington.

"You deal with partisanship in two ways," Giuliani said, "You look at things you can accomplish together. You look for where there is the common ground." He then grabbed a campaign pamphlet detailing his 12-point vision for America. Looking through the list for a topic where he thought he could forge a bipartisan consensus, Giuliani settled on energy independence. "You have to make it an American achievement rather than a Republican or a Democratic achievement," he said. "And you have to talk about it differently." From there, he went on to criticize Democrats for wanting to raise taxes.

By and large, the mayor received a friendly but tepid response. Susan Adie, an Independent from Hudson who traditionally votes Republican said she enjoyed the mayor but was not persuaded. "I didn't get that emotional connection," she said. "You have to find that candidate most connected to you. And Rudy didn't do that today."

The most recent Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll has Giuliani registered at 9 percent in the New Hampshire polls; good enough for fifth place behind Sen. John McCain's leading 34 percent. Giuliani finished sixth in the Iowa caucus but has insisted that his strategy is to win the later, larger states in the primary process.

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- mijumom See Profile I'm a Fan of mijumom permalink

I want to just vent. I too lived in New York when he was Mayor. We had a mosquito scare (2 elderly and a few birds died) so he assured us he would win against those damned mosquitos by dropping malathion all over the frickin' place and telling us to go about our business. I was pregnant and stuck inside trying to avoid breathing the crap in. Everyone hated him. He looks like a rat and speaks like a scarier and more educated Bush...uggh, the thought of him becoming president makes me want to vomit. Please, tell me it is an impossibility.

Done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 01/08/2008
- Phidippides See Profile I'm a Fan of Phidippides permalink

Gee, I guess it WOULD be a challenge to make any kind of impression, much less to inspire, when you're speaking from BEHIND the backdrop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 01/07/2008
- LyricalLexicon See Profile I'm a Fan of LyricalLexicon permalink

Giuliani has the charisma of a cooked ham. I am glad that his campaign is sinking like the Titanic. I couldn't stand him when I was living in NYC while he was mayor. I'm sick of him pushing this myth depicting himself as the "hero of 9/11", he showed up for some photo ops, moved some dirt with a shovel, and talked a good game, that's it. It's about time the rest of America sees him as the fraud that he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 01/07/2008
- Caprityme See Profile I'm a Fan of Caprityme permalink

I still think the American Conservative Magazine best captured Rudy when they put him on their January 14 cover in a fascist brown shirt get up. Think about it: If even a conservative publication (although not a Neocon rag) can see through Rudy's bluster and BS, then you can bet voters will.

Mayor 9/11 is going nowhere fast, thank God. He is the scariest candidate of any them, Ron Paul and his libertarian rantings, included. Rudy with his hand on the nuclear button scares me like Martin Sheen did as the presidential candidate in that excellent Steven King movie, "The Dead Zone." Thank God for Christopher Walken in that movie (he was able to see the future and unmask the crazy Sheen character), and Thank God for Politico and other blogs and reporters who finally unmasked Rudy's meglomania and twisted judgement and ethics. Rudy can go back to representing questionable clients like Purdue Pharma (OxyContin) and Qtar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 01/07/2008
- KarlRoves3rdchin See Profile I'm a Fan of KarlRoves3rdchin permalink

Pat Robertson and war criminals¦.and now Pat Robertson endorses Rudy "the Rat" Ghouliani for president of the US¦we all know Rudy is a 9/11 co-conspirator¦

War Crimes Trial Opens With Grisly Video http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010708R.shtml
Mike Corder of The Associated Press reports: "The war crimes trial of Charles Taylor, Liberia's former president, heard its first testimony Monday and saw video of victims telling of being sexually assaulted or dismembered by rebels who plundered West African diamond fields."

According to a June 2, 1999, article in The Virginian-Pilot,Taylor had extensive business dealings with televangelist Pat Robertson. According to the article, Taylor gave Robertson (who also had business dealings with dictator Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire) the rights to mine for diamonds in Liberia's mineral-rich countryside. According to two Operation Blessing pilots who reported this incident to the state of Virginia for investigation in 1994, Robertson used his Operation Blessing planes to haul diamond-mining equipment to Robertson's mines in Liberia, despite the fact that Robertson was telling his 700 Club viewers that the planes were sending relief supplies to the victims of the genocide in Rwanda. The subsequent investigation by the state of Virginia concluded that Robertson diverted his ministry's donations to the Liberian diamond-mining operation, but Attorney General of Virginia Mark Earley blocked any potential prosecution against Robertson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 01/07/2008
- desertdweller See Profile I'm a Fan of desertdweller permalink

I used to go to this Irish workingman's bar in Pawtucket, RI. There was an older fellow that sat at the end of the bar, night after night. When he wasn't prattling on about the Red Sawx, he was muttering about being a Pearl Harbor survivor. Turns out that he was in Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, but no where near the action. Somehow, I visualize Rudy Giuliani in much the same way, twenty years from now, sitting at the bar in some Knights of Columbus hall, muttering to himself "9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 01/07/2008
- bronceye See Profile I'm a Fan of bronceye permalink

Will he become desperate (or disparate) enough to start saying 18/22. Twice as scary as 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 01/07/2008
- Openeyes See Profile I'm a Fan of Openeyes permalink

The only one in the race more arrogant the Hillary - ignore the small states (because they don't really count, like all the "little people") and just go for the big prizes.

In WWII the Japanese Navy had a strategy of waiting to "strike the decivisive blow," waiting for the moment to engage and secure overwhelming victory. While waiting for this opportunity, that navy was slowly decimated, until their premier battleships, which had hardly seen any action at all, were finally forced into engagements where they were out numbered and out gunned, and were destroyed.

So much for ignoring the little battles while you wait to win the big ones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 01/07/2008
- DietrichMoody See Profile I'm a Fan of DietrichMoody permalink

Well Bill O'reilly, said that Guiani like Hillary Clinton, shouldn't be concerned with Iowa and NH, because they are concerned with the National Polls and the big MACHINE of theirs is going to take over and kick in, once the California and Florida primaries are held and they are supposedly going to be OK

BECAUSE GULIANI HE'S AMERICA'S MAYOR, PEOPLE. understand that. He saved us from 9/11 and was behind the WELL COORDINATED response. He knows terrorism because HE EXPERIENCE IT!!...

ha, yeah right!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 01/07/2008
- kempis See Profile I'm a Fan of kempis permalink

How is Rudy doing in the polls in general. Anyone know? Isn't he in danger of being Left Behind--in a very real way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 01/07/2008
- mychris52 See Profile I'm a Fan of mychris52 permalink

Just maybe if he started telling the truth he could do better, although I think that is impossible for him. You can tell he is lying when his lips are moving.
I happened to catch a few minutes of the republican debate. It amazes me that Giuliani is still trumpeting that the American Health Care is the best in the world. A little education for Mr. Giuliani, American health care ranks 42nd if life expenctancy. The infant mortality rate, another reliable yardstick by which health care can be measured is better in 27 other countries we rank 28th lagging behind Cuba & the Czech republic, I also find it disappointing that Sam Donaldson
was ignorant of these statistics given that he was going to ask about health care


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 01/07/2008
- mychris52 See Profile I'm a Fan of mychris52 permalink

I happened to catch a few minutes of the republican debate. It amazes me that Giuliani is still trumpeting that the American Health Care is the best in the world. A little education for Mr. Giuliani, American health care ranks 42nd in life expenctancy. The infant mortality rate, another reliable yardstick by which health care can be measured is better in 27 other countries we rank 28th lagging behind Cuba & the Czech republic,
I find it incredible that Sam Donaldson was so ignorant of these statistics, given the fact that he was going to ask questions about health care. and allows these hacks to perpetuate these myths about American Health care





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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 01/07/2008
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