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Clinton Allies May Dump Millions Into Anti-Obama Group

January 8, 2008 12:25 PM


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Manchester, N.H. -- A panicked and cash-short Clinton campaign is seriously considering giving up on the Nevada caucuses and on the South Carolina primary in order to regroup and to save resources for the massive 19-state mega-primary on February 5.

At the same time, some top independent expenditure groups supporting Clinton have been exploring the creation of an anti-Obama "527 committee" that would take unlimited contributions from a few of Clinton's super-rich backers and from a handful of unions to finance television ads and direct mail designed to tarnish the Illinois Senator's image.

The Clinton campaign has raised over $100 million, but has "only" $15 to $20 million left. It faces donor reluctance to give more in the face of the Iowa defeat and the prospect of a second loss in New Hampshire today. Even worse, the campaign fears defections among those fundraisers who want to be with a winner and who might be easily persuaded to support Barack Obama.

While the amount of money Clinton has would seem to be more than enough by past standards, the cost of competing in the February 5 states -- including New York, California, Georgia, New Jersey, Minnesota, Colorado, Tennessee, Massachusetts and Arizona - is unprecedented in the history of American primaries. She will face, in turn, an extremely well-funded Obama campaign, whose cash register right now doesn't stop ringing as donations are coming in over the Internet, by mail and in checks handed over in person.

The decision whether to take on Obama in Nevada and South Carolina will likely be made within the next 12 hours.

Both states look like probable defeats for Clinton. South Carolina has a large black electorate that is now likely to back Obama by wide margins, and the Democratic primary is open to all voters, including independents and Republicans, two other groups that in Iowa backed Obama decisively. Clinton had looked fully competitive in Nevada, but Obama's victories have boosted his chances there and now he appears almost certain to get the endorsement of the powerful Culinary Workers Union.

Arguing against pulling out of South Carolina and Nevada are Clinton aides who say that bowing out now would guarantee four defeats in a row - Iowa, N.H. lost at the ballot box, and South Carolina. and Nevada given up by default - would be a disastrous precursor to the February 5 contests. "You've got to put some points on the board. You can't just let the other guys run up the score and expect to come back in the fourth quarter," one Clinton aide said.

Three groups conducting independent expenditure campaigns in behalf of Clinton - Emily's List, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) - have explored the possibility of trying to put together a multi-million dollar effort privately dubbed the Anybody-But-Obama 527 Committee, but they have run into problems finding any Democratic operative willing to become the director of a campaign against the man who now is the odds-on favorite to become the party's nominee.

"You might make some good money in the short term, but your chances of getting any Democratic contracts in the future, especially if Obama wins, would be zilch," said one operative. "I wouldn't go there." The effectiveness of a 527 that goes negative was demonstrated by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which attacked John Kerry's war record in the 2004 campaign.

Spokespersons for both Emily's List and the AFT both adamantly denied to the Huffington Post any involvement with plans to create an anti-Obama 527 group.

But in fact, the complexities of federal election law have made it illegal for them to be involved. The discussions about the possible creation of such a 527 committee were held among people active in the separate independent expenditure (IE) campaigns conducted by AFT, Emily's List and AFSCME. By law, there can be no communication between those working on an IE campaign and officials of the parent organization putting the cash into the campaign. Officials of AFT and Emily's list acknowledged that they have had no contact with the staff members running their IE drives.

AFSCME President Gerald W. McEntee declared: "We're not about the business of swift-boating any Democratic candidate. We will not be party to any kind of effort of this type. Our campaign is about promoting Hillary Clinton - not tearing down any other candidate. Our number one priority is having the strongest Democratic candidate to take back the White House in November."

Sources familiar with the discussions about the creation of an anti-Obama 527 said that some of the Clinton campaign's major fundraisers have separately been exploring another similar proposal, but have not gotten very far yet.

"These things (527s) are not that easy to get rolling. There is a long way between talking and doing," said one source familiar with setting up 527 operations.

Federal tax law requires regular disclosure of both the donors to 527 organizations and the expenditures they make, so it is not possible for such committees to keep secret the identity of supporters and staff.

Check out HuffPost's comprehensive on-the-ground New Hampshire coverage here.

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- Progress08 See Profile I'm a Fan of Progress08 permalink

And you wonder why we shouldn't vote for Hillary. I'm willing to bet she'd destroy the Democratic Party to get her way. She can't be wrong; she's suffered through Bill's infidelities and the gruelling punishment of being a public figure with a Republican controlled media and she's angry. She feels she's paid her dues and has a grandiose sense of entitlement, and this upstart..., this nobody.... from nowhere is beating her. She's leaned republican (don't forget she grew up in a Republican household and supported Goldwater) to look moderate only to find out that we don't want a moderate. It'll take a progressive to fix this country and only too late will she realize that she never really "got it".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 01/11/2008
- roninracer See Profile I'm a Fan of roninracer permalink

Perhaps the title should read "Clinton Allies Dump Millions into Diebold"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 01/09/2008
- DudeE See Profile I'm a Fan of DudeE permalink

Come on man - why do you even keep writing this stuff?

Nowhere in your entire article do you even hint at the source of your information.

"...privately dubbed the Anybody-But-Obama 527 Committee"

Privately dubbed by whom? You?

Sorry but this is the lamest form of journalism.

"Spokespersons for both Emily's List and the AFT both adamantly denied to the Huffington Post any involvement with plans..."

Yet you'll persist in posting such an article despite not having a single source to support the premise?

It's a very sad era in journalism when 'sources familiar with' is all it takes to write whatever you damn well please... shameful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 01/09/2008
- Bonzo See Profile I'm a Fan of Bonzo permalink

"The effectiveness of a 527 that goes negative was demonstrated by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which attacked John Kerry's war record in the 2004 campaign."

They were "effective" because their allegations were substantive and, if not outright true, extremely believable and backed by documentation and sworn testimony.

Mr. Edsall (and most from the left) have yet to understand that cardboard swiftboats don't float...at least not very long.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 01/09/2008
- heyjoe See Profile I'm a Fan of heyjoe permalink

FACT...yes we can and yes we will! Obama has the American message! New Englanders have had their say, but they haven't had mine. This only means that we must redouble our efforts and make the case to our communities about the necessity of voting for the future not the past. We have the power to make the future reflect the values of who we are as Americans. America...America...YES WE CAN! Obama 08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 01/09/2008
- whamtwo See Profile I'm a Fan of whamtwo permalink

EDSAL, hope U have not given up your hack license. "Allies MAY Dump.... U write a column on MAY.... Good old speculation. How about going out and get a story with FACTS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 01/08/2008
- shblogger See Profile I'm a Fan of shblogger permalink

I used to think of Huffpost as a good source for opinion and news, but the bias displayed against Hillary is just a little too much for my taste. Somehow, Clinton donors are "super rich", and there are just "a few unions" financing her evil attack against Obama(note that Obama is not being supported by any unions, really, which, in my book, is not a sign that he a great liberal hope), while Obama's cash is "coming in over the Internet, by mail and in checks handed over in person". I guess that Obama money is good money and Clinton money is bad money?

And the rumors about the 527 attacking Obama are just that, rumors. Same with John Edwards alleged 527 attack ads - the Huffpost commentators were foaming at the mouth before any commercials were ever broadcast.

I am not a Clinton supporter, but when I see such bias I just get turned off and turn to Slate. Bye bye...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 01/08/2008
- Cubancoffee See Profile I'm a Fan of Cubancoffee permalink

Is this writing deliberately slanted or is Edsall just swept up in the passion of the moment? "Panicked"? "privately dubbed Anybody-But-Obama" (by whom)? "Have explored the possibility of trying to" (and perhaps discovering that they couldn't?

Is there anything illegal/immoral about setting up a 527? Does setting up a 527 automatically equate to swift-boating? If you are a Clinton supporter and Obama proves to be your main competition, wouldn't setting up an "anti-Obama" (Edsall's words) 527 be sensible? And, finally, don't those who are said to be involved at the top deny it at the bottom?

Slow down and take a breath, people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 01/08/2008
- OhgReaTone See Profile I'm a Fan of OhgReaTone permalink

Hillary has won New Hampshire - which makes this post sort of silly - don't you think. Go Girl!
Ohg.
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/09/hey-hillary-you-go-girl/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 01/08/2008
- patriotscholar See Profile I'm a Fan of patriotscholar permalink

If these groups resort to such tactics, they will be no better than the "swift-boat" groups that denigrated John Kerry. It is an ill-advised move. Even if it guaranteed Hillary the nomination, it would have been misdirected and should be employed instead against the rival republican nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 01/08/2008
- Mort See Profile I'm a Fan of Mort permalink

Mr. Edsall, how come your name is always more prominent than the headline or news? Normal byline not enough credit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 01/08/2008
- Rubiconski See Profile I'm a Fan of Rubiconski permalink

Obama is a man for his time, like FDR and JFK before him. He loves his fellow man (and woman) -- all of them, and he listens. If he can triumph over the formidable Clinton machine, he can surely outfox the ham-handed swift-boaters and GOP dirty tricks/character assassination squads.

Game, set, match: Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 01/08/2008
- Rubiconski See Profile I'm a Fan of Rubiconski permalink

Hillary is as power hungry and out of touch with the people as the Republicans. In 2004 we talked about the huge difference in the polls and the supposed election results. Polls aren't that far off. If Hillary goes from the 12% underdog in the polls to the winner in New Hampshire I will know that something is fishy. Maybe they're right and the choices are made regardless of our vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 01/08/2008
- Indyfromny See Profile I'm a Fan of Indyfromny permalink

Step back from all this for a moment...


A Clinton, A Female Clinton is leading in nationwide polls....


What are most Americans saying to the Bush legacy?

Fucking, up yours.

I have not been a Hillary supporter but I have to admit it would be gratifying to see W., head held down walking out of the white house as the Clintons walk back in..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 01/08/2008
- NotaBeliever See Profile I'm a Fan of NotaBeliever permalink

I think it would be wrong to tarnish the name of Obama in an effort to shine the name of Clinton. He *IS* one of the bright and shining stars of the party. He should not be wasted under any circumstance. This is all very distressing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 01/08/2008
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