Candidates Face Off in Nev., SC Contests

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Republican presidential hopefuls faced off in sleepy Nevada caucuses and a hard-fought South Carolina primary on Saturday, a pair of contests likely to winnow an unwieldy field of rivals.

Democrats shared the stage in Nevada, with Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama vying for a victory and the campaign momentum that goes with it.

Alone among the Republican contenders, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas aired television ads in Nevada, and the libertarian-leaning Texan looked for his best showing of the campaign season. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney campaigned in the state, hoping to add to his earlier victories in the Wyoming caucuses as well as last Tuesday's Michigan primary.

Nevada offered more delegates but far less appeal to the Republican candidates than South Carolina, a primary that has gone to the party's eventual nominee every four years since 1980.

That made it a magnet for former Tennessee Fred Thompson, who staked his candidacy on a strong showing, as well as for Romney, Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

McCain, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, appealed to a large population of military veterans in South Carolina, and stressed his determination to rein in federal spending as he worked to avenge a bitter defeat in the 2000 primary.

Huckabee reached out to evangelical Christian voters, hoping to rebound from a string of disappointing showings since his victory in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses.

Romney campaigned on a pledge to help restore the state's economy, much as he did in winning the Michigan primary earlier in the week.

Alone among the major Republican contenders, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani skipped the day's events. He camped out in Florida, the first of the big states to vote, with a winner-take-all primary on Jan. 29.

A wild card in the South Carolina race was the wintry weather. In northern areas of the state, snow was forecast and expected to intensify through the day, with accumulations reaching 3 inches. Any snow tends to bring South Carolina to a slow crawl at best. The state has little snow removal equipment and during a recent light snowfall, some schools closed or delayed opening before the first flakes fell.

Bad weather and some last-minute push polling could put a damper on turnout for the primary, with first-time voters, senior citizens, independents and those still wavering staying home, according to political experts.

Huckabee, greeting voters at a polling place, said he was worried turnout in the more conservative upstate regions was being discouraged by the poor weather.

"You never know how that's going to affect people who will go your way or the other way," he told reporters. "And obviously, the upstate is an important part of South Carolina for us, and if it starts snowing up there, that's something we hope doesn't happen. But we have to take the weather what it is. We don't get to choose.

"I just hope that our voters are so committed that it doesn't affect the fact that they're going to go out and vote, because they believe this is a mission," Huckabee said.

If the Republican race had no clear front-runner, the Democrats had two, and little room in the campaign spotlight for the third man on the ballot, former Sen. John Edwards.

Obama and Clinton both ran all-out in Nevada, even though only 25 delegates are at stake.

Obama won the backing of an influential Culinary Workers Union. That, in turn, led to an unsuccessful lawsuit by some of Clinton's supporters who hoped to ban specially arranged caucuses along the Las Vegas Strip that could draw thousands of unionized casino and hotel workers.

Obama, hoping to become the first black president, spent nearly $1 million in television commercials. Clinton, campaigning to become the country's first woman chief executive, ran nearly $700,000 worth of commercials, and a union group backed her with nearly $100,000 on an independent ad campaign.

Former President Clinton was a constant presence, as well, in a state he carried twice on his own in 1992 and 1996.

Remarkably, neither Obama nor Clinton has aired a television commercial criticizing the other, and both of the rivals stepped back earlier in the week from a controversy over race. But that didn't prevent almost constant sniping between the two camps, each pointing out alleged inconsistencies in the other's record.

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Associated Press writers Seanna Adcox and Libby Quaid, both in Columbia, S.C., contributed to this report.


 
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TO: Senator John Pain McCain January 22, 2008
Ref: Scarce Foods,Jobs in U.S. Ignored by Senator John McCain. Continued

In immediate above post I mentioned I was almost hit by a car and this would not be had someone been decent and smart and helped job seekers as myself and poor.

Furthermore, this car ran into another car at the intersection of Larkin and Eddy Sts.,Sfc and the car swung around and crossed the street swiftly and I was on sidewalk walking by the store by 3 minutes and this car ran into the store. Wonderfully the steel beams were so strong the car did not go into the grocery-deli store on corner of Larkin and
Eddy Sts.Sfc

There are other cruel injuries the job seeker and poor are subjected too and this is disgusting. For example one time because I could not afford shelves yet I reached for my Italian Language book and got a pulled tenden the size of an egg. Because SFGH hospital is only hospital for poor,job seekers and because I had a bad experience already with SFGH Hospital I had no hospital nor medical care. Thank goodness for a nice tenant who gave me some antibiotic cream and thank goodness for the pharmacy at Walgreens up on VanNess and Eddy Sts. I got helped compassionately so.

The job seeker and poor have only one hospital to go to if something goes wrong with a malpractice case,etc. The poor cannot afford medical health care on only a stupid $50.00 a month. You all want to dump your problems you've been negligent on onto the job seeker and poor. The poor cannot afford health care insurance. The poor cannot afford smoker's tax. Social Security people cannot afford to care for others since they got no cost of living increase with only half of what they're suppose to get. God's Equality Law states,"Don't inflict suffering on one group to give unto another group." Jesus cared for all people even the Poor. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 01/22/2008

TO: Senator John Pain McCain January 22, 2008
Continued Scarce food,jobs in U.S.

Elliot Liebow, Jewish Anthropologist, writes in his '93 book too that,"Closing down shelters in Wash D. C. and in cities around the country is criminal,self-defeating, and dumb." Welfare gives meager money to people. The homeless bear a terrible burden being homeless. The solutions of all this he believes is housing for homeless, to understand how cruel and despicable homelessness is and that homelessness is caused by people with no conscience who don't care about the poor. To make hard for the poor and not easy for poor is pernicious for it leads to abuse of the poor. Liebow'93 book. Amos 4 "Don't Abuse the Poor."

Clearly you people are guilty too of ignoring the poor since I put all this on internet around 2001 and no one responded nor cared and now its worse. Not only can one not afford job faxes since companies don't give name and address in Chronicle newspaper, but one cannot move elsewhere because of these scarce food,jobs resources and my Religious and Human Rights violated terribly so.

Locally I cannot even afford to go to church out yonder since I disagreed with a local Catholic Church here. This is a violation of my Religious Freedom, yet talk show hosts lie and lie that everything is alright when it's not. I missed getting hit by a car by 3 minutes one time walking home and I would not be living in that neighborhood if someone had compassion and helped me. Do you get it. One can get killed with no help and upholding Human Rights and Decency. You'll answer to God and Jesus someday. What do you think God and Jesus think of th

God's Unalienable Rights Are For All. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 01/22/2008

TO: Senator John Pain McCain January 22, 2008 Continued from above post. Scarce foods,jobs in U.S.


We know who is going to pay for this pretend economic crisis of today. It will be laid on the backs of the poor. The lash of the whip still breaks their backs. Gov. Schwarzenegger is taking their money too. Someday God and Jesus Will Save them!

Moreover, these people lie on the radio talk show programs because with budget cuts for 10 years of poor there's nothing left. Yet they say there's just a gap between rich and poor. The only gap is their awful yap. I quit evil jobs.

Moreoever this spending is a big lie by Gov. Schwarzenegger since I sent him documents showing not much money was ever spent on poor,job seeker as shorttime shelters, no Welfare in Florida Sanchez letter to me Feb 97 and no GA other cities. Horrible out-all-day shelters.

Furthermore, in my neighborhood with owners' signatures stating that their grocery stores no longer take EBT Food Stamp card so one cannot buy fresh meat. Companies make you pay to use restrooms so it's hard to be mobile. Gov. Schwarzenegger ignored my complaint that I cannot use EBT Food Stamp card April 2004. Hann receives his mail. Also USDA where you make a complaint also did nothing of my scarce food,jobs resources lawsuit and the fact I cannot use my EBT Food Stamp card. I thought we had laws against cruelties and inhumane acts. If this is not cruel and unusual punishment I don't know what is.

Elliot Liebow,Jewish Anthropologist, writes in his '93 book Tell Them Who I Am that,"Millions are told that there is no work for them to do. Low status,low wage,dirty jobs undermine the work ethic. Jobs that do not pay enough to live on undermine the work ethic." Because it is a Government of All Americans We Must Help the Poor.Liebow'93 Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109 Rec job Sec of Def 64

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 01/22/2008

TO: Senator John Pain McCain January 22, 2008

What's this you want to follow Sen. Phil Gramm from No. Carolina I believe where he once said the Homeless should not get any money. I thought this so rotten and mean. One needs money to go job seeking, keep clean, pain needs, phone,newspaper. People are laid off from jobs,fired, I quit evil,corrupt jobs, low-wage families on Welfare,children victims of abuse and violence, runaways, veterans,elderly, aids' victims and your telling me you care for the American people.! If we had decent leaders people would not hate Americans so. Get it?

THERE NEVER WAS ANY MONEY SPENT ON JOB SEEKER, POOR. Christmas 2007 provided a boost to the economy 3 weeks earlier and sometime before this President George W. Bush said the economy was fine before some election. Now it's all falling apart! Nonsense!

Elliot Liebow, Jewish Anthropologist, writes in his '93 book,"Closing down shelters in Wash DC and in cities around the country is criminal,self-defeating, and dumb. Welfare gives meager money to Welfare people. His book confirms my scarce food,jobs lawsuit of 97 which all Courts,my reps,Supr Chris Daly,House Speaker Nancy Pelosi,Sen Patrick Leahy,Vt.,Atty Gen Bill Lockyear,DA's office past and present, etc. No response. We don't want these kind of cruel people in government which is suppose to be a Good government.

I sent you Sen. John McCain letter of these scarce food,jobs resources in U.S 97 around 3 yrs ago and you never responded. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 01/22/2008
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Memo

To: Mammahuff
Fm: President Al Gore

Please note that Obama won more delegates than Hilary in Nevada but, as President of the United States, I am awarding the Nevada election to Hilary because she received more caucus goesrs votes.

(signed) President Albert Gore

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 01/20/2008

McCain versus Hillary?

If Hillary is the Dem, McCain will win. Why? The Christain Conservatives will mobilize to keep HC out. That is why the Repub like HC so much - she'll wake up the base.

I am a CC, many of my CC friends are discusted with the last six years and want change. Barack - sure, John E. yep. HC - no way. The CC's just hate Bill too much.

wake up Libs. If you run HC, you will lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 01/20/2008

"I guess this is how the West was one," is what Hillary said after having won Nevada. Hillary should have studied the history of Nevada before making "that" remark. Again I say that Hillary, like Geo. W. Bush, does not realize the impact of the "loose use," of her words. She relied heavily on the Hispanic turnout,and after 2/3 did, she insulted them. Doesn't Hillary understand that Nevada is part of the west, and that Nevada is the Spanish word for "snow capped." Someone should tell her that the west was won with guns, not votes. Like her remarks about Dr. King, I am sure she will blame others for their iterpretations and the NOW defensless little thing will probably sick Bill on anyone who points out the insensitivity of her statements. It seems that sometimes she is the strong, commanding candidate. Other times, she is the "damsel in distress." Which is it? Will the real Hilliary Clinton, please stand up. Should she become president, I hope she realizes in sensitive situations that words have meaning, they define thoughts. Yes, WORDS MATTER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 01/20/2008
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Obama supporters seem keen on expressing why people should not vote for Clinton, but have not expressed why anyone should vote for Obama.

No substance in his policies or does he have policies? I don't know on either account.

If the choice is Obama and a Republican, why would I want to vote for Obama? Anyone...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/20/2008
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Gee, look what is below this little box. Ads by google. Kiawah Island, Hillary Clinton News, and New World Order exposed.

What do You see?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 01/20/2008
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I suggest that if Hillary is the nominee and no legitimate third party progressive emerges, rather than staying home progressives should write in "no confidence" on their ballot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 01/20/2008
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Voting for Hillary is voting to continue the Democratic agenda which has repeatedly failed us over the past 12 years and has enabled the GOP either through cooperation or ineptitude.

We complain about the media rewarding wrong pundits, so why do we continue to reward Democrats who are wrong, and fear the Democrats who are right?

Hillary voters are being manipulated into supporting style over substance. It may be true that the other Dems are not particularly substantial, but when you weigh their records against one another Hillary's is still the worst.

Hillary represents the refutation of the very idea that a female leader would represent a significant break from the male dominated leadership of the past, yet her supporters still maintain the fiction that somehow a female president will represent a change by the virtue of being female.

It is sad that so many voters will go with Clinton, not based on her record, but to spite the media, the GOP and even their liberal and progressive compatriots who actually value record over symbolism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 01/20/2008

Ethnic (and racial) prejudices are a peculiar thing, as the Clintons' race-coded campaign is showing.

I remember in 1988, when the punditocracy--faced with the prospect of a Democratic candidacy of an eloquent and empowering governor of New York, Mario Cuomo, openly questioned whether someone with a vowel at the end of their last name could win a national election.

We not only ended up that year with a candidate named Michael Dukakis (also with an ethnic last name, but no vowel), who was trounced by George H.W. Bush, a favorite of Hillary Clinton (check out her Web site).

Today the Clintons and their surrogates are using thinly veiled race coding against another candidate, while hoping to enlist Latinos in their cause.

Question is, if they are willing to do that against one group today, can any minority group member really feel the Clintons' will protect them, push comes to shove?

Espero que me entienden.

Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen

P.S. Hillary, tomorrow is Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, not Lyndon B. Johnson Day

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 01/20/2008

Anyone notice how small coverage of Clinton's stumping of thje reagan lover has been covered here, msm, Drudge, NYT's etc. The man lost and they cna't accept it, so ignore Hillary(unless it's some made up scandal).The race baiting going on black radio shows is appalling, yet, the man who would unite us says nothing, but makes causes a racial divide over Bill and Hillary's innocuous comments. This guy is as crafty and devious politician as many of you claim the Clintons are...got over it!! You lost, just like Hillary will lose SC b/c of the race baiting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 01/20/2008

Three very critical points are missing from far too many of the MSM reports and editorial comments regarding the Democratic primary, and in particular the recent Nevada caucus.
First of all, I would thank the New York Times Sunday edition for explaining the scenario properly with their front page headline, “Obama 2nd, but Takes 1 More Delegate”. In the end it is delegates and not votes that will determine the Dem winner. In Nevada, Sen. Obama gained 13 delegates while Sen. Clinton only gained 12. So, regarding what truly counted in Nevada, Obama was the victor. I realize the MSM will likely tout the vote count to try to set further perceptions of HRC being unstoppable and the Obama campaign being in a desperate situation, but that simply IMO is not true. The fact remains that Obama won the majority of delegates in Nevada.
Secondly, it was also reported that 8 out of 10 African Americans caucused for Obama in Nevada. That is critical going into South Carolina.
Thirdly, I find it simply amazing that the MSM and many voters seemed to have drunken the cool-aid regarding the economy by disconnecting it from Iraq. IMO only the uninformed would not understand that the nearly $2 Trillion (present value direct and indirect including the future costs of military equipment replacements/repair, disability etc. pay for our brave veterans, etc. relative to Iraq ) cost of the Iraq war to date, as reported, have been a tremendous strain on our economy. And it appears so many of those uninformed voters don’t want to understand that we are borrowing from China at record levels to maintain our economy and even the cost of this war. So amazingly, those candidates who voted for this unjustified Iraq war originally, including HRC, have been trying with all of their might to disconnect Iraq from the poor economic conditions. IMO, that disconnect is inappropriate and divertive. Imagine what $2 Trillion would have done for the domestic economy of the US had those candidates, including HRC, not voted for this (proven) unjustified war!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 01/20/2008

The ticket will be Clinton/Biden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 01/20/2008
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