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Obama Faces White Resistance In South, Polls Show

First Posted: 03/28/08 03:45 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 01:20 PM ET

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Columbia, S.C. -- Barack Obama is heading into the January 26 South Carolina Democratic primary powered by a solid lead in each of the most recent 11 polls taken here, with African American voters and a slice of the white electorate set to put him over the top next Saturday.

While Obama is expected to pick up one out of five white Democratic primary voters, his margin among such voters in this deep Southern state lags from three to fourteen percentage points behind his support among whites nationally, depending on the survey. This lag, which appears at present to hold across the entire South, challenges one of the central claims of the Obama campaign: that he is a more viable general election candidate than Hillary Clinton.

Additional poll data from Mason-Dixon and SurveyUSA studies also produce findings which run counter to the hopes and expectations of many of Obama's supporters here in South Carolina.

"Many of us remember Martin Luther King's impassioned speech calling for the day when his daughter would be judged on content of her character and not on her color," said former state Democratic chairman Dick Harpootlian earlier this week. "We think that day is here, Barack Obama is that person."

Similarly, former Democratic Governor Jim Hodges said on January 17, "I've got to tell you that as a white Southerner, it gives me an immense amount of pride to see an African American who could really win the presidency. It would do great things for race relations in the country."

Another former Democratic chair, Joe Erwin, said on January 16 that Obama's campaign "will help us to grow again in this state and across the South. To me, it speaks volumes about what this country can be and should be about race relations. Because of the history of race in this country and in this state where we had more of our share of problems, it can bridge and create a new spirit for people of all races."

If, as a number of Democratic strategists argue, the party were to write off the states of the deep South and limit efforts in the region to Florida and perhaps some states on the periphery such as Arkansas and Tennessee, Obama's apparent difficulties with white Democrats -- ranging from slight to very substantial -- would not be a significant factor in the general election. Instead, his strength with independent whites outside the South could prove to be a more important matter in assessing his viability in November.

There are a number of signals pointing to difficulties for Obama in the South.

In national surveys of white voters, conducted by television networks and newspapers, Obama has generally run ahead of John Edwards and behind Hillary Clinton. In the South, however, Edwards has run consistently ahead of Obama among whites.

Confirming Obama's relative vulnerability in the South is MIT political scientist Stephen Ansolabehere, one of the nation's leading experts on public opinion surveys who has helped coordinate a huge academically-based data collection program, the Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, including 10,000 interviews conducted in December. He found that "Obama comes in third among the white southern Democrats. Clinton gets 36 percent, Edwards 24 percent and Obama 17 percent." This amounts to a 19 point spread between Clinton and Obama, and a significant 7 point spread between Edwards and Obama.

Reflecting Ansolabehere's data, a January 14-16 Mason Dixon survey (pdf) published in The State newspaper in Columbia of 400 likely voters in the South Carolina Democratic primary found that among whites, Hillary Clinton had the support of 39 percent of respondents, John Edwards 28 and Obama 20 -- a 19 point spread between Clinton and Obama.

Obama's decisive South Carolina lead among African American Democrats in the Mason-Dixon poll -- 56 percent to Clinton's 25 and Edwards' 2 -- more than made up for the Illinois senator's white vote deficit, putting him ahead among all voters, 40 percent to Clinton's 31 and Edwards' 13.

Columbia political scientist and statistician Robert Erikson pointed out that a recent SurveyUSA poll conducted for South Carolina television stations showed that "as a group, only one in five [white South Carolina Democrats] supports Obama."

The SurveyUSA Poll conducted January 16-17 gave Obama a 10-point lead overall, but showed Obama winning only 22 percent of whites, compared to 50 percent for Clinton (a 28 point spread), and 26 percent for Edwards. Obama held a landslide margin among black voters, 74 percent, to Clinton's 20 and Edwards' 3.

Most politicians and many political analysts contend that even though the South is more conservative and more Republican than the rest of the country, Southern white Democrats are not much different from white Democrats everywhere else.

The poll numbers here in South Carolina challenge that assessment.

While white Democrats in South Carolina give Obama a level of support in the low twenties, a national ABC News/Washington Post survey released January 14 found that among white Democratic voters across the country; Obama does much better than among white southern Democrats.

The ABC/Post poll showed 33 percent of white Democrats backing Obama nationally, with 41 percent supporting Clinton and 14 percent in Edwards' corner. Nationally, there was only an 8 point spread between Clinton and Obama. Obama did less well among white voters nationally in a CBS poll released January 13, winning 24 percent to Clinton's 42 percent and Edwards' 13 percent. But he still beat Edwards by a solid 11 points.

In his analysis of Southern white Democratic poll data, Ansolabehere found:

*One of Obama's weakest levels of white support is among Democratic union members in the South: "That is Edwards' base. 50 percent of [Southern white] union members supported Edwards, 19 percent supported Clinton, and 12 percent supported Obama."


*"Clinton draws substantial support among those with high school or less education," Ansolabehere said. She had the support of 44 percent of these voters, and 31 percent of those with college degrees. Obama had the reverse pattern. Just 12 percent with a high school degree or less backed him, compared to 22 percent of those who had completed college.

*The strongest levels of white Southern support for Obama were among well-educated liberals, especially those who are not regular church-goers. Obama got 25 percent of liberal southern whites, and 12 percent of moderates.

Ansolabehere's conclusions were generally supported by the seat-of-the-pants analyses from political strategists and other political scientists.

Donna Brazile, who ran the 2000 Gore campaign, said "my sense is that it [white southern support for Obama] is independents, college students, high income, highly educated and urban whites who often back strong Black reform candidates for mayor and congressional offices."

Similarly, University of Maryland political scientist Tom Schaller said Obama is most likely to find white southern support among the "upper income, for one. Transplanted, perhaps, number two. And [in] university towns."

Rice University political scientist Earl Black said "college-educated white men, especially those with good incomes, should be more supportive than white men with modest education and/or income. Younger white Democrats (male and female) should be more supportive of Obama than older white Democrats (male and female)."

In a more cautious assessment, Gary Jacobson of the University of California-San Diego, an expert in election analysis, said, "My crystal ball is too cloudy . . . I hesitate to make any prediction at all after watching the polls bounce around so much this season."

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06:08 PM on 01/27/2008
BARACK OBAMA IS NOT BLACK __HE IS BI_RACIAL--
03:47 PM on 01/25/2008
"White resistance"? John Edwards did well in the debate, and he's from South Carolina. Many people are going to support him because of that. If Obama wins the nomination, I believe most of the Edwards supporters will support him.
06:26 AM on 01/23/2008
Oh, please.

I'm from the South. Sure, there's a demographic that will not vote for Obama because he's black. That demographic overlaps significantly with people who will not vote for Hillary because she's Hillary. If that demo arses itself to vote in November, it will be for the Republican candidate or to put in a protest vote for someone else on that side of the aisle. These are also the same people who are passing around the Obama is a Muslim emails.

They're a lost cause for the Democrats, right now, at least. They don't matter at all with regard to the Democratic nomination.
06:55 PM on 01/22/2008
If you threw a conservative black guy up there, say a Clarence Thomas, then I have no doubt Southerners would vote for him. Obama is too liberal, that's his problem. Also, remember that many whites realize the blacks vote as a bloc, basically over 90% vote the same way. This is considered as a threat to the average guy and he thinks about that when he votes. Everybody needs to vote for the best qualified person and leave it at that.
06:34 PM on 01/22/2008
The south will hesitate to vote for a black man? Shocker.

And hey, ReasonableThought, regarding Obama being "a radical liberal," you've been watching too much FOX. It's the usual and transparent ploy used by repubs--successfully, it would seem--to move the center so far to the right that anyone who would, you know, even consider the possibility of raising taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans could be labeled as tax-and-spend socialist.

My dear republican brothers and sisters--your presidents have created record setting deficits, high inflation, low wages, outsourced jobs, started and/or funded illegal wars (W. and Saint Ronnie), wreaked havoc on the environment, dealt with teen drug use and pregnancy by asking our kids to just say no, have tied in aid to Africa by insisting that nobody talks about condoms in the most AIDS-riddle place in the world, has advocated torture, domestic spying, and demonstrated an overall distain for our constitution.

Could you please start looking at some of the contradictions in your belief system? It's literally fucking killing us. Something like 600,000 Iraqui's to date and counting. I'm not sure, but if we haven't surpassed Saddam in Iraqi deaths, we're pretty damn close. Please look at yourselves.
06:34 PM on 01/22/2008
See, Obama was right. Just listen to yourselves, trash each other and the candidate you don't like. The country is split, rich/poor, black/white, and will ALWAYS be this way, due to sheer ignorance. Blatant lies, total distortion of the truth, just to get ahead. And we wonder why the country is in the shape it's in?
Totally pathetic and ugly!
04:54 PM on 01/22/2008
Obama is only getting started and was a relative unknown to most a few months ago. Once he is able to campaign on the national stage and once Edwards and other strong democrats campaign for him, his popularity among the whites you discuss will improve dramatically.
01:40 PM on 01/22/2008
Tom: While I was not overjoyed to see the white/black disparities in Southern voting in this article, you are doing an excellent job bringing hard and important polling information and analyses to all of us. Keep it up! Guy
01:35 PM on 01/22/2008
Please don't tell that to the Obama disciples. they think Mr. Barack is the second coming.
05:31 PM on 01/21/2008
If Obama were a white male from Chicago running against ol' local John Edwards, people would chalk it up to geography and home turf advantage. While it's never safe to understimate the sheer lizard-brain power of racism, it might not be the only factor at play here.
03:47 PM on 01/21/2008
'In a more cautious assessment, Gary Jacobson of the University of California-San Diego, an expert in election analysis, said, "My crystal ball is too cloudy . . . I hesitate to make any prediction at all after watching the polls bounce around so much this season."'

Gary Jacobson, I salute you. I don't mind being explained the results of an election in terms of socio-economic statistics after the fact, but being told in advance how we, the American people are going to vote gets old. Now if only your colleagues would following your lead.
03:19 PM on 01/21/2008
I am shocked, SHOCKED, to hear that there are millions of white people in the USA who won't vote for Mr Obama for president because of his race.
If Mr Obama and his supporters are shocked by this astonishing revelation, it's time for them to change the water in their hookahs.
If Mr Obama knew with certainty that he will lose because of prejudice, woud he still run? I bet he would, because he be on it like that, see what I'm sayin?
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"Rightwing hypocrisy" is redundant.
02:49 PM on 01/21/2008
Wow, racism in the South? Stop the presses.
02:45 PM on 01/21/2008
American politics is not about race, gender, red states, etc.
It's all about MONEY. Anyone who says different is trying to distract you or just plain stupid (and stupid isn't just in the south, commenters below, stupid is everywhere).
Money can buy anything, including power. When big corps and execs(defense, oil, pharma, insurance) fund candidates, they expect a return, and, through their lobbyists, they get it: no-bid defense contracts, oil subsidies, fewer pollution regulations, capital gains tax cuts, I could go on for hours. We can't expand health insur. to working-class kids, but we'll use tax dollars to pay for welfare for the oil industry? If you're not angry, you're not paying attention! If you think you can compromise with big money, you're not hooked up to reality!
Follow the money. Who owns the tv station or paper from which you get your news? Who's giving money to your candidate? Not so fast, Obama supporters, he always has and still is funded by execs of oil, nuclear power, insurance and pharma, it's just Hillary can get more from PACs since Obama quit that last year. Obama also has 3 lobbyists working on his campaign.
Make fun all you want, but I'm voting for John Edwards. He readily admits his mistakes, prefers to talk about his plans to improve our country rather than waste time mud-slinging, and his small campaign account depends on public funds and people like me, middle class Americans.
To you, he may be just another white guy, but I've read and researched 'em all. I've made an informed decision.
Is America ready for a woman or black man for president? Jimmy crack corn and I really don't give a shit. (And I'm a woman.)
I want America to hire the best person for the job, who'll represent those of us who pay the taxes, work the jobs and fight and die in the wars. We don't have much money, but by God, we're Americans, and we've earned a better Democracy than this!
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Dis eas all yoooour fault
10:38 AM on 01/21/2008
I read about polls every day in this country. So why have I never participated in one???
38 years and never even been asked my opinion by a pollster.

GWW