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Last Stand: Bush To Battle Dems Over Permanent Iraq Presence

January 25, 2008 01:30 PM


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The next and perhaps last big debate on Iraq War policy has come into focus in recent weeks, as the Bush administration has made several moves to secure a long-term military presence in the war-torn country.

A new White House effort to negotiate a long-term military-to-military relationship with the Iraqi government - to replace the current U.N. Mandate - has congressional Democrats and war opponents up in arms. Constitutionally, they say, it is Congress' right to weigh in on such agreements. Moreover, they add, anything that codifies America's continuing presence in the region would be unfairly tying the hands of Bush's successor.

"This is an opportunity to really draw the distinctions between those of us who want to bring this to a responsible but expeditious conclusion, and extricate ourselves from the quagmire that is Iraq," Rep. Bill Delahunt, who held hearings this week on the issue of U.S. military permanency in Iraq, told the Huffington Post. "On the other hand you have this Bush-Cheney gang that is, even at the end, moving forward with its pension for secrecy in a ways that leaves Congress, the institution of Congress, not knowing what might be the most important foreign policy issue facing the country."

Despite long-held fears that U.S. policy in Iraq was geared towards permanency (legislation has been drawn up prohibiting it), the battle lines over the issue have been drawn surprisingly recently. In November, the White House and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki released a joint statement that declared the principles of "friendship and cooperation." The document did not reference any specific military agreement. But the writing was on the wall. Around that time, General Douglas Lute, the Bush administration's "war czar", said that any "security" agreement the U.S. struck with Iraq did not require Congressional input.

Democrats in Congress were outraged. Sen. Jim Webb, D-VA, penned a letter to President Bush asking for information about any long-term agreement and demanding that he consult with Congress. On the campaign trail, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, asked her challenger, Sen. Barack Obama, D-IL, to co-sponsor her bill that would prevent the president from entering into such a pact without Congress' approval. The primary opponents found an area of agreement.

In the House of Representatives, Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-CT, introduced similar legislation that would restrict federal money for any such agreement unless it came in the form of a congressionally approved treaty.

"The idea that one individual should be able to determine the United States policy towards Iraq for the next 10, 15, 20 years raises serious concerns," DeLauro told the Huffington Post. "This legislation ensures that Congress has a role in determining our policy, by requiring that the Bush administration consults with Congress before moving forward with any agreement that could lead to long term security arrangements and other major economic and political commitments, and makes clear that any such agreement must come in the form of a treaty."

As opposed to earlier battles over Iraq war funding and timelines for troop withdrawals, war opponents see the fight over long-term bases as a battle with promise. Indeed, an incentive exists among Republicans in Congress to push back against the Bush administration - if not out of opposition to the war, then out of a sense of balance-of-powers pride.

As Delahunt phrased it: "There is just no trust between the presidency and Congress at this point."

The arguments are already being honed. Long-term military investments in Iraq would cost the United States billions of dollars. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that having 55,000 troops in the country through 2018 would push war cost of the war to over $1 trillion. And as former Rep. Tom Andrews, who currently heads the group Win Without War, points out: "In very short order we will have 4,000 deaths, and the fact is, you have to ask the question, what for?"

Finally, there is the concern that clamping down in the Middle East would be a strategic error that violates our principles, in line with France's military presence in Indochina.

"Our troops will have to be garrisoned outside the cities behind high walls," former Senator Gary Hart told the Huffington Post. "We will be sitting ducks -- targets if we go outside the walls of our fortresses, targets for mortar and rocket attack if we stay inside... [Democrats] need to make the issue one of empire, which instinctively the American people understand and resist. We cannot simultaneously salute the flag of a Republic and behave as an empire."

Of course, in any battle over foreign policy, the concern exists that the president will operate off a narrow interpretation of executive privilege, ignoring congressional objections. On Friday, The New York Times reported that "the Bush administration will insist that the government in Baghdad give the United States broad authority to conduct combat operations and guarantee civilian contractors specific legal protections from Iraqi law," despite howls from the legislative branch.

And while DeLauro and others are attempting to restrict the funds with which the president can operate, the possibility certainly exists that he will convince enough Republicans to fall in line. After all, having been elected in 2006 to change the course of the Iraq War, the Democratic Congress has, for a large part, come up empty handed thanks to GOP opposition.

"There is some sense of fatalism," Andrews said of the feeling on Capitol Hill. "That we've tried this and we've tried it again and again. And there is only so much that one can do under these circumstances. But, we argue that, the Congress can create political circumstances to make effective change."

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- wsblake I'm a Fan of wsblake 9 fans permalink

The history books are already being re-written everyday on Fox News and CNN. In another year or two it will be the Democrats who got us into Iraq and Bush will be the greatest president since TR. Just wait and see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 01/25/2008
- Indyfromny I'm a Fan of Indyfromny 17 fans permalink
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Why isnt this story front and center on Huff Po?????????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 01/25/2008
- Indyfromny I'm a Fan of Indyfromny 17 fans permalink
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Write your senator and urge them to stop this madman.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 01/25/2008
- Moxo I'm a Fan of Moxo 11 fans permalink

It never ceases to amaze me how easily and quickly Republicans forget their principles, and everything our Founding Fathers fought for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 01/25/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 276 fans permalink

You can't win a WAR CRIME!

http://icasualties.org/oif/US_chart.aspx
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

All those extra soldiers were needed just to keep Iraq from getting worse after 2005.

We are back to the death rate of 2005.

That's good? posted 01/24/2008 at 01:03:11
935 LIES from BushCo, but

"The Surge is working"

We should believe?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 01/25/2008
- acudoctor I'm a Fan of acudoctor 4 fans permalink

"When targeted by a roadside bomb or suicide bomber, U.S. soldiers shoot at people randomly. Innocent civilians have been killed or injured," Yaser Abdul-Rahman, a 45-year-old schoolmaster told IPS. "Thousands of people have been killed like this."

The anti-U.S. sentiment in Baquba is now so high that people no longer hide their distrust of the U.S.

"At the beginning of the occupation, the people of Iraq did not realise the U.S. strategy in the area," Abu Taiseer, a member of the communist party in the city told IPS. "Their strategy is based on destruction and massacre. They do anything to have their agenda fulfilled.

"Now, Iraqis know that behind the U.S. smile is hatred and violence," Taiseer added. "They call others violent and terrorists, but what they are doing in Iraq and in other countries is the origin and essence of terror. America is the biggest producer of terror, and they spend huge funds for creating and training death squads all over the world."

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40924

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 01/25/2008

The Democrats have proven themselves over and over again to be nothing more than pussies.

They couldn't "battle" a group of fifth graders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 01/25/2008
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

This just in: Democrats acquiesce to president's demands, approve 10 thousand year presence in Iraq and increase Bush's salary to 1 million dollars a year, just to show they're willing to work together with the White House on things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 01/25/2008
- ebbtide I'm a Fan of ebbtide 16 fans permalink

the Dems "battle"? I think not. They write letters and hold hearings, even if witnesses ignore subpeonas. They have let the country down and they have allowed criminals to continue on in their roles in government.

Sorry, but the Dems do not battle. They are tinmid, or complicit, one or the other.

They are a disappointment. Reid and Pelosi have allowed criminal activity for the big corps and Bush. They could care less aobut the country or it's little people who are really the victims of their complicity.

They write letters. Wow, that is real confrontation. They hold hearings. Wow the hearings come to nothing. Pelosi takes impeachment for treasonous crims off the table. Wow, and today I read that George Bush and Fox news is going to make an hour long promotion of George Bush, comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln. That will go down in some history books as truth. It is backed up by neocons such as Newt. Thanks Pelosi, for holding back. Did you have a bo tox appointment the day this country sold itself out to criminals who get away with their crimes, while well meaning parents are trying to teach their children to not lie, to be moral, to own up and etc?

Thanks Pelosi. You done good. Go kiss George, the reinvention of Abraham Lincoln.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 01/25/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 276 fans permalink

All three dems will keep us in Iraq forever.

No you say? your candidate said they would leave? Really? Read it again at their web sites. All three dem would stay in Iraq if Al Quida is a threat there.

Al quida will always be a "threat".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 01/25/2008
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Bush battling Democrats over permanent Iraq presence will go like this;

Bush: Yes!

Democrats: Mabey?

Bush: Yes!

Democrats: Mabey?

Watch out the debate will be fierce.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 01/25/2008
- mommadona I'm a Fan of mommadona 168 fans permalink
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The voters of this country spoke in 2006 -
OUT OF IRAQ. NO PERMANENT BASES.

Watching the Madness of King George spinning his delusion of grandeur:

DAMN SCARY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 01/25/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

Why do Bu$h and the criminals want to stay in Iraq? It's the same reason we REALLY went to war. Oil and war profoteering. Just think about this. Remember the SECRET Cheney energy meetings, BEFORE 9/11? Cheney had all the heads of BIG Oil there along with Kenny Boy Lay from Enron. They were looking at maps of Iraqi oil fields. Why? That was BEFORE 9/11. Now look at this important story that the MSM is covering up.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Paper__Blood_and_oil__0107.html

Now you know why we are building Super bases there. Dumbya and Darth Cheney want us to be there a LONG, LONG time. Even after they leave office, they will profit from this war more than ever before. A military conflict with Iran will aid the time needed to maximize the profits in that area.

Add to all of that, the cash registers will keep ringing for Halliburton, Blackwater, the Carlyle Group, Bechtol, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Lockheed and all the other Bu$h war profiteering friends.

Yeah, we went to Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction, right? Lie!!! Okay, we went to Iraq because Iraq was tied into 9/11 right? Lie!!! Alright, we went to Iraq because of the threat of a mushroom cloud right? Lie!!! Okay, okay, we went to Iraq to establish a democracy right? Lie!!! Now the Rethugs are saying that we are exclusively fighting al quada there. Another lie!!! Al quada wasn't even in Iraq when we invaded. And they make up about 5% of the insurgent forces that we fight there now. When will people FINALLY see through all this BULLSHIT!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 01/25/2008
- biwee I'm a Fan of biwee 13 fans permalink

Not to worry...th­e next Prez can trash the Shrubber's Status of Forces Agreement, or whatever scam Addington is running on this.....u­nless it is NeoCon Hillery, totally owned by the New Yorkers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 01/25/2008
- RumiSouth I'm a Fan of RumiSouth 34 fans permalink
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Babylon. We've built Babylon.

Years from now, soldiers will joke that the ring of forts and security perimeter around Baghdad "is our last, best hope for peace."

No one will laugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 01/25/2008
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