Flawed Study Ranks Obama As "Most Liberal"

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First Posted: 01-31-08 08:02 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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[To read Stephen Schlesinger's post, "Hillary Confronts Bush on Iraq Bases", go here.]


So National Journal has published their "authoritative" list of who's who in the world of Liberality. And right on time, Barack Obama -- you know, the huge Reagan fan! -- is the undisputed number one liberal in the world. And Hillary's no slouch either: while she avoids the recognition of being labelled America's Next Top Soviet Insurgent, she comes up as the Senate's sixteenth-most liberal member.

What does it all mean? Frankly, not much more than the National Journal finding "liberals" to be scary! The whole endeavor is a twisted skein of fuzzy math and ever shifting standards. What can one make of these numbers? Clinton supposedly voted "liberal" eight more times on sixteen more votes than Obama, yet Obama is somehow "more" liberal. Maybe it's percentages, then! Obama took the "liberal position" sixty-five out of sixty-six times, according to the NJ's data. That sure seems pretty liberal, but I can't recall anyone ever suggesting that Barack Obama was somehow the reincarnation of Paul Wellstone.

So much depends upon how many votes each lawmaker actually casts. The National Journal shunts every single vote into three separate "issue categories," and if an individual member misses more than half the votes in any category, they don't receive a composite score. By this logic, absenteeism somehow magically obscures your political leanings! This wasn't a position the NJ took four years ago, by the way. As they admit, their considerations for absenteeism only came about "after Kerry was ranked the most liberal senator in our 2003 ratings despite having missed more than half of the votes in two categories." Convenient!

It really shouldn't have to be said, but let's say it: the biggest flaw with these rankings is that they purport to render a quantitative measurement to a qualitative attribute. This is something Brian Beutler takes up:

On almost any of the major votes that Obama missed, you'll find that men like Russ Feingold and Bernie Sanders were usually on hand, making phone calls, rallying their colleagues, and voting the right way. More to the point, those men advocate from the floor for progressive positions, with passion, every week while Barack Obama does not.

Indeed. As Aristotle teaches in The Poetics, character is revealed through a person's deeds, and roll call votes are just one thin aspect of a Senatorial career. Some Senators rally for liberal causes. Some write and sponsor bills. Some walk the halls, working the caucus. But then there are other members of the Senate who forge compromises in committee, who tack on amendments, who fundamentally shift the nature of an individual bill toward one end of the spectrum or another. There are procedural games that are played, parliamentary maneuvers. At times, members are freed of the obligation to vote with the caucus in order to lessen the heat from constituents. By the time a bill gets voted on, any number of individuals have registered any number of effects, all of which speak more clearly to their individual "liberalism" (or lack thereof) than the vote does.

Here's an example. Back on November 6, Dennis Kucinich -- a well-known liberal -- attempted to introduce articles of impeachment against Dick Cheney. The Democratic leadership moved to kick Kucinich's bill into committee, where it could be effectively killed. They didn't do this out of kinship with Dick Cheney! They did it because they just didn't need the grief that would ensue if they took up the impeachment issue. But the Republican caucus forced a floor vote to openly consider Kucinich's bill in an attempt to embarrass the Democrats. By a close vote, the Democrats eventually prevailed, chasing Kucinich's impeachment into committee. This may not have been a vote tracked by the National Journal, but if you apply their logic to this vote, you would have to conclude that the Republicans were taking the "liberal position." Does that make any sense?

Naturally, you'll find few people in the professional set who actually believe these rankings are a pure measure of ideological bent. In the end, this is just a cheap political stunt that purports to be backed by statistics. But that won't stop the media -- who've proven themselves to be wholly inept at doing the sort of critical reporting necessary to debunk this sort of claptrap -- from using these "findings" as grist for any number of storylines. Should you buy in? We'll leave you with this: these findings state that Ron Paul is only the "178th-most-conservative lawmaker" in the U.S. House of Representatives. No sane person believes that.

[To read Stephen Schlesinger's post, "Hillary Confronts Bush on Iraq Bases", go here.] So National Journal has published their "authoritative" list of who's who in the world of Liberality. And ri...
[To read Stephen Schlesinger's post, "Hillary Confronts Bush on Iraq Bases", go here.] So National Journal has published their "authoritative" list of who's who in the world of Liberality. And ri...
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- richsmith I'm a Fan of richsmith 8 fans permalink

Rachael Maddow mentioned this inane National Standard declaration on her show last night, and it immediately popped into my head that Bernie Sanders should really be pissed off that they come out with this crap, upon which Rachael immediately said more or less the same thing and added that when Kerry was running 4 years ago the same thing was said about him. Sanders is the only socialist in public office in this country, I believe, although I may be wrong. How narrow minded, uninspired, and pathetic the US political landscape is. Writing that the notion is "flawed" is putting it mildly. The right wing has a general proclivity toward pulling such turds out of their asses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 02/02/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

well, bush redefined republican, patriot (act), torture (enhanced interrogation) so why can't obama redefine liberal?

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Find the true candidate for peace, freedom, and ethics in government
Hillary Obama Ron
Paul
Introduced bill to end Iraq War in 2007 No No YES
Iraq exit strategy: “We should just come home.” No No YES
Denounces doctrine of pre-emptive warfare No No YES
Took off the table future pre-emptive strike on Iran No No YES
Took off table future escalation of Afghanistan war No No YES
Calls to bring US military home from all foreign nations No No YES
Calls for foreign policy of military non-interventionism No No YES
Will reduce foreign military expense by $500 billion No No YES
Voted against the Iraq war 2002 No Not in Congress
in 2002 YES
Calls to repeal “Patriot” Act No No YES
Voted against the “Patriot” Act in 2002 No Not in Congress
in 2002 YES
Supports ending all gov’t subsidies to corporations No No YES
Doesn’t receive millions from big corporations No No YES
Wants to end the “inflation” tax which hurts the poor No No YES
Wrote bill to protect Social Security fund No No YES
Would end federal war against medicinal marijuana No No YES
End income tax on tips and gratuities No No YES
Opposes delegation of Congressional authority to President No No YES
Supports ending failed federal war on marijuana users No No YES

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 02/01/2008
- janmB I'm a Fan of janmB 7 fans permalink

I don't even know why these terms serve a purpose today.
Clinton was VERY conservative with our money and left a SURPLUS. Meanwhile G BUSH was very liberal with our money and we are in huge debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 02/01/2008
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Hillary Clinton has been just as complimentary of Reagan as Barack Obama. He didn't say his ideas were good, he said that Reagan brought the country together with optimism. Learn how to listen and/or read. Besides which, so what! Who cares if he has a shrine to Reagan in his house, he isn't pushing a Reaganite agenda. The estimate is flawed, for everyone. John Kerry said it in 2004. This crap is not news nor is it interesting to people with brains. Get a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 02/01/2008

Liberal is just another label.
I'm a liberal, unless it comes to things like pedophiles or people who prey on old people- then I'm an arch conservative.
I'm extremely conservative when it comes to considering it an act of treason to out a CIA agent. Same goes with borrowing money from China to pay for the Iraq war.
To wit, I am liberal on many things, but my conservative stances tend to balance things out.
We need to stop forcing candidates into boxes labeled Liberal, Conservative, ad nauseam.
We aren't 100 percent one way and we are silly to expect our legislators to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 02/01/2008
- Shortyfuse I'm a Fan of Shortyfuse 4 fans permalink
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To me this election is about an out of control foreign policy vs. a sane domestic policy.
We might have been ok with free trade if Bush would nothave been THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. A little capitalism in third world rat holes would have been ok. We all dreamed of products from distant lands. We just did not think that it was going to be our products and our jobs. Add the overwhelming rise in MILITARY spending ( why don't the candidates not bring that up) and we are in deep trouble. Just like the neo con want us to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 02/01/2008

Well, we are now left with two "centrists" for the Democratic nomination and both want to build a bridge back to the 20th century.
Hillary & Bill will return us to the Clinton days of the 90's.
Barack & Teddy will take us back to the Camelot days of the "excesses" of the 60's.
McCain, of course, wants to return to the Middle Ages.
Aren't we fortunate to have 3 wonderful choices.
Let's draft Nader. We could really use a truly progressive leader for a real change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 02/01/2008
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So what's the problem with being "Liberal?" Why do Democrats always run away from that term? Usually at a Hollywood cocktail party, it is much more of an insult to be called "Conservative."

Yet, the Republican Candidates argue over who is the MOST Conservative.

If America is swinging Left, as many suggest, being the most Liberal candidate should be a asset, not something that Jason would have to waste bandwidth denying.

It must be difficult, knowing that the only way you can get elected, is to hide who you really are. Perhaps that's why you tend to attack homosexual Republicans so viciously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 02/01/2008
- DocTwain I'm a Fan of DocTwain 110 fans permalink
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"The Democratic leadership moved to kick Kucinich's bill into committee, where it could be effectively killed. They didn't do this out of kinship with Dick Cheney! They did it because they just didn't need the grief that would ensue if they took up the impeachment issue."

It's obvious that Mr. Linkins is just another DLC-style fellow-traveler in the supply-side/neocon revolution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 02/01/2008
- gregjones I'm a Fan of gregjones 16 fans permalink
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BEWARE !!! Hillary's so-called 'Universal' Health Care Plan is to make it AGAINST THE LAW FOR ANYONE TO NOT BUY THEIR OWN HEALTH INSURANCE (LIKE AUTO INSURANCE)That's not health care....that's just a law (that's what mandate means) !!!!! Under Hillary's health care plan everyone who breaks her law and does not buy their own health coverage (if not offered through their job) would be fined and wages could be garnished. Also, everyone would have to prove that they already have health insurance (show an insurance policy) before they could get a new job if that new job does not offer coverage.If people could afford health care they would have it.To make it a law will just make people unable to afford the coverage afraid to go to the hospital when ill in fear of getting caught breaking the law (without coverage). TERRIBLE !!! DON'T BE FOOLED AMERICA !!!!!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 02/01/2008

I really have a hard time understanding the point of any Jason Linkins' posts. They offer faulty logic and inane assumptions as proof of - what exactly?

You lost any credibility you MAY have had in the second sentence when you call Obama a huge Reagan fan. All that tells me is that you are overly biased in favor of Hillary (since no one else is running and this is a "liberal" site) and are unable to form a coherent thought based on fairly straightforward information.

Next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 02/01/2008
- mouselion I'm a Fan of mouselion 120 fans permalink
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The truly most liberal senators will be the first to tell you that they don't want impeachment proceedings at all because there is too much to be done at this point, it would be counter-productive.

Also, it should be noted that GWB can not pardon himself at all, or Cheney (since he has not been indicted for anything at this time). Perhaps the rationale could be that more can be done which can stick, once they're out of office.

On being his 'liberalrating': Obama is more slightly left-of-center (with some right-of-center leanings at times), compared to the most liberal senators -- by my discernment of their congressional performances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 02/01/2008

How predictable was this tripe? "WAaahh... the results displease me!! They must be wrong!!"

This guy NEVER makes a real point. He just whines day after day, month after month.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 02/01/2008

Vote by vote, speech by speech, published position by position Obama has personally documented he believes increasing the power and control of politicians is the answer to most all problems. Obama, if not the most, is certainly one of the most liberal Washington politicians. Whether you like it or not, you've got to run with the record you have not the record you need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 AM on 02/01/2008

I am a Liberal not a conservative. Maybe if we can act like it, instead of pretending to be a conservative, we can get our base out to go and vote instead of sitting it out. Oh wait, that is what Obama is making happen! Rejuvinating the base because he acts like a Democrat not a Neo Con. In my book there are 3 kinds, Dems, Reps, and NEOcons Hillary and John McCain are NEOcons. Obama wins!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 AM on 02/01/2008
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