Obama Defeats Clinton in Maine Caucuses

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GLENN ADAMS | February 10, 2008 11:02 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., greets supporters following a Stand For Change rally Sunday, Feb. 10, 2008, in Virginia Beach, Va. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)

AUGUSTA, Maine — Barack Obama defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton in Maine presidential caucuses Sunday, grabbing a majority of delegates as the state's Democrats overlooked the snowy weather and turned out in heavy numbers for municipal gatherings.

Democrats in 420 Maine towns and cities were deciding how the state's 24 delegates will be allotted at the party's national convention in August. Despite the weather, turnout was "incredible," party executive director Arden Manning said.

With 99 percent of the participating precincts reporting, Obama led in state delegates elected over Clinton, 2,079 to 1,396, with 18 uncommitted.

Obama exulted in his recent victories in Maine and elsewhere, telling a crowd of 18,000 Sunday evening in Virginia Beach, Va., that "we have won on the Atlantic Coast, we have won on the Gulf Coast, we have won on the Pacific Coast" and places in between.

Obama won 15 of Maine's delegates to the national convention and Clinton won nine. In the overall race for the nomination, Clinton leads with 1,136, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Obama has 1,108.

The voting came a day after Obama and Clinton made personal appeals here, and after Obama picked up wins in Louisiana, Nebraska and Washington.

Organizers had expected heavy participation at the caucuses, but snow was falling and gusting winds hit as many of the gatherings were scheduled.

The weather didn't appear to have hurt turnout. Caucuses started late in Bangor and several other locations across the state because so many people showed up that they were lined up outside the doors.

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In Maine's largest city, Democrats carrying "Obama" and "Hillary" signs waited to get into the citywide caucus at Portland High School in separate lines that snaked nearly three city blocks in opposite directions.

Colin Johnson, an Obama supporter in Portland, said the Illinois senator is not a typical politician. "I'm convinced he's a once-in-a-generation leader," he said.

"He's young and energetic and Washington and the White House could benefit from some fresh air," said Joe Lewis, another Obama supporter.

But Tony Donovan said Obama can use some more seasoning. Donovan was supporting Clinton because she, like him, was a baby boomer who shared similar values and because she has the experience and the team to lead in Washington.

"Obama's a great guy. He'll be great in eight years," Donovan said. "He doesn't have the experience in the Senate. He doesn't have the experience in Washington. He's not ready."

A line waited to get into Augusta's caucus as Gov. John Baldacci, a Clinton supporter, addressed the crowd of a couple hundred at the city's Cony High School. Asked why he decided to wait in line to participate, John Brandt said, "Getting rid of Republicans, once and for all."

Though Maine's national delegate count is small, Clinton and Obama, along with surrogates, came to the state Saturday as their campaigns drew tighter after Super Tuesday.

Thousands of people packed the Bangor Auditorium to hear Obama on Saturday and hundreds more who weren't allowed inside greeted him as he arrived. People also were stopped at the door as Clinton held a town hall-style gathering nearby at the University of Maine at Orono. She later stopped in Lewiston.

Clinton's daughter, Chelsea, and husband, Bill, also visited, while Obama supporter Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts campaigned in two cities in the days before the vote.

Both campaigns hit Maine heavily with radio and TV advertising, and voters' homes were being called with pre-taped messages in support of both candidates. On Sunday, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Rep. Patrick Kennedy of Rhode Island and Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate, visited Maine caucuses on Obama's behalf.

On Clinton's side, Baldacci, Massachusetts Rep. Jim McGovern and New York Rep. Gregory Meeks campaigned.

The high level of excitement across the state contrasted with earlier expectations that the post-Super Tuesday timing of the caucuses would dampen voter interest.

A competitive GOP race a week earlier also helped to enliven interest in the Maine Republicans' nonbinding caucuses, which were won by Mitt Romney. He dropped out of the race last week, making it likely that Arizona Sen. John McCain would become the GOP nominee.

AUGUSTA, Maine — Barack Obama defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton in Maine presidential caucuses Sunday, grabbing a majority of delegates as the state's Democrats overlooked the snowy weather and tu...
AUGUSTA, Maine — Barack Obama defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton in Maine presidential caucuses Sunday, grabbing a majority of delegates as the state's Democrats overlooked the snowy weather and tu...
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Here is an interesting thought to keep in mind:

Amendment XV to the Constitution gave blacks the right to vote in 1870.

Amendment XIX to the Constitution gave women the right to vote in 1920.

I think America would be more inclined to support Obama than Hillary... based on our country's history.

Just a thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 02/12/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

And yet how many blacks still couldn't vote well into late into the 20th Century? Look at Florida and elsewhere; they are still being denied the right to enter the polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 AM on 02/12/2008
- Karenina44 I'm a Fan of Karenina44 5 fans permalink

Whether you are for Clinton or Obama, those of you who are concerned about the super delegate situation, I strongly urge you to lodge your opinion with the DNC ... http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact

Remember, bringing our voices together is the only way to rock the establishment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 02/11/2008

I just emailed them..thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 02/12/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

REASONS TO BE PROUD OF THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN

HILLARY HAS,...

- Successfully established herself as the presumptive, established Democratic nominee.
- Campaigned on the same, strong message, consistenly from day one.
- Inspired, motivated, & grown the Democratic Party
- Run on her merits, not reallying of the efforts of her husband, or his record.
- Put together the best politcal minds & experienced advisors to help in her campaign.
- Run a clean, respectful, unifying campaign.
- Successfully raised & manage all the funds necessary for her campaign.
- Avoided campaign 're-orgs' & maintained the same key members of her staff.
- Been very competitive in all primaries & caususes

Bottomline: Hillary & her campaign has been an oustanding success!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 02/11/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

Her presumed status as the ineluctable nominee that the media has tried to sell us over the last year evaporated within a few weeks.

That's an outstanding failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 AM on 02/12/2008

my previous post was supposed to appear as a reply to horacekent...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 02/12/2008

Ouch...

One more post like this and I might have to become a fan of horacekent....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 02/12/2008
- Gabrielle I'm a Fan of Gabrielle 17 fans permalink
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BILLARY'S TOAST!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 02/12/2008

OH YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!11

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 02/11/2008

I caucused yesterday in Maine. My town went nearly 2 to1 for Obama. We had lines out the door as Independents declared as Democrats and lined up in a big way behind Obama. We had nearly 800 people attend. The republicans had 104 at their caucus last week. The delegates awarded to the State convention were 28 to 11. I got elected as a delegate. The State of Maine is a practical sort of place. The Maine democrats want to beat the republicans and get the country headed towards less partisanship and more partnership. We have lots of hard work to do to deal with poverty, health care, war in general, an energy crisis, and global warming (I’m sure I’ve left a lot out!)…We are not going to get anything done if we are not talking to each other….Obama will facilitate a bridging of the parties...he’ll break the logjam and get us moving on these huge issues…..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 02/11/2008
- Openeyes I'm a Fan of Openeyes 18 fans permalink

I want to thank everyone who turned out to vote in Maine. I live in a small town No. Calif. and it was 65 degrees and sunny here, and I only had to walk 2 blocks to drop off my ballot on SuperTuesday.
Thank you for putting the lie to the myth that only Republicans go out in bad weather to vote. California voted early enough this year that the race wasn't already decided, so we're watching to see how it unfolds. I'm personally for Obama, but the important thing is to get as many out for the Democratic primaries and caucuses now and in keep generating enthusiasm for turnout in November. More and more stories about record turnout do have an effect.

Thanks to you and everyone else making the effort to vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 02/11/2008

We were/are pretty fired up! Thank you and lets keep it going!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 02/11/2008

Obama is not strong in the states the Democrats need to win. Hillary C has won 2 or 3 times as many electoral college votes as Obama so far - she already has won states with 215 votes out of the 270 needed to win the general election. That's why in my opinion a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain. It's the old McGovern-Mondale trap of the candidate that can win the primaries but not the election, and I just hope Obamania doesn't spread to other states like Texas and Pennsylvania we need to win.
Don't ask me why the delegate counts don't reflect the electoral college apportionment!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 02/11/2008

I understand the fear of losing to republicans again. Your argument here is not logical however...it leaves out the many, many Hillary supporters who will vote for Barack in November and Barack won't draw the anti-Hillary republicans out to vote against him..and based on my caucus experience some republicans and loads of independents are already coming out for Barack....the electoral college is irrelevant at this stage..Barack won’t lose California to McCain..there is no logical and holistic argument that can make that case....don’t worry...I respect the Hillary folks...but Obama is the candidate for all Democrats and most American Citizens...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 02/12/2008
- Karenina44 I'm a Fan of Karenina44 5 fans permalink

Thanks to all of you in Maine who came out on a snowy winter day to give a boost to Obama.

Keep up the momentum!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 02/11/2008
- shedances I'm a Fan of shedances 41 fans permalink
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Big loss in Maine.

The outcome to Obama there surprised me, especially since Clinton won NH & I can just imagine she had counted on Maine, as well. What concerns me, at this stage, is how some Democratic voters seem to negatively associate the Clinton name far more than they do Hillary, on important issues ... as if her surname (not her, particularly) were some 'known-hazard' to be avoided.

Truly, I don't think that's a fair past asssessment of all that the Clintons have done for our country ~ especially given the strong state our economy & international affairs were in prior to George Bush Jr. As anyone can, too, by her interviews ~ Hillary Clinton is a very different person than her husband, Bill; but, both are brilliant people. She is (arguably) one of the smartest female candidates the Democratic party could ever hope to select for this election. I hope we give her that chance, and pick her as our party's nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 02/11/2008

I believe that you need to review a little history in the context of your remark that "...strong state our economy & international affairs were in..."

The clintons cut 500,000 people from the US military making the military incapable of staffing the missions that the fool Bush sent them on.

The clintons did nothing about the bombing of the World Trade Center and the USS Cole.

The clintons ran from Somalia with their tails between their legs teaching terrorists that it's easy to defeat America by killing a handful of our soldiers.

The clintons were acutely aware of the alQuaeda and binLaden threat according to Richard Clarke, but chose to do nothing about it.

The stock markets tanked during clintons last year in office with the NASDAQ losing half it's value between March 2000 and January 2001.

India and Pakistan developed nuclear weapons under the auspices of the clintons.

The Taliban took control of Afghanistan under the watchful eye of the clintons.

The clintons took bribes from the Communist Chinese Army and granted MFN status to China.

Clintons boosted Arafat, whose refusal to accept concessions from Israel led to the current bloodshed.


So much for "strong state our economy & international affairs"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 02/11/2008
- ljsfolly I'm a Fan of ljsfolly 6 fans permalink

As I see it, and I hold no claim to know a whole lot, those supporting Hillary fear change. They want to go back to the 90's and have good times and economies but......the dot coms came to be and blew the economy outta the water and Bill into the black when he left the oval. Folks there is not dot com biggie coming down the road to Hillary. She wants to force you and me to buy the healthcare SHE wants us to buy and that doesn't feel like any democracy I have known. To garnish the wages of those who fall short in affording what she is forcing makes me sad as she doesn't see what she has done with her deals with the pharma to get the healthcare they want us to pay for. All those lobbbyists that have been paying her campaign bill will come to roost on her door and want repayment for the money spent. That is why Barack said no to them. For all those who think Barack is shallow hasn't taken the time to read his books just like Hillary didn't take the time to read the NIE report about Iraq and signed on to the bush war that has killed and maimed so many of our young. Of course bushie has had to be forced to even try to take care of those maimed as he has to face us still but if he could have he would have stiffed them too. Hillary doesn't mean change of anything but the dem in the name and not repub. We need fresh air and a new direction where the world won't be ashamed to deal with us and maybe even respect the country again. Hillary and her clap clap point point cackle cackle has nothing but old news and bad stuff in her bag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 02/11/2008

Obama will never be willing to pay the political price for a retreat from Iraq. In fact Obama wants to keep US combat troops in Iraq forever.

"Sen. Barack Obama took a very similar position, saying some U.S. troops would remain for an indefinite period for "counterterrorism activities," which we presume means combat troops."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 02/11/2008
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You need to clean the wax out of your ears and buy some Windex for your crystal ball.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 02/11/2008

I don't know if this is the right spot - but i wanted to make a general comment/idea.
i think that if we elect Hillary as President with Barack as VP - and then add Bill Clinton in the mix with the team - we could get vision, tough work done in an expeditious manner and get the strength of Bill's experience - we could build something in this country that would truly alter the future. And we could have Hillary for one or two terms and then Barack for one or two terms and really carve out new territory and new thinking for our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 02/11/2008

Obamanistas are rude and crude, interesting if Mr Obama should win the nom I think he count on about 25 percent of Hillary supporters, it is hard to vote for someone with such cooky supporters and an "60,s" mindset, with the big "lovein" planned for Washington.

Are you all gonna smoke pot and walk around huggin and a kissin Newt Gingrich Tom Delay Mitch Mconnell and alike?.

Oh I got it Obama is just gonna make "proclimations" and all will bow to his will and gladly follow his lead.

I noticed he hedged on his "bring the troops home" last night? LOL!!!!

He is gonna double cross his sorry ass supporters so quick it will make your head spin..LMOA!!!!

Obama's bullshit is just that.He aint "got no game"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 02/11/2008
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Are you high, ScarletPimperneI?

I caucused yesterday in Portland Maine. The crowd was diverse in age and culture - it was definitely not a hippie love-in. Their were little old white ladies in pantsuit with Obama signs! High on Geratol, I s'pose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 02/11/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

PMS
Oh how could that be ???
Most Obamans insist All the little old white ladies are the only ones voting for Hillary !!!!
I think you need a dose of Geratol !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 02/11/2008

"No one doubts, or at least no one who is honest does, that both racism and sexism come into play as people decide between Clinton and Obama, but could it be that people are more willing to admit that they won’t vote for the woman than that they won’t vote for the black?

If this is happening even among us good Democrats, what does that say about Obama’s strength in a general election? Not pretty questions. Not a fair world.

But for Democrats who want to win, these are questions that must be addressed." Susan Estrich

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 02/11/2008
- Ohg I'm a Fan of Ohg 5 fans permalink

Obama has net defeated anyone. Hillary has not lost. This is not a contest of strategies and points earned. We are watching history unfold as Obama fulfills the destiny of this great country...
Ohg...
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/02/11/barack-obama-the-color-of-water/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 02/11/2008
- KaAp I'm a Fan of KaAp 21 fans permalink

Obama supporters: as much as these wins and the grammy are wonderful wonderful news ... do not keep your eye off the ball ... the Clintons are like cockroaches or vampires or zombies pretty hard to kill or get rid off and they keep coming back ... let us keep working and keep supporting Obama without a momnent's lapse ... please please please I would hate to celebrate while they do one more dirty trick or one more yucky tactic ... it is important to keep the ground game on so we can win

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 02/11/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

10-4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 02/11/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

KaAp
Speaking of cockroach,thats a typical Obama worshipper !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 02/11/2008

Clinton supporters, let us let all of the black folks vote for him. We will vote for John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 02/11/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

Latest election results, Obama takes the overall
lead in delegate count.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/delegate_counts.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 02/11/2008

Those delegate counts are estimates. Pledged delegates are assigned to the candidate, but the superdelegates are not. In some cases, pledged delegates aren't actually assigned until the state holds it's state convention some time after the primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 02/11/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 02/11/2008

huh??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 02/11/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

The funny thing is - Obama is whoop'in up on the Clintons pretty good - yet Hillary's questioning wether Barack could handle McCain.

I think Billary should concern themselves with the fight their LOSING RIGHT NOW, instead of shrilling about how they 'won't get knocked-out' & 'are ready to take on McCain anywhere, anytime".

The Billary campaign is getting its clock cleaned by the junior senator from Illinois.

My advice to them - Get up off the ground, pick you teeth up, & get ready for some more a$$ whoop'in from Barack.

Go Obama!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 AM on 02/11/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

...YES WE CAN!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 02/11/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

Whos Billary ?????????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 02/11/2008
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