Edwards Endorsement For Obama: Speculation Grows

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UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time's Mark Halperin is teasing as much at his Web site, with a photo of Edwards and the text, "Ready to choose? Ready to hope?"

Edwards has certainly dropped some hints in recent days. He's chided Hillary Clinton over her comments about race, said he can't figure out how Clinton could ever win the nomination, and even said he planned to endorse the person he voted for in North Carolina's primary, using (it seems) the word "him."

That said, in an interview with People magazine, Edwards said of Obama, "Sometimes I want to see more substance under the rhetoric."

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UPDATE: 2/21: Although David Plouffe wasn't in town meeting John Edwards, it appears he was meeting with Edwards' supporters:

About two dozen Democrats gathered in the law offices of Kirby & Holt at noon today to listen to a one-hour talk by David Plouffe, the campaign manager for Barack Obama.


Several participants said there was no explicit pitch for the backers of former Sen. John Edwards. In fact, Plouffe went out of his way to say he understood that some Edwards backers may not be ready to make another choice yet, Rob Christensen reports.

UPDATE 2/21: Obama campaign manager was spotted in the homestate of John Edwards, a full two months before the state's primary:

Plouffe swore up and down to the paper that he wasn't there on a stealth mission to court Edwards' endorsement. Instead, he was there to raise money and organize, in the believe that North Carolina's May 6th primary could prove pivotal.


Plouffe seems like a pretty major player to be spending time merely organizing in a state who's primary is over two months away, but we'll take his word for it.

UPDATE 2/18:Following on yesterday's meeting Barack Obama adopted the rhetoric of his formal rival, albeit without providing much information about the substance of their conversation:

"I think John still has an enormous following, I think he has a lot of credibility and so we would love to have his support," Obama said. "But right now, what I think is most important is for me to make sure that I am getting out and talking to voters."


What will be "most helpful ultimately," Obama said, "is that the people have a sense that I will be fighting for them in the White House, that my priorities are their priorities. If they know that, then the endorsements will probably have less sway."

UPDATE 2/17: John Edwards and Barack Obama have finally had their private meeting in Chapel Hill:

Mr. Obama, who canceled an afternoon campaign trip to Wisconsin, flew to Chapel Hill, N.C., to meet with John and Elizabeth Edwards this morning. The meeting was quietly rescheduled after a session Monday with the two men was postponed because too much attention was being paid to it and camera crews were staking out Mr. Edwards' home.

Obama has said not to expect much out of the meeting:

"I don't think there's any imminent news," Obama told CBS affiliate WISC-TV this afternoon. "We were exchanging views, he was giving me some thoughts, and obviosuly he's gonna be a big force in the Democratic party for many years to come."


Campaign officials would not specify whether the meeting included a promise of an Edwards endorsement.

Also, AP reports tonight that Clinton has been wooing the Edwardses more effectively:

People close to the Edwardses, speaking privately, say they have been torn about whom to support. The former North Carolina senator is concerned that Obama may not be ready for the presidency and that his health care plan is inferior. But Edwards was highly critical of Clinton - her policies, her ties to special interests and her character - during his campaign, making it more difficult to support her now.


The couple has been impressed with Clinton, who has more effectively courted them since the 2004 vice presidential nominee dropped out, people who talk to the Edwardses say. Obama has been less attentive, they say, and some of those close to the Edwardses have been annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others.

Still, since Edwards has left the race, Obama often praises him in public. This week he told Wisconsin voters that Edwards will "be a major voice in the Democratic party for years to come, and I want him involved and partnering with me in moving this country forward."

UPDATE 2/15: Edwards' top backers are tilting overwhelmingly to Obama:

Jim and Susan Phillips were loyal supporters of fellow North Carolina Democrat John Edwards and backed up their support with money. But a day after Edwards dropped out of the presidential race last month, Susan Phillips sent $500 to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.


"He is the most likely guy to bring people together and the guy with the most potential to fundamentally change the way we do business in the United States," said Jim Phillips, a Greensboro lawyer and chairman of the UNC system board of governors.

Of the $44 million Edwards raised through December, more than $2.6 million came from the Carolinas.

Interviews with nearly 20 of Edwards' top contributors in the Carolinas, selected randomly, showed a majority of them tilting toward Obama, with some undecided.

No contributors said they're ready to back Hillary Clinton.

UPDATE 2/13: John Edwards is "as split as the party he once hoped to lead -- and is seriously considering supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, despite the sharp criticism he leveled at her on the campaign trail, according to former aides and advisers," ABC News reports:

In deciding between his one-time rivals, Edwards appears deeply divided. Several former advisers likened his thought process to a heart-versus-head split -- with his heart favoring Sen. Barack Obama's strong message of change, and his head attracted to Clinton's tested nature and commitment to tough fights.


Though he sometimes aligned himself with Obama -- and against Clinton -- as a candidate, several Edwards campaign insiders say the former senator began to sour on Obama toward the end of his own campaign, and ultimately left the race questioning whether Obama had the toughness needed to prevail in a presidential race.

"He is much more torn than people realize," said one former aide who has stayed in contact with Edwards. "Honestly, he has serious reservations about both of them."

UPDATE: Tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards has been postponed, according to ABC's Political Radar:

While it is unclear which party ultimately pulled the plug on tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards, sources indicate the meeting will be rescheduled in coming days.


No cause was given for the abrupt rescheduling but sources have indicated that the Obama campaign and Edwards wished that the meeting would be done in private without massive media attention.

Former Sen. John Edwards "met with Hillary Clinton Thursday in North Carolina, and is meeting with Barack Obama Monday, to discuss a possible primary endorsement." CNN reports:

The Thursday meeting, which took place at Edwards' home in Chapel Hill, was followed by a Saturday night session during which the former North Carolina senator and several longtime advisers discussed many issues, including which candidate he should endorse. [...]


At a Chapel Hill party yesterday for Edwards supporters, he gave no indication who he might endorse, or whether that endorsement is imminent. Some advisers are encouraging him not to endorse.

The former candidate is weighing a number of considerations before making his choice - including electability, and who will best promote his ideas.

There are policy considerations at play: there is a sense within the Edwards camp that Clinton's policies could be better for working class Americans. But Obama's anti-lobbyist proposals are more aligned with Edwards' politics.

In response to a CNN report that Elizabeth Edwards may favor Obama over Clinton, sources close to the Edwards family flatly deny that she favors one candidate over the other.

Greg Sargent at TPM Election Central spoke to an Edwards aide who offered more details, including: "There's a greater than 50% chance he will endorse."

The Edwards aide cautioned against reading too much into the meetings, saying that he'd been talking to both of them before. "He's torn," the aide said "He has reservations about Hillary, which are pretty apparent."


On Obama, the aide says, Edwards worries "whether he's tough enough to be President of the United States. If you look at what Edwards ran on, which is not negotiating with the special interests, taking away their power, that's pretty different than the Obama model."

The Edwards aide added that Obama's lack of a health care plan with a "mandate" is a "tough hurdle for him to get over." He added, however, that Edwards is much more in line with Obama on other issues.

 
 

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Edwards is such a drama queen. I believe he's lost nearly all respect and credibility. He didn't have to endorse any one, but he could have took the more dignified route of Joe Biden and Al Gore who announced they would stay neutral. Or have the balls to endorse promptly like Kucinich did because he really believed Obama was the next best thing to himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 02/24/2008


Jeeze - Obama supporters are clueless about politics.

You don't need Edwards or his supporters to win the general?

You don't need Hillary's supporters to win the general?

You're going to win against ROVE & company all on your own?

And in November when the GOP starts revealing all the secret terrorist plots against the USA using the old "mushroom cloud" scare tactics, Obama will say:

"We have HOPE to keep us safe. The Audacity of HOPE will protect us from terrorists!"

Yeah - you'll win against McCain. Right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 02/24/2008

Edward's relevance diminishes more and more each Tuesday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 02/22/2008

Barack Obama dose not need John Edwards!!! Tell one reason why he needs him. I can hear you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 02/22/2008

Mr. Edwards. Thought you cared about the American worker:

Hillary Clinton Flip Flops on NAFTA (Meet The Press)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ0swdRvYgw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 02/21/2008

Dear Senator Edwards:

Please hold off on your endorsement of Obama until you read this website with several informative reports of Obama's dealings with Rezko, the fraudster now under Federal indictment.

Because, once this trial begins in early March, the mainstream press will finally have to pay attention to Obama's questionable ties to Rezko's dubious business deals.

It would be a shame that you would risk your reputation endorsing Obama just weeks prior to the flurry of press this trial will attract.

http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-bagman-is-sent-to-jail-over-35m.html


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 02/19/2008

Hillary really keeps you busy covering her ass on the site, huh Susan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 02/23/2008

Clintom is right about one area Obama doesn't have her experience: From an article on Huffington Post: A Clinto Scandal Primer:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-k-wilson/a-clinton-scandal-primer_b_87792.html

includes their greates hits like Whitewater, Travelgate, Rose Law Firm, Vince Foster

Then you can Google HRClinton/ Norman Hsu....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 02/22/2008

Google: Hillary Clinto scandals and wait for the barrage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 02/22/2008

The A to Z Guide of Clinton Scandals

Whitewatergate, Travelgate, Cattlegate and now Indonesiagate . . . there seems to be more gates in the Clinton White House than on the barns of America.

So just in case you've lost track of the scandals that have hit this current White House, The Post's Deborah Orin and Thomas Galvin have pieced together your cut-out-and-keep A to Z guide of Clinton scandals . . from Arkansas to Zippers.

A is for Arkansas, where Bill Clinton got his political start, where Hillary Rodham Clinton worked at Rose Law Firm, and where Whitewater began as a land deal between the Clintons and Jim and Susan McDougal.

B is for Billing-gate, Hillary Clinton's missing law-billing records. Those records -- which raised questions about Mrs. Clinton's role in the Castle Grande deal -- were subpoenaed in 1994. They were missing until early 1996, when they turned up in a White House room next to her office. She says she doesn't know how they got there.

C is for Cattlegate, Hillary Clinton's mysterious ability to turn a $1,000 investment into a $100,000 profit on cattle futures, a feat experts say was virtually impossible in normal trading.

C is also for Castle Grande, a real-estate scheme that federal regulators say was a sham. A federal inspector general's report found Hillary Clinton drew up the legal papers that were used to improperly funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars to Seth Ward, father-in-law of her ex-law partner Webster Hubbell.

D is for Billy Dale, the career head of the White House Travel Office, who was fired along with six other career staffers, to make way for Clinton cronies in Travelgate. The White House then brought in the FBI to justify the firing, and Dale was hit with criminal charges that wrecked his life for two years. A jury cleared him in just two hours.

E is for Mike Espy, the former agriculture secretary who was forced out over charges that he got gifts and favors from Arkansas-based Tyson foods, whose owners were longtime Clinton backers. A special counsel has brought several indictments, though not against Espy.

F is for Filegate, the improper White House rummaging through 900 FBI files on Republican officials in the Bush and Reagan administration. The White House says it was an innocent snafu. Republicans suspect an enemies list. Whitewater independent counsel Ken Starr and several congressional committees are probing.

G is for Golfgate, ex-White House aide David Watkins' improper use of presidential helicopters for a personal golf outing. He was forced to resign. In the 1992 presidential campaign, Clinton aides tried to use taxpayer funds to help settle a sexual harassment case filed by a fellow campaign worker against Watkins.

H is for Hillary Clinton, whose role has been questioned in Filegate, Travelgate, Billing-gate, Whitewater and Castle Grande. She denies any wrongdoing.

H is also for Hubbell, in jail after pleading guilty to bilking law clients on charges brought by Whitewater independent counsel Starr. Hubbell was previously the associate attorney general, the No. 3 Justice Department office.

I is for Indonesiagate, featuring the Lippo group, a firm with long-standing ties to Bill Clinton, Clinton cronies and Arkansas. Republicans want to know why an Indonesian couple -- of apparently modest means -- with ties to Lippo gave $452,000 to the Democratic National Committee and what the firm may have gotten in return. Lippo also hired Hubbell, at a reported fee of $250,000, for the five months when he left the White House and went to jail.

J is for Paula Jones, who accuses President Clinton of sexual harassment, saying he dropped his pants and asked for oral sex in an Arkansas hotel room while he was governor and she was a state employee. The U.S. Supreme Court will rule this fall on whether her case must wait until after Clinton leaves office, as he demands.

K is for William Kennedy, another ex-Hillary Clinton law partner who became a White House lawyer and was forced to resign after concealing his failure to pay nanny taxes. He was reprimanded for his role in Travelgate.

L is for Craig Livingstone, the ex-bar bouncer with a history of drug use who was the head of White House security. Two FBI agents say it was Hillary Clinton who demanded his hiring, which she denies. Disgraced Clinton political guru Dick Morris's hooker pal, Sherry Rowlands, claims Morris told her a "paranoid" Hillary Clinton was behind Filegate. He says he only told her that's what polls show.

M is for Jim and Susan McDougal, the Clintons' Whitewater partners, both of whom have been convicted of fraud. Jim McDougal is said to be helping Whitewater independent counsel Starr. Susan McDougal is in jail for refusing to say whether President Clinton lied when he denied knowing about an illegal $300,000 loan to bail out Whitewater. The loan wasn't repaid, and taxpayers were left holding the bag.

M is also for disgraced political guru Dick Morris.

N is for Bernard Nussbaum, the former White House lawyer who barred federal investigators from searching Vince Foster's office after Foster's death. Nussbaum also withheld Foster's diary on Travelgate problems from federal probers for more than a year. Nussbaum was forced to resign for botching damage-control efforts.

O is for Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary, the frequent flier who drew up an enemies list of reporters, hired an image consultant at taxpayer expense, and has run up huge tabs on overseas trips.

P is for Pardons, which President Clinton has refused to rule out for individuals like Susan McDougal who potentially could provide evidence against him.

P is also for White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, expected to leave in a second Clinton term -- with the prospect that his deputy, Harold Ickes, could replaces him. Senate Republicans want perjury charges brought against Ickes for his answers on Whitewater damage control.

Q is for all the questions -- unanswered -- on Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, Cattlegate and Billgate.

R is for Sherry Rowlands, the $200-an-hour hooker who revealed her ongoing affair with Clinton political guru Dick Morris, the author of Clinton's family-values strategy, forcing Morris to resign.

R is also for the Rose Law Firm, where Hillary Clinton, Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell and William Kennedy were partners, as was Joseph Giroir, a key figure in the Lippo group.

S is for Kenneth Starr, the Whitewater independent counsel probing Filegate, Travelgate and Vince Foster's death. He has won 15 convictions or guilty pleas, including both McDougals and former Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker, who was forced to resign. Starr says his probes are active and ongoing, and there is widespread speculation he will have more indictments after the election, possibly including one of Hillary Clinton.

T is for Travelgate, the Clintons' firing of career travel staffers like Billy Dale to make way for Clinton cronies. White House memos say Hillary Clinton was behind the firings -- she denies it -- and that she was spurred on by Clinton Hollywood pal Harry Thomason, who was seeking a piece of the lucrative White House charter business.

U is for undue influence and the question of whether that is what Lippo was seeking though megabucks contributions to Democrats. Lippo has close ties to Indonesia's brutal dictatorship, responsible for near-genocide in East Timor, which it occupied two decades ago.

V is for Vince Foster, the former Hillary Clinton law partner who became a White House lawyer and was found dead, an apparent suicide with a gunshot wound to the head. He apparently was a central figure in Travelgate and Filegate and handled Whitewater matters for the Clintons. Starr is examining his death and has yet to confirm former prober Bob Fiske's conclusion that it was a suicide in the park where Foster was found.

W is for Whitewater, the Arkansas land deal that started it all, with questions about whether the Clintons improperly benefitted from funds Jim McDougal's Madison Guarantee savings-and-loan, which went belly up, costing taxpayers an estimated $60 million.

X is for the Xeroxed copy of Hillary Clinton's law billing records that were found in the white House book room, two years after they were first sought. The pages had Mrs. Clinton's fingerprints around the section on Castle Grande - there were red ink notations in the late Vince Foster's handwriting.

Y is for the the young White House aides who were hired by the Clinton administration despite FBI background checks that found "recent" use of hard drugs like cocaine, crack and hallucinogens.

Z is for zippers -- the one Paula Jones claims that the then-Arkansas governor undid (see J) and the one Gennifer Flowers claims Clinton undid during what she insists was a long-running affair. He denies the claims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 02/22/2008

You used Deborah Orin's name in the beginning of your diatribe... be advised if you had done your homework, you would have known thar she died more than a year ago...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 02/22/2008

i didn't use anyone's name this is a cut and paste from one of many web links on Clinton scandals. If you had done your homework, you would have tried Google first and found it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 02/23/2008

old news

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 02/22/2008

Norman Hsu!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 02/22/2008

Obama campaign "helping to place" Hsu story.

1-Hsu gave $5000 to Obama"s HOPEFUND

2-Julianna Smoot, national finance director of Barack Obama"s presidential campaign, originally sought the support of Norman Hsu, the top fund-raiser for Hillary Clinton who is now the subject of a federal criminal complaint accusing him of wire, mail and election fraud.

3-Before becoming a major bundler for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, disgraced Democratic donor Norman Hsu helped host a 2005 California event for Barack Obama's political action committee and introduced the senator from Illinois to one of the biggest fundraisers for his presidential bid, Mark Gorenberg.

4-Obama alerted the cops to arrest Hsu to embarrass Clinton

His media spinmeister-David Axelrod was tagged by the New Yokr Times as being the likely source behind leaks to the Chicago media regarding scandalous information about Obama's lead political opponent during his 2004 Senate run at a particulary opportune time during the Democratic primary for Senate.

So would the Obama campaign leak opposition "research" to be used against his opponents when running for the President?

Why not? Just politics as usual for the "candidate for change."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/11/obamas_idea_of_an_ethical_camp.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 02/22/2008

Is that kind of like whitewater? Or maybe those cattle futures? oh wait wait more like that Kazachstan deal, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 02/21/2008

Was it 60 million that was spent on Whitewater just to prove it nothing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 02/24/2008

You're flagged for your troll-like conduct. Get it together already!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 02/21/2008

i can not believe how uncritical you are. i read the story at the URL you posted and does not sa anything about obama except that he knows a criminal. remeber rezko is not obama's child, and is a grown up man who made bad choices. so why do you want to attribute someone's crime to an other person. and for your info, obama relations with this guy existed oprior to the scandal. So please drop this nonsense and if you do not want to vote for him, then don't. But do not smear him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 02/21/2008

Hillary knows a crimminal too...and he was even impeached!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 02/21/2008

And disbarred.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 02/22/2008

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/files/2008/01/clintons_rezko.jpg

Hillary: 4,000 dead American heroes. 19,000+ injured. She voted for that. 23 brave Senator didn't. Obama railing againt the war

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 02/21/2008

He has just voted to fund it, again and again

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 02/24/2008

A.U.M.F. was a firewall to stop and divert Bush from a fall (pre congressional elections) invasion (liberation) of Baghdad.

The US campaign to change the Iraqi regime started at end-July (2002), quietly, step-by-step, without a war declaration, without congressional approval and without much noise.

The Nation: "Antiwar forces in the United States and around the world can claim the recent UN resolution as a partial victory. The resolution does not endorse the use of force; it redefines the Iraq crisis, at least in the international arena, as one of disarmament, not regime change; and it will at least delay a US attack".

Hillary was PRO U.N., Bush was Pro War, Obama was PRO doing nothing
http://www.zendurl.com/s/scorched///prewar.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 02/22/2008

Edwards should not endorse and should follow the lead of our rightful President, Al Gore by insisting the voters decide this and nothing like Chicago 1968 come out again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 02/18/2008

Edwards will be somebody's VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 02/21/2008

As a democrat and an Edwards supporter I can appreciate the need to get an "endorsement". However, I think Edwards also realizes that his supporters are individualistic and will follow their own heart. I don't need a politician to to tell me how I should vote or whom I should support, so regardless of Edwards decision, my support will be for Barack Obama.

After reading his book "The Audacity of Hope" I realized that this man is far deeper than his speeches. That his understanding of the democratic process reaches beyond the bickering and petty discourse that has enshrouded the process for the last three decades. His vision of change is paramount if we are to move forward and change the mindset of Washington D.C....With Clinton or McCain, I just see the same ole Washington that I have come to despise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 02/18/2008

I thinks Edwards should endorse Hillary Clinton. I think she is far more respectful of Edwards than Obama is...Obama seemed to be distancing himself from Edwards while answering a question from a reporter today. I think Edwards would have a far greater chance to be President in the future (or Supreme Court Justice or anything he wants) if he endorses Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 02/18/2008

What was the question? Where did you see it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 02/21/2008

where pray, in all those accumulated reports does with work "sneak" appear? You gone Daily News on HP??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 02/18/2008