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Saudis to Execute a Woman for Witchcraft

DONNA ABU-NASR | February 14, 2008 06:49 AM EST | AP


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BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts.

The New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement that the kingdom's religious police who arrested and interrogated Fawza Falih, and the judges who tried her in the northern town of Quraiyat never gave her the opportunity to prove her innocence in the face of "absurd charges that have no basis in law."

Falih's case underscores shortcomings in Saudi Arabia's Islamic legal system in which rules of evidence are shaky, lawyers are not always present and sentences often depend on the whim of judges.

The most frequent victims are women, who already suffer severe restrictions on daily life in Saudi Arabia: They cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative, or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.

Witchcraft is considered an offense against Islam in the conservative kingdom.

In Falih's case, the judges relied on a coerced confession and on the statements of witnesses who said she had "bewitched" them to convict her in April 2006, according to the group.

Falih later retracted her confession in court, claiming it was extracted under duress, and said that as an illiterate woman, she did not understand the document she was forced to fingerprint.

"The fact that Saudi judges still conduct trials for unprovable crimes like 'witchcraft' underscores their inability to carry out objective criminal investigations," said Joe Stork, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch.

There was no immediate comment on the statement from Saudi Arabia, where government offices are closed on Thursdays, the start of the Muslim weekend.

"Fawza Falih's case is an example of how the authorities failed to comply even with existing safeguards in the Saudi justice system," he added.

The Saudi court cited an instance in which a man allegedly became impotent after being bewitched by Falih, the rights group said.

An appeals court ruled in September 2006 that Falih could not be sentenced to death for witchcraft because she had retracted her confession. But a lower court subsequently reissued the death sentence for the benefit of "public interest" and to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country," the group's statement said.

HRW statement came a day after Yakin Erturk, the U.N. special investigator for violence against women, wrapped up a 10-day visit to Saudi Arabia during which she highlighted another controversial case that has attracted international criticism.

Ertuk met with Fatima and Mansour al-Timani, who were forcibly divorced by the wife's family on grounds she had married someone from a lesser tribe.

The couple learned of the divorce on Feb. 25, 2006, when police knocked on their door to serve Mansour the divorce papers.

At a news conference on Wednesday, Erturk said she met the wife and husband who were in a "terrible state of mind" and that Saudi officials had promised her arrangements would be made for the couple's reunion, according to Saudi newspaper Arab News.

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http://hrw.org/english/docs/2008/02/13/saudia18046.htm

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Here's what we do: Throw a naked nine-year old boy in front of the Saudis, and while they're distracted by their boners, we'll sneak in and rescue the woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 02/15/2008

Hey rethugs: Should we bomb the Saudi's since they are so evil? You want to bomb Iran, Why not Arabia as well?

Is this BushCo fault?

Well, they are BFF and so CUTE together:

http://www.dohiyimir.org/2006/03/the_clothes_don.html

And the Saudis created and funded Billions of dollars to the Wahabi sect of Bin Laden, and supplied 75% of the actual 9/11 terrorists.

And following the money, the Bush oil cronies and the Saudis have been the biggest benefactors of 9/11. Add to that, that Condi couldn't be bothered from her shoe shopping to protect us from 9/11 and well, NO wonder there are so many "conspiracy" theories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 02/15/2008

Where is "Bandar Bush"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 02/15/2008
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Crazy and Oil -- bad combination.

These primitive beings are a 1,000 years behind the curve yet (due to our dependence on oil) wield enormous clout in world affairs. Another damn good argument in favor of alternative energy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 02/15/2008

In order to convict someone of witchcraft, wouldn't you actually have to believe in witches?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 02/14/2008

Witches?

They still believe in Genies and flying carpets.

Witches are that much of a Stretch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 02/15/2008
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I've always wondered why men fear women so. From our earliest history among many cultures and religions, civil or religious laws have placed draconian restrictions and severe penalties for infractions on women. They have been deemed soulless, in league with demons, seductresses, mentally insufficient, incompetent. . . all this and more, simply for being a woman. Knowledge and enlightenment are the only solutions to bring parity to all women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 02/14/2008
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"I just don't trust something that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die!" Mr. Garrison South Park.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 02/14/2008

....because all men lived inside of a woman for 40 weeks before being born.

i think that freaks a lot of 'em out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 02/15/2008

During the Burning times in Europe, 1/4 of executed witches were men. In some countries more men were killed.

"Women, it should be noted, were also prominent among the accusers and the witnesses; sometimes trials revealed deadly competition: one midwife or woman convinced of her spiritual powers trying to do in a rival practitioner."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/22/national/22beliefs.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 02/15/2008

You know your screwed if:

1. You are born as a woman in Saudi Arabia.

2. You are related to Rush Limbaugh

3. You are related to Larry Craig.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 02/14/2008

I knew it. They better be careful. Or the Saudi Witch Coven will curse their oil fields.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 02/14/2008
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As long as we keep kissing Saudi ass for oil (following the bush crime family's long-time example), things will never change in their backward misogynistic cesspool of a country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 02/14/2008

You been to "the cesspool", have you?

Well, matey, the country is not misogynistic but the religious fundamentalists. I worked over there 1969-70 when King Faisal was in charge.

One might have called him a classical liberal, who shared the oil wealth with the people, one of his first edicts was to formally outlaw slavery. When the matawah got out of line, he hammered them.

Probably why they offed him.

We had many Saudi friends, both professionally and socially. Yes, there was a lot of the conservative burka tradition. But get one of those women indoors and off comes the black robe and beneath is as individualist a style as one would ever see.

And in private, amongst friends, the woman were outspoken. The culture, like most with a strongly religious underpinning, is hypocritical. The reality in day-to-day life reveals much you would be surprised by.

Conversely, you might contemplate how much of the Arab world hates YOU because of your government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 02/15/2008


I hope Hillary is our next president then
these thugs will have to deal with a woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 02/14/2008
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Please, she couldn't even keep Bill in line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 02/14/2008

King Abdullah should pardon the lady and give the guy some Viagra.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 02/14/2008

We should take the Saudi's oil, thereby driving these Neanderthal, sexist dip-shits back to the 7th century, where they can go back to sitting around blowing their camels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 02/14/2008
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These fucking saudies are living in the 13th century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 02/14/2008

This is so Biblical.

Exodus 22:18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

(suffer means "allow")

It says right in our Judeo-Christian Bible that we should kill witches.

I see that Mike Huckabee is promising to bring the Constitution in line with the Bible if he becomes president. We can expect provisions like this.

And he doesn't have to get elected as president. A McCain/Huckabee ticket with McCain getting to old and crazy to remain in office. Then we'd have President Huckabee with his God's Law Constitution.

We can also expect forced head covering, just like in Muslim countries:

1 Corinthians 11:6:

6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.

Really, every time I hear about one of these awful backward legal actions in a Muslim country, I think of the same provisions in the Holy Bible and thank ... well, not God ... that we've fallen away from a Biblical lifestyle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 02/14/2008

As a Christian (for those of us that are) you are supposed to follow Christ's teachings. He never condoned killing people. His interpretation of biblical laws are what we follow. You might remember a 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone' quote of his. Christians don't have to approve sinful acts but we are supposed to love the sinner, hate the sin.
Comparing Christians to Muslims is easy if you know nothing about either religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 02/14/2008

What a moron you are. Father wolf quoted from the bible which you fanatic christians are supposed to follow. He correctly compared the readings in the bible to those in the koran. Like most backwards religions they have ignorant followers who want to make others follow their ignorance. Good for you you are a christian. By your tag name we can see what you want for the rest of us. You are no different in your fanaticism than any other muslim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 02/14/2008
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Bullshit! What directly caused the more rational interpretation Christianity was the rise of secularism! If religious leaders of the various "christian" sects had their way we to would be back in the 13th century, when "bigots burned the man who dared have an enlightened thought!" The most liberal and free societies on this planet are the ones where religion has the least influence!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 02/14/2008
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What's that verse in Leviticus that says NO PORK? We're all going to Hell...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 02/15/2008
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Good post

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 02/15/2008

I am what is called "a red letter" Christian. I only care about the words of Jesus in the Gospels. Even then you have to realize it is a translation of hearsay.

If you are really Christian, you should renounce all of the bible but the Gospels. The other parts of the bible, picked by Constantine, have been used for 2 eons to justify every sort of evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 02/15/2008

I though I was a red letter Christian, but

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-campolo/who-are-red-letter-christ_b_86887.html

rigid definition convinced me I am a lapsed heretical red letter lover of the best words of Christ.

I only care about the words of Jesus in the Gospels. Even then you have to realize it is a translation of hearsay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 02/18/2008

Too bad she did not bewitch them into toads.

They do not honor the women who brought them
into this world. There is no end to their
"traditions".

Perhaps women should take it upon themselves
to defend themselves.

Even death would be better.

Free from men and women who are ignorant.
We come alone...we leave alone.

Who are they to judge.

If they were "bewitched", they should be
castrated for falling under the "spell".

Weak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 02/14/2008
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