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Ohio Primary: Latest News, Polls On Democratic Race

  |   February 15, 2008 05:09 PM


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Clinton: Ohio isn't a "must win." The Columbus Dispatch reports that Sen. Hillary Clinton "said she does not view Ohio as a must-win firewall to keep Sen. Barack Obama from winning the Democratic presidential nomination."

"I really don't think about it like that," Clinton told The Dispatch following a 35-minute speech to 2,600 in Ohio State University's French Field House.


"I think about doing the very best I can. I've got a good campaign here. I've got wonderful, broad support across the state and we're just going to work like crazy to get as many votes as we possibly can and hopefully we'll do well."

Sharpening her contrasts with Obama, Clinton accused him of misleading Ohio Democrats with a direct-mail piece that misrepresented her position on the North American Free Trade Agreement, signed into law by her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

"He's running a campaign where he is obviously taking shots at me," Clinton said. "He's got some mailer I've heard about here in Ohio, going after me on NAFTA. I wasn't in the Senate, I didn't vote on NAFTA. I've obviously got a record where I've taken on the trade issues time and time again. So we're going to be drawing comparisons and contrasts."

Obama: As goes Wisconsin, so goes Ohio. The Wall Street Journal previews the Ohio spin from the Obama camp:

Fresh from big victories in Virginia and Maryland, Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is trying to maximize momentum by framing Tuesday's Wisconsin primary as a test run for Ohio -- a state Sen. Hillary Clinton's supporters have said she must win to remain in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.


With similar demography and slumping manufacturing sectors, the Midwestern states mirror one another. Because Wisconsin is holding a primary rather than a caucus -- Mrs. Clinton has fared better in primaries -- Mr. Obama is trying to raise expectations for his opponent as she lowers them. [...]

The similarities between Ohio and Wisconsin are noteworthy. Both are swing states with populations that are whiter and a bit older than the nation as a whole. Each has an unemployment rate and union membership slightly above the national average. Each ranks near the bottom in prospective employment growth, according to a Moody's Economy.com index. Both are enduring population loss.

"Wisconsin is a little bit of a tell for Ohio," said Ken Goldstein, a professor of political science at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. "Either the Clinton campaign has done a brilliant job of managing expectations, or they're missing an opportunity here and they're in real trouble."

As the industrial Midwest grapples with globalization and the consequent economic insecurity, a study assessing progress among states into the "new economy" published last year by the Kauffman Foundation ranked Ohio 29th and Wisconsin 30th. Lead study author Robert D. Atkinson said, "They both tend to be less dynamic, and they have...similar kinds of economic anxieties."


 
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- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

Excellent Article on ...

Obama basic training:

On the verge of a hectic few weeks leading to Super Tuesday, the crucial Feb. 5 multistate primary including California's, Mack wanted to drill home one of the campaign's key strategies: telling potential voters personal stories of political conversion.

She urged volunteers to hone their own stories of how they came to Obama – something they could compress into 30 seconds on the phone.

Then Mack brought home the point of her story for the crowd of 100 or so eager volunteers, sipping coffee and watching a PowerPoint presentation in the Obama campaign office on a recent Saturday.

"Did that make more impact on you than if I had talked about his health care plan or his stance on the environment?" she asked.

"Just follow Barack's lead and be honest with them," the Web site advises. "You don't need to debate policy or discuss the day's headlines. You have a very personal reason for investing your time and energy in this campaign – that is the most compelling story you can tell."

After all the questions were answered, the campaign put the volunteers to work making phone calls. Some of them sat on the Q Street curb, making calls on their cell phones.

"We can all sleep Feb. 6," Mack told them, "and we can sleep soundly knowing Barack Obama is the Democratic candidate for president.­"


http://www.sacbee.com/111/v-print/story/649427.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 03/03/2008
- 2liveNdie I'm a Fan of 2liveNdie 3 fans permalink

Slim lead after just two weeks ago ahead by double digits? OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 03/02/2008

Just looking at how this campaign is conducted it seems the one that is under the challenge is Hillary; Obama is the unknown and has managed to usurp her.

Donuts anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 03/02/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 47 fans permalink

We can't just keep doing the same thing, as the old joke goes about crazy people, and expect a different result. That's what nominating Hillary Clinton amounts to. She and McCain are old politics, with tired ideas, the same old policies. They both love war and nonsensical spending. They love free trade and call out their party's favored old hacks for advice. They both have their heads in the past. Neither offer transparency or accountability. America desperately needs a new voice, a new way of thinking. When Barack Obama becomes president of the United States the world will look at us differently and we will look at ourselves differently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 03/02/2008
- obamagal I'm a Fan of obamagal 50 fans permalink
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"We can't just keep doing the same thing, as the old joke goes about crazy people, and expect a different result. "

I agree. It's the definition of insanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 03/02/2008

Should he win, who will Senator Obama select for his leadership team? We will end up with all the politicians who supported him in his cabinet and in his administration. Nothing will get done for the next four years. Does he think he will not have political debts to pay off? Does he think he will be able to give those speeches in the Oval Office and get what he wants? I love his speeches but I think we will be in deep trouble if we hire him to lead the most powerful country in the world. What company would hire Senator Obama to be its CEO when he only has middle management experience? Yes, I support Senator Clinton but I will not vote at all if she is not the Democratic nominee for President. After seven years of George Bush, we should have learned what happens when we elect someone who is in way over his head!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 03/02/2008
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If you don’t play it my way I’m going home

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 03/02/2008
- LoloZ I'm a Fan of LoloZ 2 fans permalink

You are deluded! HRC is the most beholden candidate, with all the lobby money she's taken. Look at Obama's FP advisors, just for example, and get a glimpse of what his cabinet might be. They are head and shoulders above anyone advising Hillary. Get some knowledge!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 03/02/2008

Let me see, Obama's campaign to run the country vs Clinton's campaign to run the country. when I keep going over these two campaigns for the last year......­it's a no Brainer! Just counting Clinton's campaign slogans makes me wonder how is she still running. I think she's in denial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 03/02/2008
- gregjones I'm a Fan of gregjones 16 fans permalink
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TEXAS...OH­IO....Here­'s What HILLARY'S 'Mandated' Health Care Plan
FEELS LIke
From A http://www.Blacks4Barack.org Commenter

As a Massachusetts single parent, 2 job holding resident, I wish reporters and interested parties would ask Mitt Romney, our former Governor, about his mandated health insurance plan for all Massachusetts residents he left us with. Ask democrats, republicans and independent voters what we think about this plan. This is the same plan that Hillary wants to adopt. Please do yourself a favor and ask the Massachusetts residents how it feels to no longer have a choice about putting food on the table, because YOU MUST, pay for a premium you can't afford. Ask MA residents how LONG it takes them to get a visit with their PCP (Primary Care Physicians). Ask the MA seniors about their medicine vs health care premium. I can go on, but please ask the questions. Also note that Mitt Romney never gives credit or much talk to his governorship here in Massachusetts, because he KNOWS that Massachusetts RESIDENTS think he is a scam. Mandated health care IS NOT a good plan...TRU­ST ME, and the rest of the MA residents who can vouch this.
Barack has the better plan.



Submitted by a Blacks4Barack Commenter


Seems like the only one who benefits from Hillary's Plan is her buddies at the INSURANCE COMPANIES !

http://www.Blacks4Barack.orgck.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 03/02/2008

Wow! I forgot that the Clintons are also thieves: Mabe they steal this Primary as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 03/02/2008
- kae I'm a Fan of kae 4 fans permalink

polls should be illegal...­....so big brother

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 03/02/2008
- pkafin I'm a Fan of pkafin 22 fans permalink

Asking people to voluntarily give their opinion makes you think of Big Brother?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 AM on 03/02/2008

Hey Hillary Lovers,

Here's some good stuff about your girl

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/29/718285.aspx

Amazing...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 03/01/2008

TO ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS:

For the certain Republican onslaught to come, a suggested show of support against at least one probable tactic, using Obama's middle name as a way to instill fear and bigotry.

Start signing your posts and include as your middle name: "Hussein"

Signed: H 'Hussein' Galal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 03/01/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 47 fans permalink

I like the poster who suggested Barack Who's Sane Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 03/01/2008
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The Clinton spin masters are trying to present a scenario where if Obama doesn't win all four March 4 primary contests by large margins it means the voters are expressing "buyer's remorse. What a crock, the truth is that it is the Clinton's that are experiencing "buyer's remorse" and have lost double digit leads in all four states to a point that all are now competitive. The contests are very close but make no mistake about who is "trending up" and who is "slipping and sliding". I do hope they lose all four states and we can get the Clinton leeches to turn loose of a pathetic strategy of "scorched earth campaigning" to try to draw close enough not to win by any criteria but to convince the super delegates to steal the election for them on the basis of their pathetic fairy tales of electability. Come on Texas, Ohio, Vermont and Rhode Island save us from the Clinton's desperate attempt to destroy the Democrats chances of victory in November. Get "fired up" and burn the leeches!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 03/01/2008
- kempis I'm a Fan of kempis 8 fans permalink

God, did bazillionaire Clinton-hater Richard Mellon Scaife buy the Toledo Blade? There are good reasons to endorse Obama and then there are those of the wingnuttery variety listed in the Blade's endorsement. Pretty awful stuff coming out of a newspaper with a fairly respectable reputation in this region. I'm embarrassed for the Blade's staff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 03/01/2008

susan, i have glimpsed your profile and your "Israel can do no wrong" sentiments come across very obviously. you would do well to remember your first allegiance is to your own country, not a foreign country. the persecution complex works only to a point. Israel is not as innocent and pure as you seem to suggest. don't even try to pull the "you must be an anti-semite" crap with me. i am glad Israel exists, but it's policies are not always right. if i am misreading your comments, i apologize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 02/29/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

First of all, there has not been one instance where I said Israel can do no wrong.

But when Obama is being advised by Malley, a pro-Hamas supporter, I ave a probem with that.

It doesn't bother you that Obama is symathetic to a Palestinian terrorist group?

Are you okay with that?

Did you know Hamas is one of the enemies Obama wants to negotiate with?

You can't negotiate withpeople who have pledged tt destroy the only working Democracy in that egion.

Meet Obama's Advisor on Middle East Policy: Robert Malley, the son of a Syrian who was a close friend to Arafat.

The article below has links to Malley's Middle East philosophy - hint: he thinks Israel is the big problem.


http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/barack_obamas_middle_east_expe.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 03/01/2008
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Oh yes I guess you must be referring to Robert Malley who was: Special Assistant to President Clinton for Arab-Israeli Affairs 1998-2001. Executive Assistant to Samuel Berger National Security Adviser 1996-1998. Director for Democracy, Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs, NSC 1994-1996. THAT guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 03/01/2008

Obama is pro-Israel - this is one of those smear tactics that the Clinton campaign or the Republicans are trying to pitch - either way - I think it's strange that, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and President Bush - all are attacking Barack Obama on the same policies. He must be very dangerous to the establishment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 03/01/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 47 fans permalink

Truly, nothing you have said, Susan, is correct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 03/01/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

INTERESTING CHRON.COM ARTICLE ON POLLS IN GENERAL.


"It's very difficult to poll (a Texas primary) accurately," said Rice University political scientist Earl Black. "And if you've done it, it's hard to know you've done it."

The key to conducting an accurate survey is to predict which registered voters will come to the polls. In polling parlance, it's called "the screen."

Different polls use different methods to create their screens for the all-important "likely voter."

Some eliminate anyone who hasn't voted in the last two presidential elections. Some dismiss people who, on a scale of 1 to 10, say their likelihood of voting is not a 9 or a 10. Most use a combination of factors.

More voters, less certainty
The problem this year is that primary voters and caucus attendees — particularly Democrats — are confounding the experts by turning out in record numbers. Add to that the unusually high participation rates of minority voters and an influx of new voters, particularly young people, and there is a recipe for a messy gumbo of poll results.


"Voting is an extremely complex process to predict," said Dick Bennett, president of American Research Group, a nonpartisan New Hampshire company that showed Obama leading 48 percent to 42 percent on Feb. 15. "There is no ultimate, definitive methodolog­y."

Bennett says he tweaks his screening process as campaigns progress. Because Obama is bringing so many new voters to the polls, Bennett is now including voters who say their likelihood to vote is 7 or higher, not just the traditional 9 and 10. The result: His screen is more favorable to Obama than some others.

While venerable polls such as Gallup are sticking to their traditional scientific methods, nobody can be sure that their polls are on target.

"If your turnout model is wrong, your poll is incorrect," said Democratic consultant Dane Strother.

What the polls disagree about is how many people from different groups will vote in the Democratic primary on March 4.


Major minority role
As ABC News polling director Gary Langer said, "the relative mix of Hispanics and blacks voting in Texas is critical."


The most accurate polls, Black said, are private polls conducted by the campaigns. That's because they interview more people over a longer period of time and use more advanced — and expensive — screening techniques.

The campaigns, however, keep these polls private and try to spin the most favorable public polling available.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 02/29/2008
- GuyFawkes I'm a Fan of GuyFawkes 28 fans permalink

"You can come up with a poll to prove anything. 51% of people know that." -- Homer Simpson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 02/29/2008
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