2008 election, Barack Obama, Barack Obama 2008, democratic primary, New York primary, Obama New York, Obama NYC
2008 election, Barack Obama, Barack Obama 2008, democratic primary, New York primary, Obama New York, Obama NYC

Mystery: NY Results Say Obama Got Zero Votes In 80 Districts

NY Times   |  Sam Roberts   |   February 16, 2008 04:20 PM


stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust

Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem's 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama.

That anomaly was not unique. In fact, a review by The New York Times of the unofficial results reported on primary night found about 80 election districts among the city's 6,106 where Mr. Obama supposedly did not receive even one vote, including cases where he ran a respectable race in a nearby district.

Read more here.

Comments for this post are now closed


 
 

Comments
850
Pending Comments
0

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next › Last » (9 pages total)

OLD NEWS - MISSING VOTES IN DISTRICTS ALSO FOR CLINTON. What's up with Hufffington? This was reported almost immediately after election in NY and is not only a problem for Obama - They have found numerous districts with no votes for Clinton, too. So how about some old, slanted news. What a pathetic site. All reports including The NY Times indicate worker error - and the workers up in Harlem were of Obama's base so there is no hanky panky suspected there, they just don't know how to read, (maybe that's why they believe everything that comes out of Obama's mouth). AND THERE ARE OVER 6000 DISTRICTS in the State of NY. Really people you believe everything you hear and see. No wonder you are known as Obambots - It is clear the masses have spoken and we will have an empty headed President to follow the current nightmare. Maybe you people can find out who really killed Kennedy in this report also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/20/2008

This place is Fox news for Borat supporters.

It's over, one brilliant pundit writes. Does Borat have 2025 delegates? Then it's not over.

I would not give up any possible chance if I were Clinton. All the people that hate her already, are still going to hate her, so it really makes no difference.

We have Ben and Jerry's candidate for change LOL. It's happy day for Tom Hayden and what's left of the yippies and Weather Underground, not to mention the Black Panther Party.

The Super Delegates were there to protect from fringe group hijacking the party. We have all these Republicans who vote for Obama because they know he will be easier once the slime machine get's going. This is what the Super Delegates were put in for.

There should not be open primaries either. They opened up primaries so that various state legislators could get proposistions past. Now we see why that is a bad idea.

Washington's vote last night, proved how true Democrats have been disenfranchised. Senator Clinton should not give up with a fight. Even if does mean the party will be weaker for a while.

Why should someone like Arianna have so much input into our party when she was a loyal enemy just a decade ago? It's time to fight for the soul of this party and not let go.

Obama's surrogate could not name one accomplishment, huffpost attacks Mathews, who has been until that time, a bias ObamaNation member.

These are not the people who shold decide our Party's nomination. It is not just the number of delegates.

He is a sure loser, with the Neo-Yippies at his side. He is anti-Isreal. He will lose, there is no doubt. I suspect Ohio and Texas Republicans will be out in force to vote for patsy Obama.

This is the lowest time in Democratic Party history!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 02/20/2008

Maybe Hillary picked up all of Guliani's votes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 02/20/2008

Ok, Finally someone is looking at these voting machines and saying something. It is my guess that John Edwards Won in the South and probably picked up whole lot of votes in New Hampshire and everywhere else he ran, but the machines were set to make it a 2 person race in the Dem party--Clinton and Obama. His votes were changed. Right now we have "two frontrunners" who have disenfrachised the people of this country, and they only care if it pertains to them. The electronic voting scandal makes the US worse then any 3rd world country we have sent Jimmy Carter to watch. Bush NEVER won in 2000 & 2004. I repeat, Bush NEVER won in 2000 & 2004. We are in trouble now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 02/19/2008

We should be ashamed - all of us. How did we get to 2008 AD and apparently not have the ability to count ballots?!? Using the Diebold machines (I don't know if there are others) that don't have the ability for anyone to ensure the accuracy of the voter counts.

How in the hell did we get to this? We are trying to create democracies elsewhere, but apparently we can't get an honest democracy here. This is pathetic. :-(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 02/19/2008

I'm stunned--can't believe I haven't seen anything about this story until just now. Most foul. What is the meaning of this??!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 02/19/2008

Well, now how stupid do those in charge think we are? Scumbags doing their scummy work, I say. I think this should be investigated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 02/19/2008

Oh god here comes the closet conspiracy theories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 02/19/2008

Evidently the people of Harlem and the other New York districts presented here simply have the smarts to have voted for the right candidate. Perhaps they saw clearly beyond race and wanted to see their accomplished senator go to the White House instead of some heavy-on-smiles, light-on-experience 'charmer.' Clinton won New York handily, so why would anyone risk vote tampering where she was going to crush Obama? It's just stupid. But maybe you're right, maybe Bill snuck out of his Harlem office and went around and jimmied all the voting machines himself. Wow, what a loyal husband.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 02/19/2008

OVER 6000 DISTRICTS - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 02/20/2008

Is that a typo? 80 districts? New York state has 150 districts according to the elections board. That's more than have the state Obama got zero?!? Does anyone have links where I can find up to the minute news on this story. Obama getting shafted in more than half the state is a big, big deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 02/19/2008

The New York Times article at
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?em&ex=1203310800&en=220686c46c068a82&ei=5087
provides more information. The official tallies corrected some/most/all of these errors. Some district's unofficial counts showed no votes for Clinton. Methinks I detect some bias here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 02/19/2008

Bias? I'm shocked!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 02/20/2008

I think there may be 2 definitions of districts. The article talked about NYC having 6,106 districts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 02/19/2008

Note to self--read entire post. My bad. So, 80 districts out of 6106. At best this will amount to 3 delegates for Sen. Obama. This is a non-story. It wasn't a master plan to steal the election in NY. Obama finished better than polls predicted in the state. I think we can put the conspiracy theories to rest on this one. NH recounted and everything looks okay there too. The Clintons may not be playing clean but they're not rigging votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 02/19/2008

This is so depressing! Here we go with that Gore/Bush shit again. Were did all of Obama's supporters go? Maybe they moved to Malibu, I don't know. This is proof yet again that while the U.S. meddles in elections in other countries (to make sure nobody cheats) they are cheating right here in our backyard. I hope history will show that George W. Bush was the first "president" to "win" from rigged elections and carefully appointed Supreme Court justices...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 02/19/2008

Not one vote for a black man in an entire Harlem district.

KInd of hard to believe isn't it?

Well I'm guessing that this really will put a hole in the black people voting for a black candidate for racial reasons theory.

Not a single person. Wow is all I can say.

Shall we call the political free DoJ in?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 02/19/2008

Seems like all of her big victories smell like a Florida swamp. In New Hampshire she won in the Diebold machine count towns and Obama won in the hand count towns. In California you have 50,000+ Independent's ballots not counted because of a dumb ballot design. Oh yes, and she won Florida and Michigan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 02/19/2008

I think Susan B. Anthony would be ashamed of Hillary's behavior.

Susan B.Anthony and Fredrick Douglas worked together for a common goal of making things right and fair.

Hillary is out for herself, and she isn't playing fair to her party. She is looking like another George Bush!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 02/19/2008

Why would anyone believe the NY Times? they endorsed Hilary Clinton it's hard to believe anything that's put out by the NY Times. If some of u bloggers would do you own research instead listing to polls, cynics, and anaylsts you would know Obama won 65% of the NY Black vote and won most of the outer NY counties, but the critics won't tell us that! I can't understand what people see in a sleezy corrupt politician such as Hilary.

YES WE CAN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 02/19/2008

Hillary is a VENTRILOQUIST for her husband's Un-Constitutional THIRD term presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 02/19/2008

Oh! lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 AM on 02/20/2008

I also heard from someone that chunks of pages from books of registered voters weren't at the poll cite the day of the election. People were denied a right! Sorry but this does happen from the top and the board of Elections people have some explaining to do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 02/19/2008

I know these missing votes had to be human error and I wouldn't put it past intentional. I know in my own little town of 2000 I worked the polls and this is an all White republican farming town and we had 40 votes for Obama. Obviously Bill and Hillary are using the system and probably paying people. I witnessed elected officals afraid to Endorce Him because of promises she has made to people they remained quiet. She paid staff to work for her and used Dem Headquarters to petition out of. I bet the whole western NY regions numbers are wrong as well, Western NY's don't like her and even in petitioning he did better.
Looks Fishy and I demand a recount!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 02/19/2008

If you can stand to inform yourself on the state of our elections, watch this film.

http://www.uncountedthemovie.com/about-the-film.html

Or watch this one:

http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/

There are innumerable ways to steal an election. Voting machines are the best method yet devised: designed to make hacking insanely easy and to leave no trace. Why are so many people in this country in denial about this? It's nightmare-making to contemplate the fact that so many elections in this country not decided by voters - but it's a fact and it isn't exactly news.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/magazine/06Vote-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Does anyone know exactly what voting machine systems were used in the New York primary?

Given the vulnerability that is purposefully designed into the Diebold, Sequoia, ES&S, etc., voting systems, totals could have been altered at any level, precinct, city, state: replacing a memory card takes about 5 seconds and leaves absolutely no trace.

When someone remarks on a surprise victory that has no rational explanation, the thieves can, and do, sit back, smirk, crow "prove it," and bitch about those crazy inaccurate polls. Then those of us who are pretty sure we just got royally hosed - again - get to slink off muttering.

The New Hampshire election was almost certainly hacked. The paper ballots in 81% of NH counties were tabulated by Diebold. According to the totals, Hillary Clinton won over Barack Obama 39.4% to 36.8%. According to the Diebold AccVote Optical-Scan voting machine count, Hillary took 52.95% of the votes compared to 47.05% for Obama. However, the paper ballot count in the non-Diebold counties gave Obama 52.93% of the votes compared to 47.07% for Hillary. Isn't that worth a puzzled frown?

The New Hampshire recount was a "criminal enterprise," according to blackboxvoting.org's Bev Harris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM

Whatever you care about, unless we clean up our elections, you can kiss it goodbye. That is, unless you are Halliburton or Blackwater.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 02/19/2008



Thank You, for this information. Utterly DEPRESSING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 02/19/2008

The gentleman who designed the software was a former roommate of Jeb Bush. He also testified before a Grand Jury that the results could easily be manipulated to bring about any desired voting result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 02/19/2008

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmsMHBNK1Tq-YZqsW4FAocXAuDSQD8UL6N8O0

Remember the undervote in Florida? It has been tidily swept under the rug:

A team of university computer experts who examined the machines after the election suggested the problem was voter confusion over a poorly designed ballot that had drawn complaints from voters. The District 13 race was listed at the top of the second page of the ballot without the same type of header that preceded other races on the ballot.

"GAO acknowledges the possibility that the large undervote in Florida's 13th Congressional District race could have been caused by factors such as voters who intentionally undervoted or voters who did not properly cast their ballots on the (voting machines), potentially because of issues relating to interaction between voters and ballot," the government report said.


How's that for reassurance? They are pretty sure that maybe there might have been some kind of design flaw in the ballot that possibly might have caused voters to screw up their votes. Yeah, right, the voters screwed up, not the machines.

Do you think maybe there ought to be a way to be ABSOLUTELY SURE the fucking machines are working?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 02/19/2008

Hey! They work. And they work exactly as they are designed to work.
Did you have the idea that they were meant to work for you?
Ha! They work for the crooks who control them, darling.
Now you know why Obama can lose to Her Royal Crookedness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 02/19/2008

OK, in plain, understandable language: all the candidates agreed fl and mi votes would not be added to the delegate tally. now, while it's easy to manipulate the language to say the votes "won't count" or that voters are being "disenfranchised," the point of fact is they all agreed. however, now it's becoming a convenient talking point to score a political point by saying these voters are being disenfranchised and blaming obama's campaign for it -- when everybody knows good and well (and there is hard-copy evidence) that clinton, edwards and obama agreed not to accept delegates from those two states. not sure whether obama would react the same way if the shoe were on the other foot, but that hypothetical has no place in this argument, because that's not the situation. clinton knew, and now she's trying to garner votes by changing the rules and creating a fear tactic to paint obama in a negative light and scare the dnc into swaying the nomination her way. people should stop blindly following her fingerpointing at obama and the dnc and instead ask their local democratic party officials why they allowed this to happen, and they should ask clinton why she's had a sudden change of heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 02/18/2008

OK, in plan language for you to understand.

1. Disenfranchised voters trump any party decisions even if the party establishment and elite agreed. This fundamental value and right is beyond reproach. The moral and legal ground in the constitution is to count all the votes. No excuses. No one can make those decistions unilaterally. This is not about DNC, obama or Clinton. You cannot ignore or not count 2.3 Million voters in a democracy.
2. On a moral level, the democrats seed any advantage they had regarding republican suppression of the voter campaigns and misconduct.
3. On a practical level, blowing off these swing states will mean that the Democrats lose those states in the general.

Get that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 02/19/2008

Moral level?!? Are you serious? You want us to seat delegates from FL & MI primaries that not only broke the rules but in MI only had ONE CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT (just so happened to be Hillary Clinton). This isn't the USSR, not that you could tell by listening to the Clinton Camp.

Now they want to disenfranchise voters who voted in elections that FOLLOWED THE RULES, by trying to swing pledged delegates away from Obama, i.e. get them to break their signed pledges to vote a certain way, kinda like Hillary breaking her pledge not to accept delegates from FL and MI. The fish rots from the head down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 02/19/2008

Democratic system means one person one vote.

Not 2.3 M people no votes. Hate to break it to you, but you are the one supporting the USSR comparison.

The right to vote is sacrosanct. It trumps all other positions. All else is noise drummed up by politicians on both sides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 02/19/2008

What in the world are you talking about? Did you read this article? It is about irregularities from Voting machines, and districts, and votes being discounted, changed and manipulated. This happened in every primary. It effected outcomes for all the Dem's that ran! What is the matter with the religous Obama people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 02/18/2008

Ok, Finally someone is looking at these voting machines and saying something. It is my guess that John Edwards Won in the South and probably picked up whole lot of votes in New Hampshire and everywhere else he ran, but the machines were set to make it a 2 person race in the Dem party--Clinton and Obama. His votes were changed. Right now we have "two frontrunners" who have disenfrachised the people of this country, and they only care if it pertains to them. The electronic voting scandal makes the US worse then any 3rd world country we have sent Jimmy Carter to watch. Bush NEVER won in 2000 & 2004. I repeat, Bush NEVER won in 2000 & 2004. We are in trouble now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 02/18/2008

Is it me, am I missing something? Why isn't anyone talking about why Hillary doesn't do well in the Caucus Primary States? Simple answer . . . . there's no opportunity to lose votes or disenfranchise voters!

Maybe this is what the Clinton's (2 for 1) mean when they say they're the only ones capable of beating the Republican in the General - they learned well from the Bush, Jr. election cycles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 02/18/2008

THANK YOU for pointing this out. Hillary likes to say that Obama supporters manhandle caucus voters. But the more logical explanation, given the anomalies of 2000, 2004, New Hampshire and New York (all Diebold machine counted) is that politicians are stealing elections. You can't do that in places where the votes are hand counted. That's why Obama consistently beat her by large margins in caucuses.

But in the age of technology there really isn't a reason to rely on the machines. I suggest we get rid of the antiquated "votes should be private" system and allow people to openly state who they are voting for. All votes should be counted and posted on a national database. If you're worried that your vote wasn't counted, check the database. It also allows for transparency in the tabulation of votes because irregularities would stand out like sore thumbs.

Now people would say "I don't want my employer to know who I voted for". Fine. Each district would have a password to access the database for their area ensuring privacy but allowing enough transparency to pick up voter fraud.

If we're forced to use these Diebold machines it should be OUR RIGHT TO CONFIRM THAT OUR VOTES WERE COUNTED THROUGH A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED DATABASE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 02/19/2008

After reading the responses in here, it is just amazing to see how easily Hillary Clinton supporters can brush off such obvious voting irregularities. I guess our democracy doesn't mean as much as getting your candidate elected, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 02/18/2008

I don't necessarily think that the Clinton campaign had anything to do with it, but WHOA are Hillary's supporters angry at this news item.

I've never seen such personal identification with a political candidate. It's turning into a cult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/18/2008