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Ohio GOP Roots For Hillary

Cincinnati Enquirer   |  Howard Wilkinson   |   February 18, 2008 09:11 AM


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One of the worst-kept secrets of the Ohio presidential primary is that Republican Party leaders have a candidate they are rooting for on the Democratic side.

Her name is Hillary Rodham Clinton; and they believe that if she wins the Ohio primary and goes on to become the Democratic nominee, she will be the one who unites their dispirited and divided party and gives them their best chance of keeping the White House this fall.


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The trouble with blogging is that you have no idea of the source of the comments, but after awhile it has become obvious to me that when there is an absolute lack of logic or reason, the poster is probably a young person with no knowledge of history or personal experience.

When you attempt to engage a serious discussion, they get hysterical.

I hope that despite what is being written that people will take time to reflect on which candidate is most qualified, based on facts, not wishful thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 02/18/2008

Is it just me, or do you usually ask an opponent what tactic to use to beat them? If I were a Republican and someone asked me who I thought would be easiest to beat, I would tell you the person I would least want to oppose, and that would be Hillary Clinton.

Now because Obama has brought in so many new voters, the Dems. are wondering if that might change the equation, and it might. But there is no logic to claiming that Hillary is more divisive, etc. That is just bs. By the way, Senator Clinton was reelected to a second term in the Senate by a 67% majority -- does that sound like a person with strong negatives? No way!

Some of these p

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/18/2008

Hillary the GOP Uniter and democratic divider!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 02/18/2008

I've never understood the whole concept of Hilary the Polarizer. When she was in the Senate, she gained the genuine respect and affection of some of the very people, who had been part of the so called right wing conspiracy. This is why she would make a great President, because she can conciliate, negotiate and keep her cool. With Obama, it's too soon to tell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 02/18/2008

But it isn't GOP lawmakers who are driving the party's bus. It isn't GOP senators who are getting the illiterati out to vote against their economic well-being. It doesn't matter how many Republicans she charms on Capitol Hill because they don't map out a campaign strategy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 02/18/2008

aiyeeee.
I get so confused when I read the comments by the Hillary haters here at HuffPo.

Not really, I just kind of snicker sadly and shake my head at the lack of critical thinking and logic.
1. Hillary is really a conservative neo-con, a slime pig corporate whore in league with the neo-cons.
2. The neo-cons want Hillary to win the primary so McCain can become President. even though they don't like McCain or his policies and don't think he is a conservative.
Hello?

And then there is the inconsistency on oh so many levels between the stated principles of the candidate in running his campaign and the actions and rhetoric of his supporters.
Obama has stated clearly that he can disagree without being disagreeable. He has said he is going to elevate the level of the conversation. He has declared that we should all be able to differ without demonizing. And yet his "followers" (and I am using that word deliberately. Hey I could have said disciples) do not seem to feel the need to behave this way... or they are unable... or maybe all that elevation applies to everyone except Hillary because we all know she is a demon.

more following.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 02/18/2008

How terribly sad... but you know the followers of the J-man didn't always do or say the right things either. However He would step up and correct their failings.

I guess the new direction the country is going to be taken in is not so new after all. Lots of talk but no real change... I haven't seen Obama take any of his people or his followers to task for the hateful rhetoric they use or the divisive distortions they have employed on his behalf more than once in this race.
And please... leave the neo-con "Bu-Bu-But Bill..." or "She said," "She did" home, it is so old. It is just stupid coming out of a right wing troll, it is pathetic and shamful coming from a so called PROGRESSIVE.
I don't care what you think Bill or She did or said. I really don't and there are two reasons for that.
The first reason is my concern is with what MY candidate is doing, what ideals and standards is he (or she) upholding, how is his rhetoric matching his actions, what are his surrogates up to, and what is the kind of supporter he is attracting, how are they behaving and what is the level of conversation they are bringing to the table because this is the conversation we will be having for a lot of years to come.
Well, when I look around here and the other Progressive blogs I find myself so disheartened by the level of conversation the Obama supporters are putting out. The attacks and ugliness are just not what I want to be doing for 8 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 02/18/2008

I have been wandering through HuffPo since the beginning and I never have gotten used to this mob mentality hatefulness toward the Clinton's.I never really cared for Hillary one way or another, I started disliking her when I started reading the crap here, but the vituperative and vitriolic bile is so over the top I was forced to go take an in depth look at the woman and what the issue is that everyone seems to know that I so obviously didn't. Ummm. huh?
What I found out is she worked on the Nixon impeachment panels, sitting there with the big boys, committed, focused, willing to do what is right.
I learned who was in that administration who resented her, who is known to hold grudges and get even, who helped drive impeachment proceedings against Bill, who started this whole narrative about the Clinton's, about "Hillary is too polarizing,(of course she is... you make sure of it. If people didn't spend all their time spouting out neo-con truisms making her polarizing she wouldn't be.) and I found out how it was all spoon fed to the far left to keep it going... and see it worked.

Yes Virginia, there is a vast right wing conspiracy. PNAC be thy name.
how sad people will just dumb themselves down so willingly rather than actually investigate the truth.
I thank you though, I can't support Obama now mainly though not entirely because of all of you and your hatred. By their fruits you will know them.
Your fruits are too bitter for me.

www.oh-mercy.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 02/18/2008

Notice an insert in referencing Obama as being a CULT FIGURE, LOL, that TOO ERUPTED FROM THE CLINTON CAMP...when failed so miserably at inserting race, drug use, inexperience(versus REAL record of experience to boot which showed Obama NOT so lacking...) the CULT LIKE FIGURE insertion and innuendo is now being played....IT too may backfire , but then again, who knows, there remain enough ignorant folks who can cast a vote and just even recently on AOL , in a pol of US presidents ranked George W as number 10 for being a great president with Reagan in number two spot. (Bill got number six, JFK even lower, but like rather disheartening , was supposedly a Harris poll , NOT a good indication of just how much full thought IS given to the "selection" process or the validity of reasons WHY one gets more votes than another !!!! )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 02/18/2008

Of course the GOP wants Billary. It will give McCain the best chance he has.
He'll argue for Iraq, she'll say we should get out, and he'll say, "But you voted for the war".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 02/18/2008

Obama is winning through INDEPENDANT votes, not Republican votes.

Republican voters are like a percent of a percent of the total people voting in the primaries. They could be voting for Clinton en masse and it wouldn't change anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 02/18/2008
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Obama will get significant support from GOP voters in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 02/18/2008

Hey, dumbshit, that's how you WIN AN ELECTION. The "party faithful" will all fall in line, or in the Repubic case goose step in line, you win or LOSE based on the Indy vote. Clinton can't pull it against McStain. Obama CAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 02/18/2008

ok my work is done here, some of these pro-hillary posts are just ludicrous at best.
i personally like get a little factual basis
from posters but i see none of that here.
no facts, no links for the phony numbers getting thrown out here. just folks living in denial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 02/18/2008

here is an insightful story into the inner workings of hillarys campaign.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200802u/patti-solis-doyle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 02/18/2008

Oh I read that, it was great.

The accounts of Patti Solis Doyle's management style made me subconsciously clench my fists. I think everyone has had a boss like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 02/18/2008
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I couldn't help but notice the similarity between GWB's and HRC's leadership style reading this article: loyalty over competence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 02/18/2008

One thing (pointed out by others and by polling). If Clinton is the nominee, polls show it could really hurt the DEMs downstream (Govs, Send, Reps, etc..) in the western states - where the Dems did make inroads in 2006...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 02/18/2008

That 'secret' needs to get out more. Of course, Obama is the most likely to win. There is no substitute for character, judgment and wisdom, any way.

http://lamarguerite.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 02/18/2008

This is true. The fastest way to unite 1/4 of the Democratic base and the Republican base for the Republican candidate is to elect another Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 02/18/2008
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I disagree with these Republican strategists; in fact, they are saying this because they fear a Hillary nomination. This is while the press props up their media darling, Obama. Senator Clinton can more than hold her own against an opponent like McCain while Obama, it is becoming increasingly recognized, by the voters if no one else, appears to be fodder. Already McCain has chastised Obama's "change" and "hope" rhetoric as mere platitudes but it would be particularly difficult to confront a senator with more experience and with whom he has actually collaborated with on the Senate floor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 02/18/2008

Keep hearing how the media is propping up Obama when what have viewed most often is the PROPPING UP OF THE CLINTONS and HIllary in particular has had a long free ride in the media ..easily since 2004 , the media HAS pronounced her the INEVITIBLE Dem Candidate while saying that Obama has NOT a real chance and is just good showtime cuz they have so many hours of on air to spiel and so many pages to try and entice to be read...LOL, Hillary and Bill have gotten far more easy riding and WHEN something not favoring them presently or from the past, the whiners come out and try to claim all just picking on them !!
Hillary too has blown a FORTUNE and thensome as she had one of the MOST enriched campaign war chest..She blew over $60 million on her last Senate race , one virtually a cake walk and UNNECCESARY, but felt they coffers would be endlessly refilled and the C-camp truly HAVE believed all along she was indeed THE inevitible candidate and with the Bush reign record, another CAKEWALK to claim the title and strike a pose !!!
There are those in the C=camp willing to admit, NONE took ANY other prospect/candidate as a serious threat to their determined assessment that this time the title WOULD be hers.
Known is that the MAJORITY Dem voter is FEMALE, the campaign did indulge in going GENDER BIASED BASED...then drawing on the populistical notion that Bill was THE first BLACK President so that would swing that vote block along as well...True, in comparison, the C-years definitely "better" than the current Bush reign, but there were definite downsides as well and FEW REALLY WANT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE OF A REPEAT of those downers and so, when a VIABLE alternative came on the scene...uh, makes it far easier to make OUR choice elsewise than the Clinton duo !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 02/18/2008

Yipes... go take some meds.
if this is the level of disagreeing without being disagreeable, differing without demonizing, and elevating the conversation I think I'll go back to the old ways.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I now know who to vote for. The candidate who does NOT have supporters like this.
Sheesh... are we really going to be listening to this crap for the next 8 years?
I feel like I wandered onto the Drudge report...
Wait, Oh, I'm on Huffington Post... oh... well, no wonder. same thing where Senator and President Clinton are concerned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 02/18/2008

you disagree with republican strategists? i guess that why you post here and they have the jobs they do.
it is no secret that the republicans have been waiting to run against hillary since before obama was a blip on the radar screen. it is no secret that hillary has a very high negative rating among the general population (everybody)and again it is no secret that all along she has been the only hope that republicans have of winning because they will galvanize against her for the election.
either hillary supporters here are plants or they are in serious denial of reality.
it aint rocket science my friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 02/18/2008
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I think it's just serious denial of reality. This powerful denial apparently exists all the way to the top of the Clinton campaign.

Either that, or the DLC is just as scared of Obama as the RNC is. If you think about it, they have great cause to be. President Obama would make the DLC obsolete overnight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 02/18/2008
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Hillary is the GOP's dream candidate:

#1) even a putz like McCain could beat her in a general election

2) even if she beats McCain, she's going to inherit GW Bush's countless messes, and the GOP (FOX news, Limbaugh and their minions) will spend 24/7 pointing out everything that is wrong with this country (and the Clinton administration)

3) Hillary's voting record runs pretty consistent with GW Bush... so her policies will likely be in line with the GOP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 02/18/2008

I think Sen. Clinton would have a better chance standing toe to toe with Sen. McCain than would Sen. Obama, especially on national security and terrorism.

As for your point 2) "even if she beats McCain, she's going to inherit GW Bush's countless messes, and the GOP (FOX news, Limbaugh and their minions) will spend 24/7 pointing out everything that is wrong with this country (and the Clinton administration)."

Sort of think that whoever the next president is, he/she is going to inherit GW's messes. And if it is Clinton or Obama the GOP; i.e., FOX news, Limbaugh, etc., etc., will be pointing everything that is wrong in this country (and in the Clinton or Obama administration).

So since Sen. Obama voted for the Cheney oil/enery plan, does that mean his policies are in line with the those of the GOP. There is quite a difference between the policies of our two democratic candidates and those of the GOP. I just happen to think that Sen. Clinton is a far better candidate than Sen. Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 02/18/2008

wyorange.
very good. I agree. But you are waisting your words here if you employ critical thinking or logic skills. Strict "pure" adherants to an ideology do not listen to nor can they comprehend logic.
These same people will be screaming bloody murder the first time Obama does something they determine is a "sell out."
That will be the end of it.
Then all of us who are trying to be informed and logical will be having the same conversation defending Obama from the hateful hordes who feel betrayed because they haven't taken the time to try to understand how and why poisitions are taken and instead spew out the pablum the right win spoon fed them.

Wow!
I think I'm starting toget angry.
Time to leave HuffPo for awhile.
Have a great day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 02/18/2008

lord have mercy, do you hear yourself?
what a tragedy the travesty of the American education situation has wrought.

uhhhh,
Critical thinking?
Logic?
oh, oh, how about this:
disagreeing without being disagreeable.
Yeah... I see a lot is going to change judging by the elevated level of conversation being employed by the change candidate's supporters.
God help us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 02/18/2008
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