Clinton Declines To Reject Supporter's Controversial Obama Comments

Of course they won't.
Look at the headline, then skip to the last line of the article.

hello?

Well this has been the pattern of Huffington Post all along where the Clinton's are concerned.
Sometimes I wonder if Arianna has a "mommy" complex about Hillary.

Very well stated.
Everything you wrote in your comments are exactly as they happened
Thank you,
(RusStyle)

A mad woman?

you people have used so much insane hyperbole regarding Hillary Cinton I should think you might refrain using the word "mad."

As far as Mocking Obama's message of hope... yes, that was a bad moment but not because of the content but because she does not know how to do this kind of humor. She is a wonk, a geek, this kind of stuff is beyond her capacity and she should knock it off.

Rathert than defend each point about Hillary I will enumerate a couple of things that have distrubed me about Obama and his surrogates as well as his "Progressive" supporters.

In a word I guess I'd say it is hypocrisy.

But let me elaborate.

Manipulation, distortion, repetition, dishonesty, running on a platform that is going to bring change to Washington, change politics as usual, instill hope, be the change you are waiting for, disagreeing without being disagreeable, and reaching out to those we disagree with while actually acting in direct opposition to the platform, and of course making use of the neo-con narrative's talking points against Hillary Clinton.

1. The consistent snarky comments about Hillary right from the beginning interjected into the beautiful speeches at regular intervals though so brief that while you are moved by oratory, and it is gorgeous, moving and worthy of admiration and hope, you kind of miss it until you've heard it many times. This is not policy differences. There have been many mocking comments by Obama that belie his belief in his own rhetoric. It shows a cattiness unbefitting a President, that is if it is unbefitting of Hillary it is also unbefitting Obama.

2. The race card. When Obama was confronted with the pages of comments and talking points and emails coming from his campaign about the Racist charges and how to best present comments in a way that could be construed as racist, as well as ensuring the charges were kept going despite the promise to let it go Obama admitted it with his contrite face on. When Russert asked if he regretted it in hindsight Obama said yes and moving into the future there would be no more of this.

Though he never denounced or distanced himself from the highly inflammatory, over the top rhetoric coming from Jesse Jackson Jr. as well as other surrogates.

It is particularly troubling as these people know that Hillary Clinton has been a supporter of civil rights and working with civil rights organizations as well as the ACLU since she was a young woman. Bill Clinton too has been a regular champion of civil rights throughout his life.

This shows a deception that is breathtaking in its cynicism.

(Obama can make mistakes, be contrite and move on. The press does not cover it, it is no big deal though it was a huge deal when everyone thought it was Bill and Hillary interjecting racism. People and Press are still saying they did it and the downward slide started there.)

3. Obama 's use of the neo-con narrative pulling out the word Polarizing" which is what the neocons interjected into the political conversation thus ensuring she would be. The right wing, as we have seen repeatedly just keeps repeating something until it is true, or looks true. This is just ugly.


4. Obama's use of fear in saying that he knows he "can get Hillary's supporters but can she get mine?" Not only is this arrogant but it promotes the fear of a disunited party that no one wants.

It is the candidate who loses responsibility to to do his or her best to rally supporters around the candidate who is nominated and help ensure party unity. To make such a comment makes one ask if he doesn't get the nomination is he just going to pick up his marbles and go home?
It is a clear manipulation capitalizing again on the neo-con/far right/far left agenda and talking points. It is a disturbing pattern that begs the question where is the new way of doing politics?


5. Michelle Obama declaring that she doesn't know if she could support Hillary if she wins the nomination. Again, if her husband doesn't win she is done and won't participate anymore? A clear use of divisive tactics.

6. Finally, the utter malicious cruelty of the Obamaton's regarding Hillary. The extension of hatred and malevolence are like a malignant cancer metastasising and spreading a putrid stench across this primary that should have been something we could have and should have been rightly proud of no matter who won. It smacks of right wing, narrow minded hate and smear tactics. Ironically it is exactly the kind of complaints that are consistently foisted upon Hillary.

The things that were done by the Obama camp had been done by the Clinton camp there would have been an uproar with vociferous condemnation yet they were barely noticed. Because I was an Obama supporter who was becoming just a little uneasy with the hate I started taking notice.

Of course one can come back and say well She did this, and she did that, and what about this... Again, it sounds like the right wings constant harping on " Well Bill Clinton did..." whenever anyone criticized Bush and his cabal.
If you are running on and supporting a campaign which is above politics as usual does it mean that these tactics are acceptable until I get elected, or will be suspended only after January 20th, 2009 and only if my candidate gets elected?
It is like the neo-con defense of Abu Grahib. Because the enemy engages in kidnapping and beheading we are comfortable with torture and humiliation and beating people to death if we think they might be an enemy.

And, if in fact the idea that we will be reaching across to those we disagree with and who don't share our values and agenda, when do we start? Why is there an enemy? Why are we treating someone within our own party as an enemy? Isn't this old politics, the politics of hate, politics as usual?



These issues taken cumulatively mark a disturbing bent in the Obama movement and campaign. There are move things that can be enumerated which I won't go into detail about however I will mention. The lack of support for a single payer health plan, something he was all for when he was working on the South Side of Chicago as a community organizer but has now distanced himself from when he began his run for US Senate. His initial support of a Palestinian state and a return to the old boundaries which will shrink Israels land. He now calls Israel our dearest friend who we have a special bond with and never mentions the Palestinian plight in the clear terms he once used. Again, this changed after his serious run for President.
That run for President started long before announcing his candidacy... as it should. No one gets anywhere with out ambition and a plan... something that Hillary gets dumped on for over and over.

There are many politically expedient moves Obama has made besides what I have spoken of. I frankly expect it and understand it if not support it. If you want to be in the "game" as he calls it you have to play rough. Sadly that does not apply to Hillary Clinton where every moment there is something to pick on, exaggerate or distort and scream how duplicitous she is.


I'm surprised there isn't someone placed inside the campaign to examine her bathroom habits and then scream about the nefarious and Machiavellian lengths she will go to to win this election. (oh, another statement of Obama's)

In a word: Hypocricy

YAY DanielJarv!

I applaud you.

Obama uses this old and dirty campaign trick every time he is criticized. First you are shown to have done something wrong, next you attack your opponent by claiming they do it too by showing something they did that was not as bad but similar, then you try to look innnocent of the original wrongdoing. It is a Rove tactic,well known to republicans.

If you watched the debate on Tuesday night. Senator Clinton stated. that she will do whatever she can to win.
(Jacee)

Uhhhh, wasn't that Russert who brought up Farrakhan?

this is precisely the issues that you project onto Hillary Clinton,
that she lies to create controversy and doubt.
But jaycee, just because you keep repeating such things does not make it any more true thanBush saying "weapon's of Mass Destruction" over and over again or the Obama campaign calling Bill Clinton a racist and Hillary Clinton diminishing Martin Luther King.
Anyone with any kind of objectivity can listen to those comments and see them for what they are.

And, Obama actually admitted to this to Tim Russert, that his campaign and surrogates inserted the race card and pushed the narrative to keep it going till after South Carolina. Of course it would have been difficult to deny since Russert had 4 pages of talking points and instructions

So who should be drop kicked? Who is more cynical?

Frankly I love Obama in some ways but I do not believe he is the pure light, be all end all who will heal Washington and the country. He has some un dealt with issues if you take the time to look. I looked at both of them. I initially supported Obama but the injustice, unfairness and hate you people embrace as well as the rampant sexism and the biased media coverage has made me a Clinton supporter if for no other reason than a symbolic one. this kind of hate, injustice, ugliness malevolence and vituperative discourse, name calling ans smearing of Hillary Clinton and anyone who dares to ask for fairness or objectivity or even just less hatred, even if an Obama supporter has no place in the Progressive Party of the Democrats.

If Obama wins I'll be happy. If not and McCain is our next President I'll blame the left who took up the anti Hillary Hatred that the neo-cons propagandized with well over a decade ago.

That means you.

Thanks.

Love it. Guess you guy took a hit, eh?

I can always tell from the indignant responses here.

Bad reporting here: Writer does not make note that Obama did denounce the remarks and then also rejected the remarks, since Clinton was parsing the difference between denounce and reject. Thought it was one of Obama's several high points in the debate.

Hillary=McCain=Bush

I don't agree that its a daily discussion but even if it were, its been proven false over and over...but if one racist bastard Mexican goes nuts, it does not affect the rest of Hispanics...or it should not.