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Dan Abrams Nails Rep. Jack Kingston On \'Lapel Pin\' Hypocrisy

Dan Abrams Nails Rep. Jack Kingston On 'Lapel Pin' Hypocrisy

February 28, 2008 03:18 PM


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It remains idiotic to suggest that any of the people who are running for president lack the necessary patriotism to do the job, but in this great land of ours, we treasure the freedom of speech even though it attracts idiots by the score to emit idiotic sounding words from their idiotic cake-holes. One such cakehole was found last night on idiot U.S. Representative Jack Kingston (R-Clueless), who came on Dan Abrams' show to make a big fuss about how weird - and maybe how al-Qaeda-esque - it was that Barack Obama doesn't wear an American Flag lapel pin. Presumably, if Obama did decide to start wearing a lapel pin, Kingston would just say, "Okay, that's nice, but do you know all the verses to the Star Spangled Banner? Have you grown your own amber waves of grain? Would you prove your loyalty right now by making sweet and tender love to this bald eagle?" You just can't win with idiots. Unless of course, the idiot shows up WITHOUT WEARING HIS OWN RIDICULOUS LAPEL PIN.

Dan Abrams strikes a blow for everyone who isn't the stupidest person in the world, below:



ABRAMS: Isn't this pure sleaze, I mean, the notion to sort of attack Obama because he's not patriotic because his hands are down when the pledge of allegiance is being played.

KINGSTON: Well, I think there's just questions that the American people want to know about. When you listen to why he doesn't wear an American flag button, it's a very convoluted answer. I've been in politics and you have been around them for a long time, everybody wears them. From a mayor to a county commissioner to the members of Congress to the President. It's curious that suddenly, there's a guy who doesn't want to do it. Put that with the wife's comment, the first time in her adult life she's proud of America. You're running to be the number one cheerleader of the country, I think these questions aren't off limits.

ABRAMS: First, let me ask you: You're not wearing a lapel pin, are you?

KINGSTON: I will wear one and I have worn one.

ABRAMS: I had no idea you were going to show up without a lapel pin, but it seems kind of absurd you are saying his patriotism should be questioned because he's not wearing a lapel pin, then you come on not wearing one.

KINGSTON: Well, Dan, I don't follow that at all. I will be glad to wear one. Barack Obama says he won't wear one. You're probably not wearing one now, but you would you?

ABRAMS: Would I wear one at some time, I have worn one once.

KINGSTON: You know why these, you call them attacks, it's not, it's a banter back and forth. They have their hyper-sensitivity buttons on. It's like scratching fingernails on the black board when you say Barack Hussein Obama.

ABRAMS: Including his middle name is intentional, right?

KINGSTON: Absolutely.

 
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He can take his flag lapel pin and shove it up his ass. Oh wait we'd have an "anti-shove it up your ass flag pin amendment" being pushed by every right wing moron in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 03/03/2008
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I just did a quick Google image search for Jack Kingston. Quickly looking at the first 2 pages of results there isn't a single picture with this moron wearing a flag pin that includes some appearances and press photos!

People wonder where this enthusiasm for someone new and different who promises change comes from... It comes from 2 faced stupid politicians like this which until recently has been all we have had.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 03/03/2008
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If the biggest thing the republicans can come up with is Obama doesn't wear a flag pin they are in serious trouble.

Marching out this idiot to push the point without a pin on himself only shows how non-issue this is.

R.I.P - modern republican party, you can thank your selfs for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 03/03/2008
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Exactly! I like to add further comments, but I can no longer afford my internet connection due to the pending recession.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 03/03/2008
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Anyone wanna guess where those patriotic American flag pins are made?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 03/03/2008

You make a good point, that if he wore a flag pin, that some Republican would accuse him of something else equally inane.
Point in case - there is a Representative in California, Ed Royce I think, who says Democrats are weak on securing our borders because they do not endorse his plan to build a DOUBLE wall along the border. In other words, it is not enough that they go along with putting up border walls in areas that are in need of them, but unless they do like him and support putting up TWO border walls, one behind the other, then they are not true-blue control-the-border fanatics. What a loon. What's next, a minefield and machinegun nests to kill anyone getting too close to the border?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 03/03/2008

These Neocons are just babbling about anything that we Americans may think makes some sort of difference. They have so little going for them that they just stoop to this sort of c**p, all they have is McCain who says he will walk in Bush's footsteps. If they had more then a middle name or a pin to mark themselves as someone for this country maybe I would listen but they have let Bush destroy our constitution with his fear mongering and their Corporatism and huge spending on a war that should not have happened. I will be so happy when this election is over and maybe if they don't steal it again we can get back to real concerns, our country, our reputation, our helping our poor, our middle class and get us out of policing the world. Look what it has done to us, do we really need to spend this huge amount of money on destroying other countries and going into such unbelievable debt to do it.
We now have to take care of thousands of more Veterans (that is our duty) after we have put them in country up to 5 times since this stupid war started. It was a crime what happened on 9/11 we should have investigated it as such instead of going over the edge into war when we didn't even know where to start. How can you go to war on countries without knowing who, why and what we are fighting. We had the world on our side we could have slowed down terrorism (your never going to stop some nuts) but together we could have stopped much of it but we squander our opportunity and here we have thousands of more terrorist because of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 03/02/2008

The DNC should make the defeat of Rep Jack Kingston a major priority in the 2008 congressional elections. Kingston is spewing venomous bile and undoubtedly there tens of thousands of Americans just dumb enough to believe the nonsense he is peddling. This guy is a disgrace to the Congress and to the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 03/02/2008

Kingston , a hero of the Dupes found on these boards,is one of the many Stooges for the Ultra-Right quasi-Fascists running under the name of the Republican Party. He was sent to Congress by the vacuous, pathetic, slack-jawed Dupes concentrated in Dupedom South. Those like Kingston ALL say the same things. It will do little good to target this clown for defeat. For such a move to be effective, it will require targeting the same comptemptible gang of them in Bibleland for defeat. Have a look at the House floor sometime and see them all running about like a community of insects.

Each of them shares a mutual love with the Fox Newstwister Channel. Each is dedicated to making a more wonderful life for the wealthiest in the Nation, and the rest of us need to fend for ourselves and are expected to rejoice in the social Darwinist policies imposed on us. After all, it's the American Way, and dissenters and reformers are traitors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 03/02/2008

TO ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS:

For the certain Republican onslaught to come, a suggested show of support against at least one probable tactic, using Obama's middle name as a way to instill fear and bigotry.

Start signing your posts and include as your middle name: "Hussein"

Signed: H 'Hussein' Galal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 03/01/2008
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You could also ask any "Repedophiles" if they'd care to review part of their party's performance record of the past seven and a half years:

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 03/01/2008
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The flag pin has become the new loyalty oath of the Macarthy era. The pledge, wearing the star and stripes have become nothing more than a petty jingoistic exercise. Wearing a symbol of the flag or pledging allegiance does not mean you are patriotic, your actions determine that. If you uphold the rights of ALL Americans, if you truely believe in the Preamble to the Constitution and if you believe that the Constitution should be followed no matter what manner of attacks we suffer, then you are a patriot. Replace the Pledge with a recitation of the Preamble, as it is what this country should stand for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 03/01/2008

It's not the flag pin though it's the flag and the pledge AND our National Anthem:

"During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. -- United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171"

So it's not just tradition it's the law which really should be taken as "CIVICS" learned when we
all were in grade school.

But it's even a bit more complicated than the above...

Since it is part of our legal code and tradition, one must ask WHY no one ever nudged the Senator to not look "stupid".

Especially, when you consider the fact that in this photo everyone else is doing the right thing except Obama:

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1662530_1446035,00.html

Again, WHY?

Either someone is STUPID here, the Senator or his Staff or this means something.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 03/01/2008

So I'll wear some of my flag lapel pins and next time I run into you, Eddie, I'll start to sing the national anthem. If you don't stand up and place your headdress over your left shoulder and your hand over your heart while facing my flag lapel pins, I'll have you arrested and shipped off to Gitmo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 03/02/2008

Another thing to consider, Eddie, is Bolling v. Superior Court for Clallam County, 1943, 133 P.2d 803, 16 Wash.2d 373, which states, among other things,

"Standing silently at attention while others salute and pledge allegiance to flag of the United States does not constitute offense of "disrespect to the flag."

Granted, the Obama case involves the Star-Spangled Banner, not the Pledge Of Allegiance, but the principle is the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 03/02/2008

Actually Eddie, I believe this is not a law in the sense you are using the term. It says "should," not will or must. It is a recommendation, not a requirement. Not following it is not a violation of law, like speeding. And as for it representing some tradition, Title 36 was passed, I believe, in 1998 by Congress. Hardly a tradition if only 10 years old. And I believe Obama missed it in Civics class because, in 1998, he was oh, maybe 20 years out of civics class. It was an absurd law when it was passed by the most corrupt Congress in history, and it is an absurd display of jingoistic nonsense today.

But I will get you sent to Gitmo if you don't face my flag lapel pins and salute when I start singing the National Anthem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 03/02/2008

Actually, wearing a flag lapel pin doesn't prove one's loyalty. It's the number of flag lapel pins one is wearing that proves how loyal one is. If you are only wearing 3 flag lapel pins and I am wearing 4, it proves I am more loyal and pro-american than you, and it gives me the right to question your loyalty. I suggest everyone should start carrying as many extra flag lapel pins on themselves as possible to prevent a possible flag lapel pin gap from developing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 03/02/2008

oxymoron : a combination of contradictory or incongruous words
examples : sad clown,true lies,turkey ham, republican authenticity, and now Kingston credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 03/01/2008
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Add "party of family values" (aka GOP):

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 03/01/2008

The sleezy puke Kingston teaches us ALL exactly what UNPATRIOTIC hypocrites and LIARS look like, and sound like. ANOTHER traitor to his oath of office...

Maher AND Abrams let this disgrace to OUR country spew far too much.


It was NOT the 'Pledge' Barack didn't put hand over chest for, that was MORE LIES. It was the Star Spangeled Banner and it's something people everywhere ONLY stand up for, unless they are military.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 03/01/2008
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No, EVERYONE is supposed to put their right hand on their heart. It's protocol, it's the law, it's in Title 36.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 03/01/2008

Read further about U.S. Code, Ping, Title 16 is NOT enacted as LAW.

Quote from the U.S. Code:
"NOTE: Of the 50 titles, only 23 have been enacted into positive (statutory) law. These titles are 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 23, 28, 31, 32, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 44, 46, and 49.

It is NOT LAW, as if having been enacted by Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 03/01/2008

Sorry, got sidetracked on #16 somehow, it appears you;'re correct, although this is not what I was taught in civics as a youngster. Thanks for the education. I would say, however, that when the it plays, announcers still ALWAYS only ask people to 'stand' for the 'National Anthem'.

It's never enforced for some reason, that I know of.

I still think it's a ridiculous test of patriotism, when so many elected officials in government violate their oath to protect The Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 03/01/2008
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It's funny, cause Kingston looks almost human, but then he opens his mouth to shill garbage for the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 03/02/2008

When Rep. Steny Hoyer announced that the US House of Representatives was going to start working 5 days a week in January 2007 instead of the 3 days that they'd been working each week in 2006, Jack Kingston had THIS to say:

"Keeping us up here eats away at families," said Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), who typically flies home on Thursdays and returns to Washington on Tuesdays. "Marriages suffer. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says."

This guy really IS a moron.

PA Firefighter

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 03/01/2008

I hope that you take a moment to look at the video that my staff put together on the fly regarding 'ol Kingston...you can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpwZFvPZbkg

I am the only Democrat running against Congressman Kingston...I would love for you all to check out my website at www.billforgeorgia.com. If you have any questions please feel free to email me at bill@billforgeorgia.com. Thanks...Bill

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 03/01/2008

Bill - as a Georgia native currently elsewhere, I applaud your effort and wish you the best of success. It's a long road but you appear to have great credentials to win in South Georgia, particularly with your military experience. Fight the power!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 03/02/2008
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These hypocrites wear Chinese-made American flag lapel pins while stripping Americans of their rights, transferring the wealth of this nation to their corporate cronies and propagating an insane war on "terror." They've swapped the lives of young American men and women for oil and despotic power and they're bitching about how unpatriotic Obama is because he doesn't wear an American flag lapel pin. Makes my blood boil. Hang them all!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 03/01/2008

Right on Brother!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 03/01/2008
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Odd how wearing the flag lapel pin came into vogue during the watergate hearings. Yyyyep, as the accused lied before congress wearing their flag pins proudly, they spit on everything this country stands for. nice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 03/01/2008
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