Iran Winning Iraqi Hearts And Minds

From the Muslim perspective there may be truth to the slogan.

Considering Iran is 89% Shia and Iraq is well over 60% Shia and al Sadr has strong ties in Iran.

For those who need a lesson in ME politics look at Lebanon. Being a small and weak country they've been at the mercy of the stronger neighbors.

First Palestinians took over the South and created a de facto government there.

Then Israelis came in set up proxy Christian governance. At least Israel kicked out Palestinians with cover blessing of Lebanese, otherwise there still is a civil war in Lebanon.

Then Syrians took over and are still there killing and murdering those who oppose them. Israel comes in also once in a while kick some ass and ask questions later.

Lebanese would love to make peace with Israel but the puppet master Syria would not let them.

Without STRONG national army Iraq will be EXACTLY in the same position.

In fact to-date the sovereign country of Iraq no longer exists.
There's still a small chance this can be reversed if Turkey, Iran and Syria, will leave them alone... Small probability of that.

Fair is fair.

While I've criticiized President Pan on these pages, it's only right to acknowledge one of his achievements.

When he ran for president, Pan promised to be a uniter not a divider. Well, there's scant evidence of that in our own country, but the man has worked a veritable miracle in the Middle East.

Iran and Iraq have been at loggerheads for at least the past 50 years. A bitter eight year hot war punctuating their long cold war. The struggle between these two antagonists was a boon to the USA's geopolitical interests in the area.

Who would have thought some herdless cowboy from Texas could reconcile these two bitter enemies?

But he did.

As I said a veritable miracle. Problem with Pan of course is that just about every one of his miracles isn't really in the interests of the USA, but you still have to give him credit as a miracle worker.

He's just about finished his miracle with our domestic economy so stand by for another "achievement" that you and your children and children's children will live with...

The only party that has come out ahead in this debacle has been Iran, certainly not the US nor Iraq. Saddam was a thorn in the side of Iran. He viewed Iran as a threat that had to be dealt with. The Iran-Iraq War was a costly war in human life and resources to both countries. Thanks to the United States, Iran has lost its archenemy and is now viewed by many Iraqis as a benefactor while we are left holding the proverbial bag.
This failed foreign policy decision to invade Iraq by the United States has vaulted Iran
up into a major player position in the Middle East. Iran is seated at that poker table dealing the cards.
Most of the foreign policy decisions made by this country have been incredibly inept. We have achieved the opposite of what was originally intended and desired. Nothing was learned from previous mistakes and blunders. Mistakes that have cost human lives.

It is always amazing that the most judgemental people, the people most ready to start wars, the people most ready to kill, are the one's such as President Clinton, President Bush, and Vice President Cheney, Mr. Hagee, Mr. Robertson, and Mr. Ahmadinejad (to name just a few) who have never themselves served in uniform, combat, or even in humanitarian service in a theatre of war. There is no need to comment on the bigoted comments of certain posters, ignorance is its own punishment, and frankly no one who adheres to the principles of the Bible would dishonour the value of any human life. It is essential to appreciate that we indeed do have a volunteer army and a National Gaurd, neither of whom was told the truth by the present or previous administrations, the were sold a slick 21st century advertising campaign promising employment, education, and monetary rewards. And, if they are guilty of anything, it is in believing in their government, their nation, and the appropriate nature of their deployment. We are a nation with urban centres that our filled with unemployed young people who are desperate for a chance at the American dream - that is what they were promised - and instead what they were given were lies, a coffin, a wheel chair, a shattered mind, and at the very best a return to the very state of unemployment and poverty from which they came - and so - as fair minded Americans do you feel it is appropriate to blame an entire group of young men and women who are serving our nation as "nazis" or perhaps is it more logical to refer the Bush administration to the Hague for misleading our nation and causing the needless deaths of millions and the destruction of an entire nation?

Bravo Mahmoud, you have far more courage than our coward leader. Our leader is an alcoholic dead ender,you sir have once again shown him to be weak.

Looks like Mahmoud is winning over lots of hearts and minds, including Russia, China and Japan. His country has no need for the U.S. and the "sanctions" are just an annoying gnat flying around. Iran has something to sell...and is selling it well. They have something we desperately need, but we only want it on our terms. What is the next plan? To take it from them?

If this occurred with a Democrat as president, you can guarantee that the right-wing noise machine, led by the hyrda-headed Hannity/Coulter/Limbaugh/O'Reilly/Malkin/Drudge
spin-monster, would be screeching furiously that the Democrats had "lost" Iraq to the Islamo-fascist Iranians--which the MSM would mindlessly parrot as the Gospel.

So surprise, surprise. . . with the Chucklehead-in-Chief still in office, not even a whimper out of the craven MSM.

Is Russert ever going to get into McCain"s face and ask him indignantly that by supporting the neocon"s excellent adventure in Iraq, does McCain take any responsibility for the unprecedented détente between Iraq and Iran, and Iran"s resulting enhanced geopolitical standing in the region?

Doubtful, because the surge is working! Hurray! USA! USA! USA!

Bush should look at that photo of Ahmadinejad. It shows that you CAN be an insular zenophobic religious zealot who oppresses his people and be charming and literate at the same time. So what's Bush's excuse?

Anyone notice how similar the Chimpy and Ahmadinachimp look?

I thought the expressions were really uncanny.

The rest of the diehard US who still think it was right to invade Iraq still don't get the message do you?
They invite your arch enemy President to Iraq, gave him a warm welcome and let him poke the US in the eye, said something on their behalf which they are afraid to say all along - get out of Iraq you are not welcome here!
They don't need your money! Iraq has oil, they are richer than the US. They don't like to share their oil with you. So listen to them!

Why can't G.W. Bush take a trip to Iraq and show the people of that country that he cares?

Wonder how Saddam would have greeted Ahmadinejad?

"The Americans have to understand the facts of the region. Iraqi people do not like America."

those ungrateful people. we only want their oil. so what if they are dying in the streets they are not christian and we americans care little for anyone not christian. no lights or water who cares we want that oil so our corp fascists can make big profits.$$$$$$$$$$

ok we invaded under lies and deception but hey that is the american way. ie vietnam.

now give us our oil and hurry up and build that oil pipeline to israel.

god bless america truely god's country.

americans need to ask england how well their imperialism worked. now england is the lowest in europe other than greece in the standard of living.

and how well is the dollar doing against the euro. bye bye whineing middle class nice knowing ya. hey the trickle down theory did not work out for ya. reagan lied no way. but you kept voting him and others like him in. why?

now be sure and look for that socialist under your bed tonight while the capitalists have mores smile all the way to the bank. suckers.

Speaking of 9/11 there is a curious Video on YouTube of BBC newscaster Jane Standley reporting the collapse of W T 7 ( Salmon Brothers Building ) and describing how it collapsed.
The problem is she reported it 23 minutes BEFORE it collapsed. There is a CLEAR view of World Trade Center 7 behind her out the window as she speaks. If we spent more time taking care of our own house and less time bullying Iraq and Iran we would be far better off. Aaron Russo made a comment that Nick Rockefeller told him months before 9 /11 the entire thing was a hoax. He told Russo there was going to be an "event" that would allow them to go into Afghanistan and Iraq to get the Oil, build a pipeline to the Caspian sea, and ultimately go for Chavez in Venezuela while soldiers were looking for ghosts in caves in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Russo said he laughed about it. Personally, I don't care about Iraq and Iran, I care about the United States. If we had spent the trillions given to Halliburton & United Technologies ( they are Defense contractors built the World Trade Centers, ran the elevators that didn't function, and now want to buy Diebold to control the Voting Machines ) to the people in Kansas, Utah, Georgia, Wisconsin, South Carolina, Colorado, California and the rest of the States perhaps we could all actually afford to go to the Doctor.