Mark Penn Is Apparently Not To Blame For All Of Clinton's Missteps

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First Posted: 03- 6-08 12:38 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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As the Clinton campaign worked to reverse the trend of negative media coverage that they felt had been running against them, there was a certain brilliance to the microstrategy of publicly hurling pollster Mark Penn under the bus. By the time the critical primaries in Texas and Ohio loomed, the media was already well sated on Penn's shanks to turn their ravenous maw on anyone else from the Clinton camp. So Penn went down on record as being the primary cause of their campaign's woes, and it's one more hurdle their candidate has winningly cleared.

Today's WaPo post-mortem gives the Clinton campaign's in-fighting the full-on CSI treatment. But Peter Bake and Ann Kornblut give special attention to Penn, stating that one of the post-primary goals for the Clinton camp was "denying Mark Penn credit." The "depth of hostility" toward Penn is fully measured (exemplified in a hilarious exchange between Penn and his nemesis Harold Ickes where the phrase "[Expletive] you!" is featured), and the cause for blame is enumerated. We learn, among other things, that Bill Clinton's post-South Carolina "Jesse Jackson" remark was Penn's baby:

On Jan. 26, the day of the election, Penn sent an e-mail to the senior campaign staff comparing Obama's victory there to Jesse L. Jackson's two wins in the 1980s. Bill Clinton made the same comparison to reporters that day, generating even more anger among African Americans who perceived it as a way of marginalizing Obama by portraying him as a black candidate who appeals only to black voters.

Still, buried in the piece, we find evidence that Penn was not the only guy in the room with a bad idea. In fact, Penn can claim immunity from prosecution on one of Clinton's most thundering duds:

In Austin on Feb. 21, Clinton had a solid debate performance, although her aides groaned as she accused Obama of offering "change you can Xerox." The line, advisers said, was offered during debate preparation by Bruce Reed, a Clinton White House official, but onstage it came across as forced and drew boos.

Reed is, by the way, president of the conservative Democratic Leadership Council.

So there you have it. It's not all Mark Penn's fault. And like Clinton's Prometheus, he lives on - either to bring the candidate fire or to have his liver devoured by crows.

As the Clinton campaign worked to reverse the trend of negative media coverage that they felt had been running against them, there was a certain brilliance to the microstrategy of publicly hurling pol...
As the Clinton campaign worked to reverse the trend of negative media coverage that they felt had been running against them, there was a certain brilliance to the microstrategy of publicly hurling pol...
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"Change you can Xerox?" Why not "Change you can mimeograph?" Or "change you can copy with a pencil." A more modern version would be "Change you can scan'". Get with the times here. Nobody "xeroxes "anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 03/07/2008

So the Jesse Jackson/South Carolina Clinton stink bomb was premeditated. Of course, we all knew this, but the Clinton campaign claimed Bill was misunderstood and has done more for black people than any politician outside of Lincoln. That is, until his wife was running for president.

Please enjoy this Youtube clip of Senator Clinton's non-apology at Tavis Smiley's State of the Black Union:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a_8nUpzr1c4

Where is the outrage Tavis Smiley? You lambasted Senator Obama for skipping your event yet you gave Hillary Clinton a forum so she could peddle this drivel. This also would lead to a reasonable human being connecting the dots on the Obama the Terrorist photo, the darkening of his picutre in her television spot, and most famously the Clinton tapdance around Obama's religious beliefs.

Senator Clinton does not make mistakes like this. Every last detail is parsed and scripted. Happily the African American electorate sniffed this out and rallied around Senator Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 03/07/2008
- ginnypoo I'm a Fan of ginnypoo 7 fans permalink

Obama admitted on TV at the debate following SC that his camp puhed those misinterpretations on the press, four pages of memoes released from jis side all explaining the twisted logic of how all that stuff was racist....­and to this day even after Barry admitted it, they still allude to 'what Bill said" bunch of hooey is what it is. Everytime you Obama supporters pull out this reference, you call Obama a liar...eit­her you are lying now, he is lying now, or he lied when he admitted it.....eit­her way he is a liar. Stop bringing this up...it just reminds me to remind everyone what a bunch of creeps his camp is being run by. OH, and to this day he has never said they weren't racists, he said "let the people make of it what they will" so I figure her little 'as far as I know' was justified, and considerably less damaging than him making them out to racists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 03/07/2008
- Buddhabman I'm a Fan of Buddhabman 7 fans permalink

This just goes to show another example of Clinton's poor decison making and judgement. She had the choice of any of the top political talent in the world to pick for her campaign and she picked a bum like Mark Penn, and is over paying him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 03/07/2008
- rwferr I'm a Fan of rwferr 3 fans permalink

After Huckabee won Iowa everybody compared him to when Pat Robertson won Iowa only to not win much else. Nobody accused anyone of anything for that comparison but after South Carolina Bill Clinton was a race baiter. Give me a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 03/07/2008
- Ides I'm a Fan of Ides 21 fans permalink

Now that we know Mark Penn wrote that line, can we all agree that it was a horrible line, or do we still give it the benefit of the doubt just because it came out of Bill Clinton's mouth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 03/07/2008

When you say something that incredibiliy stupid it does not help to say you got it from someone else

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 03/06/2008
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Good lord, has anyone ever seen such a repugnant, odious den of vipers as is the Clinton campaign? Can we not reasonably infer a great deal as to the moral character (*ahem*) of the candidate herself, simply by assessing the nature of the crew she has recruited - and the organization she has built - in order to promote her candidacy?

Given that no one ever knows for certain just how a candidate for the Presidency would perform once in office - the only possible exception being an incumbent who is running for re-election - there is a powerful case to be made that the next best way to determine it is to examine the way the candidate has run his/her campaign.

With that in mind, contrast the extremely disciplined, collaborative, well-organized, highly-effective nature of the Obama campaign against the dysfunctional, fratricidal pack of weasels that surrounds HRC, and one begins to get just a taste of the kind of daily soap opera we'd all be in for, should Queen Hillary actually succeed in ascending to the throne.

To restate the painfully obvious, if she can't choose 'em any better than this, and if she can't manage 'em any better than this, why should we believe that she can actually run the country???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 03/06/2008
- rwferr I'm a Fan of rwferr 3 fans permalink

Yea like we can to wait around for Obama to figure things out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 03/07/2008
- lboucher I'm a Fan of lboucher 2 fans permalink

Time: After the Election
Winner: Barack Hussein Obama 44th President of the United States! Amazing!
Jesse Louis Jackson: Vice President! Who else!
His Cabinet:
Louis Farrakhan; a known Anti-Semite, secretary of defense.
Mrs. Obama Secretary of Education: Teaching Black children that white people keep us down! Continuing the perceived racial bigotry!
Jeremiah Wright Homeland security:
Vision for America: He said
White America" had the 9/11 attacks coming, while calling for business "divestment from Israel," a "racist" state along with America.
Al" Sharpton Jr. National Security Adviser!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 03/06/2008
- QueenTiye I'm a Fan of QueenTiye 13 fans permalink
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Yah. Nice to know there are no racists here at HuffPo.

How do you feel about McCain and his pride to be associated with Catholic bashers? (You know, in contrast to Obama both denouncing and rejecting support from Farrakhan?)

QT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/06/2008
- rwferr I'm a Fan of rwferr 3 fans permalink

Yea but he still attends a racist church..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 03/07/2008
- markflour I'm a Fan of markflour 2 fans permalink

This may not matter because It turns out that HRC actually LOST TEXAS because of the caucus...
see here
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87961802&surl=http://www.scpr.org/programs/atc/&f=module-ATC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 03/06/2008
- caywen I'm a Fan of caywen 7 fans permalink

Who is worse? The person who suggests the crappy line, or the person dumb enough to say it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 03/06/2008
- SubparDude I'm a Fan of SubparDude 9 fans permalink

:
The absofokkenlutely weird thing is that Hillary Clinton changes NOT when lying a stolen quip, or ad libbing her own material.

Which is a skill we no longer need.

However much I once defended Husband Bill for it...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 03/06/2008
- rmetz74 I'm a Fan of rmetz74 10 fans permalink

PLAGIARISM!!!

Hahahahahahaha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 03/06/2008
- Tankan I'm a Fan of Tankan 3 fans permalink

Stealth racism!

Plain and simple!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 03/06/2008

So if the Jackson comment was pre-planned and fed to Bill Clinton by Penn, how is this not race-baiting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 03/06/2008

Now I've been vetted!

I've been saying all along that Bill was the weather balloon. If he tried it out and it worked, Hillary could use it. If it didn't, it was just that damn uncontrollable Bill!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 03/06/2008

How pathetic most of you people blogging sound. Bill Clinton has been an avid civil rights supporter his whole career. The fact that he put his office in Harlem tells you how much he loves the African Amercian pepole. What the former President did not know is that the African Americans would turn this into a race issue. THAT IS THE REALTRAGEDY.

Clinton/Obama 2008. That is what it should be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 03/06/2008
- dct19 I'm a Fan of dct19 2 fans permalink

He is not above criticism because he has supported civil rights. Besides, that's expected and easy for a white democrat he wasn't taking any risks by giving lip service to supporting civil rights. But when he had a chance to do something about the disparity between crack and powder cocaine sentencing laws he didn't do a damn thing. He's only talking about it now because he thinks he can score points with black people. He and his wife have no idea of how badly they have f ' ed up with black people but if Hillary wins the nomination they will find out exactly how much damage they've done. Black folks will either stay home or vote for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 03/06/2008
- suekzoo I'm a Fan of suekzoo 3 fans permalink

LMAO! There would have been no issue at all if Bill would have kept his mouth shout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 03/06/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

African Americans have not turned this into a race issue. The media has. There is no tragedy here at all. We are winners. We have two candidates who can beat the repuglicans soundly. Stop with all negative stuf.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 03/06/2008

SO? The Clintons will do anything, say anything to get back in power. Do you think we're talking about principles here? Principles have never been their strong suit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/06/2008

"The fact that he put his office in Harlem tells you how much he loves the African Amercian pepole."

Or it could be a continuance of pandering to a specific voting bloc.

A nice attempt at defense and deflection, but...anyo­ne who isn't a moron can read through the lines of not just the Clinton quotes in January, but the quotes of Bob Johnson (a man who made his house out of peddling smut on television), and Andrew Young (under the guise of, "I'm just playin').

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 03/06/2008
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