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Obama Camp Presents Clinton As McCain-Lite

Obama Camp Presents Clinton As McCain-Lite

March 6, 2008 04:30 PM


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Advisers to Senator Barack Obama sought to change the context of the campaign's foreign policy debate by casting Sen. Hillary Clinton as John McCain-lite.

In a conference call with reporters late Thursday afternoon, Obama aide Greg Craig went through a litany of issues in which the New York Democrat and Arizona Republican aligned on international affairs.

"For seven years she aligned herself with Sen. McCain in putting all our eggs in General Musharaf's basked," Craig said. "And she aligned herself with Sen. McCain when they both criticized Barack Obama for taking action against al Qaeda leadership, which has taken safe havens in Pakistan. She aligned herself with Sen. McCain in supporting the Kyl-Lieberman resolution," which many Democrats fear raises the specter of war with Iran.

In a statement later in the afternoon, Clinton's spokesperson Phil Singer said that Craig had falsely stated the Senator's position on all three of the aforementioned topics. (Click here to see the detailed rebuttal)

"Distorting Hillary's record won't address the doubts voters have about Senator Obama's readiness to be Commander in Chief," said Singer.

Earlier in the day, Clinton held a press conference with retired military leaders, in which she played up the notion that Obama was too wet-behind-the-ears to serve as commander in chief.

"I think that since we now know Sen. (John) McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it's imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold," the New York senator said. "I believe that I've done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you'll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy."

Craig and adviser Susan Rise hit back against this argument as well, challenging Clinton to produce one instance in which she was involved in "crisis management," and arguing that she had drastically overemphasized her roles in the North Ireland peace process, pushing for women's rights in China, and opening up borders in Bosnia.

The crux of at least the early portion of the conference, however, was focused on tying Clinton to the presumptive Republican nominee.

"Sen. Clinton seems to believe that the way to beat John McCain in a debate is to talk like he talks, act like he acts, and vote like he votes on national security issue," said Craig. "We believe Democrats in the past have lost debates with Republicans because of these issues."


 
 

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- speakingtruth2power See Profile I'm a Fan of speakingtruth2power permalink


The more we see of the Clintons and their DLC, the more similarities

we notice between them and the bullies and dissemblers of BushCo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 03/08/2008
- Plank See Profile I'm a Fan of Plank permalink

They have so much in common. She seems to see McCain as a role model.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 03/08/2008
- juevosrancheros See Profile I'm a Fan of juevosrancheros permalink

For those of you who might not have seen this:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/2008/03/flashback_hrc_once_thought_tax.html

I'm thinking maybe "Lazio-Lite" might be a better term. If only Lazio had better name recognition ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 03/07/2008
- TotobiAyokoh23 See Profile I'm a Fan of TotobiAyokoh23 permalink

Hillary would be happy to see McCain at the White House than Barack Obama. It is like if I do not get it, no Democrat should get it. The Clintons are destroying the Democratic party through a malfunctionng family drama playing on the national scene. It seems as if there is a deal b/n Bill and Hillary to get the latter at the White House in compensation of the sexual foibles of the former. The Democratic Party has been held hostage and very soon, a characteristic Stockholm syndrome will emerge to the total destruction of the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 03/07/2008
- Tellmethetruth See Profile I'm a Fan of Tellmethetruth permalink

Making Clinton "McCain-like" is a compliment. Keep it up and she will get the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 03/07/2008
- hazmaq See Profile I'm a Fan of hazmaq permalink

You consider it a 'compliment' that Hillary joined with all of the Republicans and voted against her own party -including Obama - to defeat the Democrats efforts to stop the use of cluster bombing civilian areas??

The image of Clinton, at her Command center, watching all the children explode after picking up those toylike cluster bomblets and -smiling in victory? -is a f***ing compliment to you??

That makes you. MY FRIEND, just as much of a MONSTER as she is.

And it makes Diane Feinstein, the very sponsor of that bill, a hypocrite.

b, sponsored by the hypocrits Feinstein

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 03/08/2008
- ladydriver See Profile I'm a Fan of ladydriver permalink

Why can't everyone just grow up, find out the facts before they open their mouths, and quit treating the American voters in a way that insults our intelligence? Just give us the truth, a concept, I know from experience, with which the Clintons have difficulty.

Supporters of both of these candidates also need to cut out the name-calling and focus on the issues. One of the issues that should concern all of us is what this battle is doing to our party and our chances of putting someone in the White House who's not going to be a 3rd term for Bush!

Grow up. All of us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 03/07/2008
- Tankan See Profile I'm a Fan of Tankan permalink

The nightmare ticket!

McCain/Clinton 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 03/07/2008
- unityman See Profile I'm a Fan of unityman permalink

Hillary has sold me on the experience issue. If she's nominated, I think we all ought to vote for McCain. By her standard, he's clearly the most qualified.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 03/07/2008
- tbone99 See Profile I'm a Fan of tbone99 permalink

True-but Obama is Reagan Lite. What does it take to get a Democrat around here?Oh yeah we didn't want one - Edwards or Kucinich couldn't get the funds to run against the two corporate front runners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 03/07/2008
- ssg13565 See Profile I'm a Fan of ssg13565 permalink

Edwards misdirected his rhetoric. He kept leaving the impression

that the two Americas were divided between the rich and the poor.

The majority of voters probably do not consider themselves to be poor.

So if you run a campaign that pits the majority of voters against the poor,

how can you expect to win the majority of voters? The Democrats have

been making this mistake for far too many years.

What Edwards really meant was the divide was between the super rich and

the rest of us. He made that point explicitly in a Charlie Rose interview.

Unfortunately he kept slipping back to his rich versus poor talk.

Fortunately Barack Obama is smart enough not to make the Edwards' mistake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 03/08/2008
- beyondnothing See Profile I'm a Fan of beyondnothing permalink

Obama understands about speaking to American's deepest values, while Reagan made it sound like he was speaking to our values. Clinton speaks to our policy "hearts" Yeah right? No such thing.

She votes like Rep's, like banning flag burning, cause she misunderstands how they win. They don't win on issues, they win on how they frame them. Read George Lakoff's "Don't think of an Elephant" A great progressive and cognitive scientist. Obama campaigns like Regean by speaking about values, though his are sincere, while Sen. Clinton votes like Reagan and McCain.

Stop. Drop. and Think!! You can have similarities with an effective but evil person by being effective, not evil. Think!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 03/07/2008
- tbone99 See Profile I'm a Fan of tbone99 permalink

Actually their voting records vary by little, they both are supported by corporate donors and they value winning..neither of them stood up when Kucinich was excluded from the debate and without Edwards, neither of them would have a viable health care plan or even mentioned NAFTA or economic injustice in their platforms.What kind of progressive forgets to do that? They've both brought in Repugs as admirable ( you certainly don't see that reciprocated ,I might add.)

There is no evil here except that of people who think their problems will be solved by having the right leader..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 03/08/2008
- sonofsamstone See Profile I'm a Fan of sonofsamstone permalink

McCain-lite isn't too much of a stretch when you read things like this in the Washington Post:

Washington Post

Mark J. Penn is a man who wears many hats: high-paid political and corporate pollster, chief executive of an international communications and lobbying company, and chief strategist to New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's bid for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Enough connections for you?

Well, there are more. Penn's firm, Burson-Marsteller Worldwide -- with 2,000 employees and $300 million a year in revenue -- owns BKSH & Associates, the major lobbying firm chaired by Charles R. Black Jr. That's right, Black, counselor to Republican presidents, reports to Clinton's top strategist.

The connections get even more entangled. Burson-Marsteller is a subsidiary of WPP Group, a London-based advertising and PR giant that owns many of the biggest names on K Street. These include Quinn Gillespie & Associates, Wexler & Walker Public Policy Associates, Timmons & Co., Ogilvy Government Relations Worldwide (formerly the Federalist Group), Public Strategies Inc., Dewey Square Group and Hill & Knowlton.

To be more precise, Penn's parent company employs as lobbyists and advisers an ex-chairman of the Republican National Committee (Edward W. Gillespie), a former House GOP leader (Robert S. Walker), a top GOP fundraiser (Wayne L. Berman), and the former media adviser to President Bush (Mark McKinnon).

WPP's Democrats are just as well known. They include an ex-aide to President Jimmy Carter (Anne Wexler), an ex-aide to President Bill Clinton (Jack Quinn), an ex-Cabinet officer for Clinton and Bush (Norman Y. Mineta), and a former top presidential campaign adviser for Al Gore and John Kerry (Michael J. Whouley).

The range of interests represented by these people is a staggering list of corporate America's who's who, with Penn himself a longtime adviser to Microsoft.

"This is a classic example of how big money has inextricably intertwined the campaign advising and lobbying worlds of modern-day Washington with potential conflicts of interest all over the place," said Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a watchdog group.

WPP insists that things are not quite so intertwined and that its units are strictly segregated. "The various WPP businesses are purposely run independently, and there is no risk of any conflict between clients," said Howard Paster, who is Penn's boss, an ex-aide to President Clinton and a high-level volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign.

"I also, personally, don't do any lobbying," added Penn, 53.

But WPP does encourage cross-referrals, especially to avoid conflicts within its firms. "We occasionally will do things with one of the other companies," said Quinn, whose firm worked with Burson-Marsteller's polling firm, Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates, on the reelection of Italy's former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi. The polling firm, of which Penn remains president, is the WPP unit that will be paid millions by the Clinton campaign for Penn's attention.

And Clinton will be happy to pay it. "He's a critical member of our campaign, and we're lucky to have him," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 03/07/2008
- billis3811 See Profile I'm a Fan of billis3811 permalink

If you believe in America, then vote McCAIN/CLINTON in 2008!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 03/07/2008
- OrganizersWin See Profile I'm a Fan of OrganizersWin permalink

Old news lost on most 'democratic voters' who have given up real progressivism for pandering politics and false paradigms.... Hillary is NOT McCain lite.. she is Hillary!!! And anyone who has been awake for the last 15 years or so would understand that she is as much of a progressive as Ronald Reagan's corpse. Defending Bill against Monica attacks was fine... but what happened to the list of 149 things he did as President that spit in the face of everything progressive and American. Oh, that's right... he had a big "D" after his name, so there was no other choice, right? The ignorance of the majority of Democratic voter is only eclipsed by the ignorance of the majority of Republican voters, but is probably MORE frustrating. The democratic party sold out progressives over 30 years ago, and have become more blatant and unforgiving with each passing election cycle. The will also 'eat their own' in smaller races when 'real' progressives try to affect change within the party. And without informed progressives affecting the electoral frame, whether within or without the dem. party, what else would be expected--- Hillary, Nancy, and all the dems who keep "letting us down" cannot be blamed... they crawled out of the same swamp people like Nader have been trying to drain for decades. Keep playing with your small electric gadgets and bashing real progressives, while worshiping the celebrity gossip/ soap opera politics over candidates in a two party system, with rigged elections and totally manipulated media... everything will be ok..... sure it will!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 03/07/2008
- KaAp See Profile I'm a Fan of KaAp permalink

Why doesn't Hillary and Bill and their DLC group with their lies and swiftboating techniques conservative policies and self absorbed self aggrandizing nonsense at the expense of both the Democratic party and their Democratic opponents ... just make a new party like the Republican Lite? Why doesn't she just run with McCain?
Glad to see Bill has a new friend to play with ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 03/07/2008
- WadeNYC See Profile I'm a Fan of WadeNYC permalink

Amen to that. I used to have a photo of Bill Clinton and me taken at a 1996 fundraiser proudly displayed on my bookshelf. I recently threw it in the garbage. This campaign has convinced me that the Clinton critics with whom I so passionately argued during his presidency were right -- Bill Clinton has no moral center. Bill was right when he said during the 2004 election that if one candidate appeals to your hopes and the other to your fears, vote for hope. That was a convenient truth when the opponent, W, was the fearmonger, but much less so when the hope candidate is beating your wife. As Nixon famously said (to paraphrase), "People don't vote their hopes. They vote their fears. They don't teach you that in Sunday School." Carl Rove knew that. Apparently, so does Hillary. If Hillary wins the nomination in this style, I will not only vote for McCain, I will write him a check.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 03/07/2008
- uglybetty See Profile I'm a Fan of uglybetty permalink

Careful there you are about to choke on all that Hate !!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 03/07/2008
- kylie See Profile I'm a Fan of kylie permalink

No, that's just Hillary trying to cram herself down our throats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 03/07/2008
- Jazz42 See Profile I'm a Fan of Jazz42 permalink

I totally agree with you.
You are one of a few that make any sense.
(KaAp)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 03/07/2008
- gmt217 See Profile I'm a Fan of gmt217 permalink

What qualifies Hillary to answer that phone at 3AM any more than Barack Obama? Their qualifications in that manner seem to be about the same -- almost none. And Hillary's time as First Lady doesn't count here -- not because she wasn't an important part of that White House as far as policy goes, but because she never had her National Security Clearance during those years. Which means, when the proverbial phone rang, and when Bill would have been actively involved in National Security issues in real time, Hillary would NOT have been allowed in the room -- she did have the clearance required to be there.

I would love for a Hillary supporter to answer this one. Criticizing another opponent for a weakness when you have nothing to point to to demonstrate why his weakness is really a strength of yours drives me absolutely insane. Neither candidate has had to make decisions that may cost lives -- ever! So, if that's your biggest criteria, then vote for McCain.

If Hillary won the nomination, John McCain should play that 3AM add verbatim and simply edit the picture at the end, the argument is 100% as valid against Hillary as Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 03/07/2008
- KDH See Profile I'm a Fan of KDH permalink

The only "crisis management" Obama has experienced, is trying to deal with his Rezco scandal. And yes, Hillary is like McCain in some ways. They're both tough fighters, unlike Obama, who's a weak, appeasing, compromiser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 AM on 03/07/2008
- Plank See Profile I'm a Fan of Plank permalink

Obama returned whatever money was related to this guy. He also had the courage to state it was a bad decision.
Now, the Hillary campaign refuses to return the donations made by a company sued for repeated sexual harrasments. I guess women's rights are worth fighting for as long as they don't interfere with her obsession with power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 03/08/2008
- PhyloSeFiser See Profile I'm a Fan of PhyloSeFiser permalink

Your accusations of Obama reflect more on your lack of knowledge about Obama, than they do Obama's supposed lack of toughness.

Try this article by Cass Sunstein, who knows Obama well, for starters:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cass-r-sunstein/the-obama-i-know_b_90034.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 03/07/2008
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