Clinton Supporters On Strike At Daily Kos

Clinton Supporters On Strike At Daily Kos

Daily Kos   |  Alegre   |   March 15, 2008 07:23 PM


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This is an open letter to the progressive blogosphere...

I've been posting at DailyKos for nearly 4 years now and started writing diaries in support of Hillary Clinton back in June of last year. Over the past few months I've noticed that things have become progressively more abusive toward my candidate and her supporters.

I've put up with the abuse and anger because I've always believed in what our on-line community has tried to accomplish in this world. No more. DailyKos is not the site it once was thanks to the abusive nature of certain members of our community.

I've decided to go on "strike" and will refrain from posting here as long as the administrators allow the more disruptive members of our community to trash Hillary Clinton and distort her record without any fear of consequence or retribution. I will not be posting at DailyKos effective immediately. I will not help drive up traffic or page-hits as long as my candidate - a good and fine DEMOCRAT - is attacked in such a horrid and sexist manner not only by other diarists, but by several of those posting to the front page.

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...aaaawwwww...I miss them already...

..oh, wait.....who are they again?...

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 03/17/2008

The people who say they plan on voting for McCain (at least the 5 or so names I recognized).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 03/22/2008

Here is the Kos response to the strike.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/17/12417/1285/527/478498

Warning, billary supporters. The truth may hurt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 03/17/2008

Hillary is having money troubles.

Her paid blogstaff was told to quit posting to save money

The "strike" was just a clever red herring

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 03/17/2008

Good. Why don't you use the extra time to help Billary with their tax returns? They do their own, because even an accountant looking at their finances would be too risky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 03/17/2008

Please go on strike. How about you quit altogether? I love tantrums - they're just so effective and professionalism. Stomp. Stomp. Pout. Really impressive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 03/17/2008

Good. Some of us in the "liberal blogosphere" are pretty chapped about being constantly told that we must all follow dear leader Barack or we're traitors to the cause. Liberal web sites should stick to principles and stop following this charlatan. Once allegiances to candidates are declared, rifts occur. Some of us aren't won over by Obama's messianic movement. Some of us are frightened and dispirited by it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 03/17/2008

I've lost so much respect for the Clintons that I'm not even sure I could stomach voting for Hillary in the general election should she be the nominee. I've only recently come to this after the Ferraro fiasco. Sad. I so hope now that Obama gets this. I was a supporter of his before (voted or Kuchinich in my primary, not that it counts), but this racist crap is despicable. I did really care that much before, now I do and I hope Michigan gets a do over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 03/17/2008

good luck with the strike, I hope these strikers will get better "benefit" from some place else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 03/17/2008

At this point, I question any Clinton supporter, especially educated ones. Because through all the manipulation, race-baiting, dirty politics, scare and dishonarable tactics the Clinton campaign has demonstrated, I feel anyone who supports her demonstrates these same characteristics in their own daily lives. What normal, emotionally healthy human being seeks this type of behavior as a friend? For Clinton supporters who are ignorant (uninformed) and/or prejudice, I understand. For those who are educated, I can't seem to wrap my mind around their continued support. So, to the Daily Kos writers....Buh-Bye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 03/17/2008

Division in the Democratic Party? Do the math, this is nothing more than an added plus for the McCain campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 03/17/2008

Ron Paul will be the last man/woman standing and he will receive his rightful place in the white house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 03/17/2008

Oh, great... more Hillary victims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 AM on 03/17/2008

Wow ! how sad. Clintons people on strike, While you guys are on strike take that oportunity to do some research on that " Butter Won't Melt in Her Mouth candidate of yours. You'll see for yourselves what a corrupt person she is, and if that doesn't sway you,you've got some serious issues to deal with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 03/17/2008

What you do is you blog and post and write about how you think things are. Just what do you think you will accomplish by taking off? The folks you think are wronging your gal now have the floor. Cheeze! Perhaps the exit from Kos is just a depressed recognition that Obama is ahead, and HRC cannot catch up, no matter how much gnashing and snarling that ensues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 03/17/2008

In the interest of free speech, I just checked out for my first time mydd.com, and talkleft.com, two sites mentioned by the "striker" at dailykos. If you want some relief from the "clinton is a monster" crowd, you might want to check them out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 03/17/2008

Hillary was wrong when she said that she and McCain are qualified but Obama is not. Obama has NEVER done anything like that. I am afraid that was indefensible. Hillary and Hillary supporters, I am sure that even you know how wrong that was.

When we don't like something that our candidate says or does, we tell him so. That's the beauty of our campaign. We told him we did not like the Walmart/ Rezko debate. We felt it hurt the party and was beneath him. We told him so and he took heed. That is the beauty of bottom-up politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 03/17/2008

The fact that Obama's supporters are so willing, even eager, to purge the progressive movement of alternative voices speaks volumes of the so-called message of unity he purports to embody. His most recent call to unity was actually a back-handed swipe at those who don't support his campaign. By pretending to stay above the fray while his surrogates engage in all levels of character assassination and promoting divisiveness within the party, Obama has chosen his own political ambitions and delusions of grandeur above the good of the nation. In recent years, I've not seen a candidate who represents the "L'etat, c'est moi" mentality more than Obama.

Long-time yellow-dog Democrats aren't leaving the debate because we are losing the battle of ideas, we're leaving because Obama's rabid supporters in both the MSM and blogosphere have abandoned all calls to reason. So fervent are these people that they hold no qualms at throwing under the bus anyone who dares to even attempt to elevate the conversation to a discussion of platform and achievement. Instead of building a debate on genuine disagreements, Obama's minions have debased and slimed every person, no matter what their contributions to the party or the good works they have done over the years, who dare question his platform. In this regard, the Obama campaign exactly mirrors that of Bush and Rove.

The greater risk is to the party. I, as one of tens of millions, am proud to be inspired by Hillary. I believe she will make the best president we've had since FDR. Yet, day after day, I'm told by a cadre of uninformed, inflexible, unreasonable jackasses that my support falls on the opposite side of hope, as if Obama had exclusive rights on the concept. Obama's supporters mistake arrogance for persuasion. I've made every attempt to be an honest broker on HuffPo, but it doesn't matter - the deck has been stacked and this forum is no longer a place where a genuine conversation can take place. The entire editorial board is in the tank for Obama, there is no equivalent to an ombudsman to fact check and ensure principles of fairness are upheld, there is no accountability for the bloggers, and, frankly, most of the posters are either too dunder-headed or doctrinaire to tolerate opposing points of view.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 03/16/2008

Nice try. Blame Obama for Clinton's failures.

The fact that Obama supporters criticize Clinton isn't the problem. Clinton's problem is that the criticism about her is accurate.

Edwards '08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 03/17/2008

Thank you bluesnot! I see CLINTON using Rovian campaign tactics and scratching and clawing for the prize no matter the cost or to whom, not the other way around. Obama supporters are not brainwashed followers of a new messiah. We are intelligent, caring people who want someone with dignity and calm leading this nation. We're tired of the same old political game of smear tactics and lies, which Clintons have used during their entire careers. Hill-Bill are truly behaving like hillbillies these days, and it's just plain embarrassing to the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 03/17/2008

Anyone still supporting Clinton has NOT done enough reading. Her record is abominable. She does not have the strength of character to be president. She has maligned other women who spoke up about their abuse at the hands of her husband. She and Bill have put themselves in debt to lobbyists and special interest groups and wealthy patrons.

Get yer heads outta yer butts, people, and do the work. Don't ASSUME she's OK just because she's a woman. That's dumb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 03/16/2008

First, Sen. Clinton donors threatened to suspend donations to the DNC (some even requested their donation be returned).

Now, sensitive blogger refuses to blog at the DailyKos because other people dare to practice their free speech rights.

Did the red phone ring at 3am and someone forgot to tell me?

Perhaps she should blog where there are McCain supporters since Sen. Clinton identifies more closely with him than her fellow democratic presidential candidate.

Stop the cycle . . . no more Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 03/16/2008

I'm not going to miss them. Stay out for as long as you like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/16/2008

Incredible! In the frontline of democracy and a free press, a blogger actually plays the victim card and people join her. Amazing. She claims she's being picked on and other bloggers flock to her cause. I'm sure those steeped in the cult of personality can't see it now, but the absolute absurdity of this argument is both amusing and sad. The readers are being mean to me and the web site has to make them stop. WAHHHHH!

Grow up. Or quit blogging. This is the free market of ideas and you can't complete. And your mommy can't save you here. The only action DailyKos should take is to cancel your account and let you go blog for Fox News, where one sided ideas and no debate is the norm.

No wonder you like Hillary - she's acting like the republicans with her illogical attacks. Of course she also trying to play the victim. One more reason I won't vote for her: leadership isn't about tearing people down and then whining that you are treated unfairly. Because when you do, so do your followers. And this moronic "strike" is the result.

Can you imagine America run like this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 03/16/2008

Gnomic, you gnailed it. I wonder if that DailyKos blogger was whining as loudly when Bill Clinton juxtaposed Obama and Jesse Jackson in SC, or when Robert Johnson insinuated Obama was a drug dealer, or when Bob Kerrey tried to reinforce radical views of Obama as a Muslim.

If your candidate is an attack dog, then you shouldn't WHINE when people defend themselves from the
dog's attacks. As if people with miss these striking bloggers! All they've done is allow their opponents to fill their tiny vacuum with opposing viewpoints.

WAAAAAAHHHHH! Very friggin funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 03/17/2008

They're whining just like Hillary. Oh poor Hillary! the bloggers are mean to her,cause they don't agree with her scumbag tactics and the fact that she's destroying the democratic party. So,we'll go on strike,and maybe that will make them feel sorry for her and they'll say nice things instead. Grow up already you Hillary supporters!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 03/17/2008

The simple comment that Obama made a while back... that "her supporters will vote for me, but my supporters will never vote for her" tells you everything you need to know about who the demagogues are. (not the hillary people). Think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 03/17/2008

Considering the simple fact that you're misquoting him tells us what we already know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 03/22/2008

Oh BooHoo.
Good Riddance. I for one will enjoy the break from people completely detached from reality who have no regard for democracy or the will of voters, determined to push a candidate who -if she had any other last name- would have been dismissed by the media weeks ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/16/2008

Obama is not getting my support because of where he stands on two top issues. Ending The Iraq War and Universal Healthcare.

Obama's top foreign affairs advisor, Samantha Power said that his 16 month withdrawl plan was just a "best case scenario" and that it's just something he's saying as candidate for president. What? That sounds more like McCain's plan. We could still be in Iraq for years if Obama gets in office. I think she was fired for telling us what they discuss in private about Iraq and not the "monster" comment. Listen for yourself what they are planning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzy3lObigF0

In regards to Heathcare, Obama has plenty of negatives to tell you about Clinton's plan to distract you from the fact that there is "No Chance" we will see Universal Heathcare under his plan.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/04/krugman-if-obama-is-president-theres-no-chance-for-universal-health-care/

Obama is not the agent of change for the Democratic Party. He never was. Hating on Hillary doesn't change that fact one bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 03/16/2008

I understand your objections, but I can't say that I find anymore confidence in the details of Obama's Healthcare plan [scant as they are] than Hillary's--neither plan are any sort of reasonable solution.

Conyers' HR 676 bill is a single-payer healthcare plan, and it is better suited than any plan offered by either candidate.

On the Iraq issue, again, neither candidate satisfies my wishes, nor the wishes of most Americans, IMO.

I noticed MsLiz's reply to you about a commitment to withdrawal from Iraq--I assert that such concepts are the result of the subversion the US Constitution, and that all information that can be used by the citizens of the United States to formulate an informed opinion, and ultimately a fully represented POLITICAL POSITION, is due them, and should not place a unitiary executive-bearing president [as Obama or Clinton would inherit all that Bush has set in place, and will not rescind any newly gained power] in the position to make such a decision in the name of 300 million people, based on information that is exclusive, extremely difficult to verify, and likely manipulated by hegmonic intelligence agency dogma.

Timid individuals would have us believe that we cannot possibly offer sound judgement in determining our foreign policy in regards to military actions; that is a LIE told with the voice of those who desire empire.

So, I just muddy the water by saying that, IMO, Hillary is perhaps less than a corporate shill, but not far removed. She could be a decent president in more prosperous times, but I fear we will make no progressive headway during her presidency.

I do not know what Obama is--for me, his enigmatic qualities are growing, and not necessarily in a good way; his failure to embrace the very true statements made by Rev. Wright concerning the cause/effect of the 9/11 attacks truly make me question his motivations. If it is a matter of his politcal savvy overriding his foreign policy position, then I can understand that; but if he truly does not agree with what is OBVIOUSLY THE TRUTH about our crimes in the Middle East and the subsequent BLOWBACK, then I would have no qualms about loudly denouncing him.

BUT--with Obama I still have the underlying feeling that his message of HOPE is more than it appears to be; Hillary, on the other hand, isn't likely to rock the boat much in any area of government.

One fact to remember: without serious and dilligent efforts by the next president to restore our government to a true system of checks and balances by eliminating excessive Executive Order powers enacted by BushCo, we will have entered the age of the Leviathan Presidency--from there all roads lead to Rome, and to Rome's fate.

No president should have that kind of power, regardless of party affiliation; I fear any president with the potential powers of a dictator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 03/17/2008

Well, that's your choice. I disagree. I think Iraq will be a mess for anybody, and I really disagree that her healthcare plan is better than his. Actually, I think Michael Moore's right on this one. You don't subsidize greedy health insurance companies. You scrap the whole broken program and start over.

But I do appreciate that you are making your decision for substantive reasons. There is no reason for hate and name-calling, at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 AM on 03/17/2008

I disagree and urge you to reconsider.

No Democratic candidate should promise to get us out of Iraq by a date certain. As soon as the new president is sworn in, he or she will be privy to much more information than they presently have. They need to be flexible. I am satisfied that Obama knows that going into Iraq was a mistake, and that the resolution is not as simple as packing up and coming home.

As for universal health care, what is Hillary's plan? Force everyone to buy private health insurance. The health insurance companies love that. Oh yeah, isn't she cozy with health insurance companies? Just because she failed once to get the health insurance crisis resolved doesn't mean she will succeed this time.

We need single payer insurance, and the money that we and our employers spend on private insurance will pay for it, and it will cost less.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 03/17/2008

Good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 03/16/2008

Hillary Clinton and her campaign people have done this to themselves. I am sick of all of them.
They go negative and then still are getting beaten, and just cannot stand it. I am a white woman who voted for Hillary in the CA primary and regretted my vote by the time they got to South Carolina. The final straw was Wolfson with the Ken Starr tactics remarks aimed at Obama. I quit. I hope a lot of other women who have been sticking to all of this garbage like glue realize that it is not worth doing or saying anything to win. It is ugly and it is a mess. There are too many lies about experience, and garbage about thresholds, and McCain and Hillary and then there is Obama. Enough!! Obama has my vote and I no longer care about the Clintons or their minions. They blew it. That is all. Who cares about the whining Kos posters?
Your candidate brought it onto herself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 03/16/2008

I detect a liar. How could you have voted for Clinton in CA before regretting your vote by the time they got to SC? Please tell us about your remarkable time travel abilities!!

The SC election (Jan 26) came BEFORE CA (Super Tuesday, Feb 5) so you are just one big lying Obama supporter. Stop pretending you voted for Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 03/17/2008

CA started early voting January 10th. Check your facts before accusing others of lying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 03/17/2008
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