Clinton Camp Hedges, Then Backpedals, On Troop Withdrawal

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First Posted: 03-17-08 02:22 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in its criticism.

"Out campaigning Senator Obama tells voters that as president he'd withdraw combat brigades from Iraq within 16 months, but one of his top foreign policy advisers told a different story," Sen. Clinton herself declared in a speech today. "Giving speeches alone won't end the war and making campaign promises you might not keep certainly won't end it. In the end, the true test is not the speeches a president delivers, it's whether the president delivers on the speeches."

On a conference call later that day, however, aides to the New York senator fumbled a bit, giving the impression that their Iraq plans could also change depending on circumstance -- and then abruptly back-peddling.

In a rapid back-and-forth exchange at the end of the session, Michael Dobbs, of the Washington Post, asked repeatedly whether Clinton would stick to withdrawing one to two brigades of troops a month even if there is a massive spike of violence as U.S. troops departed.

Trying his best to keep the campaign line, Lee Feinstein, Clinton's National Security Director, nevertheless acknowledged: "There are, in the world, contingencies."

He was, to be sure, quick to get back on point. "But it is a very different manner when you enter office un-intending to implement the plan you have put out on the campaign trail, which what we have seemed to have learned n on the basis of the comments of a former senior aide to Senator Obama."

This, however, was not a sufficient explanation for Dobbs who rightfully wanted to know whether a hypothetical Clinton administration would really tie itself to a withdrawal plan more than a half a year prior to taking office.

Weren't contingencies exactly what Power was talking about? "Even if there's a new upsurge of violence in Iraq she will stick to that plan, or is that just the best case scenario?" he asked.

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"Hillary has dealt with this issue a million times," said Neera Tanden, the campaign's policy director. "She has said she would bring her troops home. She has said there will be a small force to address al Qaeda."

This, Dobbs noted, was another evasion. Yes or no, would Clinton stick to the withdrawal plan she has outlined even if the security situation in Iraq were to fall apart?

Finally, the campaign's spokesperson stepped in.

"This is Howard Wolfson," he said. "You asked for a one-word answer and the answer is yes."

Late Update: Susan Rice, Senator Obama's foreign policy adviser, is asked about the same issue on a later conference call. She doesn't, as Wolfson did, firmly say that Obama will not adjust his withdrawal plan. She does, however, rip into Feinstein and, tangentially Clinton, for the "contingencies" remark.

"Sen. Obama has been very clear about his position, he believes that it is entirely realistic and responsible to redeploy our forces from Iraq at a rate of one to two combat brigades per month and that is what he will immediately do upon taking office... He believes it is perfectly possible, and perfectly reasonable, to affect a rate of one to two combat brigades per month.

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"On the one hand Lee Feinstein said that [Sen. Clinton's] plan was subject to contingencies, which was an interesting phrase and begs the question, what are contingencies?... But if that is Sen. Clintons' position, it is the height of politics and hypocrisy for Sen. Clinton to criticize Sen. Obama for doing what I just said."

Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in...
Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in...
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- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 278 fans permalink
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SINCE THE BUSH ADMINSTRATION LIES SO MUCH WHO COULD MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT THE WHOLE STRY AND COMPELETE INFORMATION.

TRUSTING THE BUSH WHITEHOUSE IS LIKE PLAYING WITH RATTLE SNAKES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 03/18/2008

Hahaha...the Hilary clinton camp are a pathetic bunch of very very good liars and spinners.

What I don't get is how quite manay supporters can be so gullible as to fall for Hilary's wily claims and negativity. Are Americans really that dumb?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 03/18/2008
- lawyeredup I'm a Fan of lawyeredup 6 fans permalink

Why is it that very time the Obama camp miss step; their sorogates out there always wants to play gotyou with the Clinton camp instead of just admitting their mistake...... I have never seen anything more pathetic, say one thing to the masses, say another in closed door. So much for politics of change and hope!.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 03/18/2008
- Oldchef I'm a Fan of Oldchef 2 fans permalink

Clinton has said consistently since last year in more than one debate that withdrawal plans would depend on the situation at the time. That's the same thing Obama said and has said consistently. They were both chastised by Edwards for reneging on their promises. Sound familiar? Go back to his adviser's full remarks including the sentences before and after the one quoted by Clinton. Get your facts right, please. Or is that just "lawyer speak"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 03/18/2008
- snowcat I'm a Fan of snowcat 23 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 03/18/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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- "The President has kept all of the promises he intended to keep."

- George Stephanopolous,
speaking on "Larry King Live" about the Bill Clinton campaign

http://www.giga-usa.com/quotes/topics/presidency_t001.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 03/18/2008
- slc20 I'm a Fan of slc20 4 fans permalink

This is why Clinton has such low numbers when it comes to honesty, and Obama has such high numbers. Obama has been honest regarding Iraq. He has been practical, pragmatic, and honest. Either Clinton is lying, and she too would withdraw responsibly, rather than just up and leaving no matter what, or she's a disaster waiting to happen. Neither is good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 03/18/2008

Hillary and her campaign has turned out to be quite a pos.

I would have voted for her last year. :(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 03/18/2008
- Serena67 I'm a Fan of Serena67 2 fans permalink

"Giving speeches alone won't end the war and making campaign promises you might not keep certainly won't end it. In the end, the true test is not the speeches a president delivers, it's whether the president delivers on the speeches."

Senator Clinton,
You do realize that Obama must first take office before he can "deliver," don't you? Maybe you should worry about delivering on your blurry and pretentious speeches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 03/18/2008
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There'll be no waffles served in MY campaign 'chow hall', if I get George's job, the Iraq 'war' is OVER, troops out ASAP, and that's all there is to it. Maybe the 'defense' fatcats will hate me, but that's ok, they're going to hate me MORE if I get the job...'cause there's going to be some fair-sized 'defense' budget cuts, too. The whole apparatus has, in my view, grown and swollen to the point where the people in it just about seem to think they all but set our foreign policy, and I'll be politely blunt right now, if/when inaugurated, I'll be giving instructions, and if they're not followed pretty much to-the-letter, I'll be sending out hand-typed letters of notification, in quintuplicate if need be, but I'll 'get er done' in no uncertain terms. There comes a point, and in my estimation, we're there.

Bert08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 03/18/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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Typical Hillary tactic of mis-construing Obama's words.

SSDD

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 03/17/2008
- robeson I'm a Fan of robeson 24 fans permalink
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Hillary was more than a Bush War supporter, she was not silent but was a propagandist for Bush.

NYT, "Senator Clinton found herself adopting the same argument that was being aggressively pushed by the administration. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other administration officials had repeated their claim frequently, and by early October 2002, two out of three Americans believed that Saddam Hussein was connected to the Sept. 11 attacks."

There was no intelligence suggesting this so Hillary must have taken this lie directly from the Bush administration. She was an active Bush supporter for war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 03/17/2008

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/17/poll.democrats/index.html

The above poll contradicts with the Rasmussen Reports poll that is out today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 03/17/2008
- abot I'm a Fan of abot 4 fans permalink

not to be negative but I think we need to wait a week or so to see how this Wright stuff sinks in. Its going to take a week or two for people to process what happened.

Lets see what the polls are in a week or so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 03/18/2008
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Cool! You corrected "backpeddles"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 03/17/2008

The Clintons have never been known for integrity. Many democrats defended Bill over and over....
Be prepared to do the same if Hillary steals the nomination.

Typical Rove tactic - accuse your opponent of your own weakness. Create a lie, and repeat it over and over.... "35 years of experience"....

I don't get why anyone supports Hillary - I really don't. Well, okay, lobbyists I can understand...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 03/17/2008
- marthlois I'm a Fan of marthlois 27 fans permalink

"Another Hillary SECRETHere's an update on the Peter Paul vs. Clintons lawsuit:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868
DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. Go to www.lasuperiorcourt.org (Los Angeles Superior Court) and look in the CIVIL Column, then Click on CASE SUMMARIES then enter these numbers in the box BC304174. It is an active case and has been since January. Sen. Clinton he has not disclosed it. Even after bringing up Rezko and calling Sen. Obama "Ken Starr". I think, before we go any further, she needs to disclose this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 03/17/2008
- lbrillante I'm a Fan of lbrillante 7 fans permalink

Dear Senator Clinton,
Giving speeches alone won' make the words you say truthful nor wiil it gain you a presidency...
I have already lost all respect for you and you cannot shock me anymore.

OBAMA/EDWARDS '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 03/17/2008
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