Seattle Bans Sale Of Bottled Water

Seattle Bans Sale Of Bottled Water

Treehugger   |  Collin Dunn   |   March 19, 2008 04:56 PM



First San Francisco banned it. Then Chicago started taxing it. Now, the city of Seattle is taking action against bottled water; last week, Mayor Greg Nickels signed an executive order to stop the city from buying bottled water. That means no more bottled water at city facilities and events, which may sound like a small step, but it'll make a big difference; last year, the city spent $58,000 on the stuff (and that's not including the true cost and carbon footprint of bottled water). We're willing to bet that the city's taxpayers can probably think of about 58,000 ways to better spend that money.

The move isn't just an issue of saving money, though that is a nice ancillary effect. It's also a strong vote of confidence in the city's municipal water supply and treatment systems; in light of the fracas about prescription drugs in our water last week, it's good to see the city standing behind its tap water and encouraging its employees and citizens to drink up.

Further, "This is a matter of leading by example," Nickels said. "The people of Seattle own one of the best water supplies in the country, every bit as good as bottled water and available at a fraction of the price. When you add up the tremendous environmental costs of disposable plastic bottles clogging our landfills, the better choice is crystal clear."

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where i live it costs money for recycling and we're all broke and nobody knows who to call even if we wanted to. it's absolutely horrible. so banning the sale of water is good. we've seen the dateline stories where they test bottled water against tap water and oftentimes the bottled water has more crap in it. just hold one up to the sunlight, there's shit floating around in there.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 03/22/2008

For those who think they can trust the FEDs to give you the scoop on what's good and what's not good for U, haven't Dick Cheney and his little boy George shown you enough about how much of the US Gov.t's opinions you can trust? If they're "for" it, then I'd rather drink from a sewer.

But then again, I'm not a syncophantic Christian who runs around looking for some additional "hokus-pokus" to swallow.



favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 03/22/2008

Where I live, we have this thing...called recycling. That's right, an industry in itself that reclaims the plastics and reuses them! Not to mention newsprint, cardboard, aluminum etc,,,,we put it out with the trash every week and it is picked up, taken to depots, sorted, recycled and reused.

So, we get portable and potable clean water to drink, no landfill ridiculousness (I am never ceased to be amazed at how many US cities just don't get it....they still garbage plastics, paper and aluminum in most places..sorry, it's just stupid not to step out of the '50s) and a unique industry that in itself, provides employment and tax revenues.

I read things like Seattle, San Fran etc banning bottled water and all I can say is, who are the imbeciles down there making this choices? Please.

Will someone please step up and bring some actual brains to this situation?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 03/21/2008

Recycling is a great help to the environment, one that any right-minded person would support. However, it isn't the "answer". The manufacture and distribution of unnecessary plastic bottles causes environmental damage whether that plastic is eventually recycled (which, surprise, requires fuel and also has an effect on the air around us) or ends up in a landfill. If you must use a plastic bottle, by all means recycle. But if you mustn't, we're all better off without buying it in the first place.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 03/25/2008

Where I live I can't recycle (no curb side pickup, not even a central location where I can bring my recyclables). My small town had tried a recycling program, but unfortunately we were having to pay for it (it couldn't pay for itself). For where I live, in the semi-rural mountain west, add the cost of transporting recyclables long distances with the high cost of gas, and it's not happening here anytime soon.

I try to do what I can. I compost my vegetable/fruit scraps in the garden, I use shredded paper in the compost as well. I try to buy things only in containers I can recycle. The rest I transport 150 miles away when I just happen to be going to this other city to visit family anyway (two types of plastic, corrugated cardboard and aluminum-- they don't do glass).

Seattle's doing the right thing. Remember this is only the city, private citizens can still go out and buy bottled water if they want to. It saves tax payers money, and if there's no real difference between bottled water and city municipal water, it's a waste. It's not just a landfill issue, even you you recylce, there's cost of transporting the product (more than ever with the high fuel costs) plus the manufacture of the plastic bottles themselves, and the cost of transporting the recyclable product as well.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 03/22/2008

Why not just take the recyclable stuff back to the store that sold it to you? Let them send it back to the vendor who brought it to them. The best solution, though, is just don't buy this crap. My wife is a bottled water freak and buys it by the gallon. I recently started "spiking" her bottled water with tap water and she can't tell the difference. Yet, if I ask her to sip tap water, you get this "screwed up face, YUK response...)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 03/23/2008

Plastic was developed by the oil industry and pushed on us. So were the plastic bags. They are a long term negative on the economy and environment. I have no idea why people who want water cannot put it into a glass or other container and use it. When plastic gets hot, toxins leech into the water-something oil companies forget to tell you. There is water lost just trying to put it into the bottle. What's wrong with the tap?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 03/23/2008

Did anyone see Colbert last night regarding this kind of stuff?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 03/21/2008

Good for Seattle...I've always thought that bottled water was one of the biggest scams ever perpetuated on the American public.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 03/21/2008

Somehow you still believe this in light of Erin Brokavich and panoply of prescription meds in the drinking water? Talk about the "biggest" scam. You're the biggest sucker.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 03/22/2008

Um, most bottled water is just city tap water. You're paying someone to open the tap and put it in a bottle for you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 03/22/2008

For all of us conusmers - a good water filter like "Pur" can reduce all the carbon emissions and landfill from making all those (even if recycled - which most of them aren't, cuz most people just toss them) plastic bottles. Just buy one plastic bottle and fill it with your own filtered water- it's probably purer than most of the brand names, and a lot cheaper.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 03/20/2008

NOW WAIT ONE BOTTLED WATER MINUTE! How dare these cities allow the public to be 1. nickled, dimed out of something essential for life, by the corporate robber barons who are pushing the 2. eco-collapse scenario as a cheap excuse for bying up water rights world wide. Don't belive me? See the film "The Corporation". P.s various hormone/post pharma waste can be remove before reintroduction back into receiving waters but....then that means that money currently being stolen would actually have to be invested in public infrastructure...Yikes!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 03/20/2008

Completely misleading title.

HuffPo denigrates its own credibility with this sort of thing.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 03/20/2008

I knew immediately this would be another misleading title because I figured Seattle didn't really ban all bottled water. That's what Huff po does now to hook people in, I guess they figure the real news isn't good enough. Tabloid journalism.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 03/21/2008

Agree. They did not ban the sale of bottled water. The city stopped buying it. Outrageous. Biiiiig difference.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 03/21/2008

Bottled water is a convenience, not any different than other water right out of the tap. Only in America could the marketeers be so brilliant as to get people to pay their money (this from the "I'm so broke" crowd) for water, but then again we bought pet rocks, jeans with holes already in them, and $200/pair tennis shoes. Too damn funny, but how is the average American family supposed to afford to get by? How?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 03/20/2008

It isn't just America. The first bottled water I ever drank was in Europe. Same with thd fashion clothes and designer food. People will buy what they want. Check out Spitzer shelling out $4300 for a piece of tail?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 03/23/2008

I do agree with most of your comments. I never drink bottled water. I drink tap water. This country has so much wealth when we spend billions of dollars on bottled water when tap water is essentially free.

Even poor people like the Katrina homeless get bottled water. If I was in charge of the food stamp program, I would ban bottled water being purchased with food stamps. Yesterday I was in Walmart with my wife who drinks nothing but bottled water and they were giving a free gallon of filtered water. My wife took it (sometimes I wonder if she was take a free dog turd). I was next and he asked me and I said no. He looked at me like I was crazy that I didn't want a free gallon. My wife probably gives the dogs bottled water like the dogs know any difference.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 03/22/2008

HAHAHAHA So true. The first time I saw "bottle water" for sale I laughed and thought only a moonbat Liberal would be dumb enough to buy what is free.....but then I know Liberals and their desperate desire to "hip".

The next moonbat Liberal product will be "Canned Carbon-free Air" they can buy with "designer" coverings. It will be a hoot watching them make fools out of themselves AGAIN.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 AM on 03/21/2008

Yes, and apparently the tap water makes normal liberals into "moonbats" due to the cornecoppia of prescription meds in the tap water.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 03/22/2008

Of course only 'moonbat liberals' buy bottled water. Everyone knows that. Or at least, you do -- everyone else knows otherwise.

You are a dolt.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 03/21/2008

well meant, the pollution caused by plastic bottles is insane. But I can't help feel this is a white collar measure. Laborers, construction workers, truck drivers, we have no water coolers, and we need to drink water too. This measure leaves us either dehydrated, or poisoned by the fluoride and god knows what else in our tab water.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 03/20/2008

What is the problem with bottled water? A few facts from the files of a science teacher.

Is the water in a bottle really healthier to drink?

40% of bottled water comes from city taps. Bottled water is held to less strict standards than tapwater. (Seattle Times 3/20/05) Tap water from public water systems is regulated by the US Environmental Protection Agency which requires public systems to test often for 96 contaminants and publish the results. A four-year study of samples of bottled water found that one out of 5 bottles had chemicals that cause nerve damage and cancer and one out of 3 had arsenic or E.Coli contamination. Plastic toxicity is also a concern.
Bottled water is regulated by the Food & Drug Administration which requires only some of the same tests and not so often. (New York Times 8/18/2007)

Where do we get the idea that bottled water is better for us?
Fortune Magazine called water the "best investment sector for the century." (Seattle Times 3/20/05)
Coca Cola Co. has a 36% share of the $106 billion-a-year U.S. nonalcoholic ready-to-drink beverage business. (See Wall St Journal 8/30/07)

Is bottled water a responsible choice?
Water is increasingly scarce. In the US, disputes about water supplies pit farmers against fishermen, developers against endangered species, farmers against suburbs.
Bottled water is not efficient. It takes much more water to make bottled water than it delivers. To manufacture each kilogram of PET plastic (polyethelyne terephthalate) about 17 kilograms of water are required.
Worldwide, 1.1 billion people worldwide do not have access to safe drinking water. (WSt J 6/6/07) Twice that many do not have basic sanitation. 1.8 million people, mostly young children, die each year from diseases related to unclean water. Estimates of water supplies worldwide project that by 2025 demand for water will exceed supply by 56% (New Yorker 4/8/2002)
Bottled water also contributes to diminishing water supplies by adding to global warming which increases droughts because it electricity from coal, or natural gas and gasoline are used to manufacture, transport and sell the bottles. Every gallon of gasoline that is burned puts more than a gallon of carbon dioxide into the air; and coal is even worse.

Does recycling the empties make it better?
Sure, it"s more responsible to try to keep the plastic out of landfills and use it to make shoe soles or whatever. However, recycling does not actually save energy required to make new bottles as less than 5% of current bottles are made from recycled materials. Nationally now, 23% of PET bottles are recycled, a figure that is helped by the fact that 6 states, including California, have deposit laws. (Wall St Journal 8/30/2007)

Anything else??
Yes. In the US, access to clean water is something we take for granted. Do we really want to see that changed? It takes money to keep our underground water systems in great shape. If too many people start using bottled water, perhaps the political support for that process will diminish. We do not need two water streams in our country, one for rich and another for the rest of us. The bottling industry advertises and makes their drinks seem cleaner than tap water, even though the opposite is true. If we buy into that, and neglect our public system, we are giving up a human right and subjecting ourselves to corporate whims. NYTimes 8/18/2007)
Seem far fetched?
Ask the people of Cochabamba, Bolivia, and Lima, and Rio de Janeiro, and in Indonesia, Pakistan, India, South Africa, Poland and Hungary where corporations have tried to buy up water supplies and charge people for the water that had always been free. In some of those places public protest stopped the privatization process, in other areas, the fight is being waged. Ask the family of Victor Hugo Daza, a seventeen-year student in Cochabamba killed by the army during protests over a Bechtel subsidiary that paid a local government for water rights and then started charging for water that had always been free. (New Yorker 4/8/2002)
When water supplies are turned over to private corporations, the public loses its democratic right to control a public resource. The public loses access to information about water quality and supply. The public is left, as it were, high and dry.
Access to clean water is a human right, not a commodity to be bought and sold for profit.

Corporate Accountability International is working on this issue. You can find them at: http://www.stopcorporateabusenow.org/campaign/think_outside_the_bottle_



favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 03/20/2008

A great post. Thanks!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 03/21/2008

Well, you folks might consider buying thermos jugs. Since when don't work sites have drinking water available? They did when I worked in construction. Privatization of public resources has to stop. I have been sickened for 2 decades watching people walk around with their silly little plastic water bottles filled with expensive store-bought water ... while perfectly good city water was readily available to them. Most of them had no clue that their fancy water probably came from the public system somewhere, anyway.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 03/20/2008

Fill up a large bottle at home and bring with you. I see these guys carrying big Igloo coolers. They can keep their water in these.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 03/20/2008

By a water filter for your faucet or by a PUR or Britta Pitcher and filter your own water. I stopped buying bottled water a long time ago, first because of the pollution caused and second because most of the water being sold is questionable as to its purity.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 03/20/2008

Maybe if i take a shot of mood-stabilizer/viagra water I'll quit reading into Bill Clinton's 2000
China Trade deal. Or the folks in PA could import some WA water. There we go! Eat some
lead-paint,drink some tap water, work for Megalomart and forget about APEC!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 03/20/2008

Yeah... Seattle has a great water supply if you like the taste of sulfur and the smell of rotten eggs

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 03/20/2008

Seattle did NOT ban the SALE of bottled water!

Why hasn't this headline been corrected by now?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 03/20/2008

The headline writers here on the HuffPost seem to be intentionally creating misleading -- and therefore inflammatory -- headlines. Like a cheap tabloid. It's very disappointing, and makes me want to go elsewhere for my daily fix.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 03/20/2008

I have to agree. This is the sort of disinformation that got us into trouble in the first place.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 03/21/2008

Huffpo is like all the rest of them - they want to entice you to read the story - sometimes its a good thing.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 03/20/2008

I also get really annoyed by the recent (yes, recent) dramatic increase in teaser titles, it's never been so bad. Is this related to the decline in education? Example of 'hook': "Bill Clinton embarrasses Chinese Diplomat" but under that as a hyperlink to the story is the subtitle "What did he say?" ... now this is more than a style change or an old fashioned hook .... this is media now wording it in my "voice" and like I really am an idiot.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 03/21/2008

If people are really that afraid of municipal water, why not buy a Brita filter? Why must they instead use fossil fuels to create plastic and ship bottles and then fill up landfills?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 03/20/2008

Your suggestion is "way and by-far" toooooooooooooooooooooooo logical, and simplistic for the great American public to understand. You'd never make a successful politician. . . (think how lucky you are. . . LOL).


Kinda like, . . ."if you are against ABORTIONS, don't have one".

Hope not to offend you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 03/22/2008

because they work outdoors maybe, you cubicled-in knucklehead

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 03/20/2008

Geesh, have you heard of a reusable water bottle? Many cities have water better than what's in a bottle. S.F gets its water from Yosemite. Somehow the human race has survived for centuries without bottled water and now we can't live without it. Let's all have a protest march, and don't forget to bring your Evian!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 03/20/2008