Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., announces at a news conference in Omaha, Neb., in this Sept. 10, 2007 file photo. U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel writes in a new book that the United States needs independent leadership and possibly another political party, while suggesting the war in Iraq might be remembered as one of the five biggest blunders in history. (AP Photo/Nati Harnik, File)

Hagel: US May Need New Political Party

ANNA JO BRATTON | March 20, 2008 06:17 AM EST | AP

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OMAHA, Neb. — U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel writes in a new book that the United States needs independent leadership and possibly another political party, while suggesting the Iraq war might be remembered as one of the five biggest blunders in history.

"In the current impasse, an independent candidate for the presidency, or a bipartisan unity ticket ... could be appealing to Americans," Hagel writes in "America: Our Next Chapter," due in stores Tuesday. The Associated Press obtained an advance copy.

The Nebraska Republican, who announced last year he wouldn't seek a third term or the GOP presidential nomination, had been widely mentioned as a running mate on an independent ticket with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Bloomberg said last month he wouldn't run.

Hagel said that despite holding one of the Senate's strongest records of support for President Bush, his standing as a Republican has been called into question because of his opposition to what he deems "a reckless foreign policy ... that is divorced from a strategic context."

Hagel, who's been a harsh critic of the war since 2003, writes that the invasion of Iraq was "the triumph of the so-called neoconservative ideology, as well as Bush administration arrogance and incompetence."

The Vietnam veteran said he had hoped the lessons from that war would give the nation's leaders perspective before troops were sent to Iraq.

"To the astonishment of those of us who lived through the agony of Vietnam, these lessons were ignored in the run-up to the Iraq War," he writes.

Hagel said Vice President Dick Cheney and others "cherry-picked intelligence" and used fear to intensify "war sloganeering."

During visits to the Middle East in December 2002, Hagel said, Israel's top security officials asked, "Do you really understand what you are getting yourselves into?"

Hagel said Bush personally assured him that he would exhaust diplomatic avenues before committing troops to Iraq. The senator said he voted for the war resolution based on those assurances, but regrets the vote because it's now clear that lawmakers were presented with lies and wishful thinking.

Last year, Hagel was the only member of his party on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to support a nonbinding measure critical of Bush's decision to dispatch an additional 30,000 troops to Iraq.

"There is no strategy. This is a pingpong game with American lives," Hagel said at the time.

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Wow I'm in total agreement with a 'Red' ???
This must be a New Beginning for Our Country, New Millenia New Party(ies)
As a Michigander I now realize the'Dems' can not be trusted- they've screwed Us for Decades!
I'm with you on this one- Would love to see you endorse Obama when the Corp's finally PUSH him out .
It's so obvious tha tHillary & Mac work for the Same Entities as W. & Dick - it's ALMOST funny to watch- either one will be a win for the Inc's and their Foreign Sponsors.
In fact Obama should step out of this STAGED election and go Independent, or even start a new Party- Patriots will follow. WE've seen the light. glad to see we are not as Divided as they want US to think!
Your Love of this Country and It's Principles is not only appreciated but Commended. Stick around We Have A country to Rebuild!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 03/23/2008
- Sylmason I'm a Fan of Sylmason 9 fans permalink
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Thank God there's at least one among you. Cudos Chuck...........you should take McCain's place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 03/23/2008
- Slagfish I'm a Fan of Slagfish 3 fans permalink

Hagel is on to something with this another party idea. Both Political parties are wholly owned subsidiaries of corporate America. I think the people would be eager to support a party that actually represented them rather than the corporations. An idea whose time has come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 03/23/2008
- LBKN I'm a Fan of LBKN 2 fans permalink

There is only one way to create a viable third party... and it has to be to walk-into the White House on the first run...

There will be no chance to build from bottom-up.

There is only one circumstance that would have the ability to reach so high on the first run...

Gore/Bloomberg... financing their own campaign as "Independents"... and I would only recommend this course of action if Hillary succeeds in stealing the nomination from Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 03/22/2008
- creekside I'm a Fan of creekside 2 fans permalink

The current two party system is like driving in heavy traffic on a two lane highway. If there are obstacles in either lane the progress of both lanes suffer. When there are three lanes, suddenly traffic moves much better.

The main obstacle to a real three party system is campaign financing. After amassing a set number of signatures on a petition each candidate should be given a set amount of public funding. NO PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS ALLOWED. NO USE OF PERSONAL FUNDS ALLOWED. All media should give each candidate a predetermined quantity of equal time for advertising as a precondition of their FCC license. No outside "swiftboat" type of advertising by third party groups allowed.

The problem is that the same people who need to legislate these rules into existence would be gone in the next election cycle and they know it. Just think how much more time our elected officials would have to actually attend to the peoples business if they didn't need to spend so much time fundraising.

How can we make this happen?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/22/2008
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 105 fans permalink

amen to the third party. neither the demos or the repubs will change the direction of this country. those within the current system have no incentive to change the system. must be someone outside the existing system. simple 101 leadership principles.

it will take years of corp fascism before americans will heed jefferson's advice. americans want to take the easy way out and send a person to the white house and clean this mess up. wont happen.

ike warned us but no one listened. now we pay the price for not listening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 03/22/2008

I haven't read the book, but I wonder what Hagel's five biggest blunders are. In terms of military adventures and their effect on the warring country, I would guess:

1 Hitler invading Russia.
2. The US invading Iraq (#2 only because we don't know the final outcome yet).
3 Napoleon invading Russia.
What are the others?

America likes to see itself as #1. It's good to know that there are several ways to achieve that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 03/22/2008

Yes, and if the Democrats are too inept to make Mr. Obama their nominee, I'd suggest he create an Independent party quickly. Millions of people will follow him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 03/21/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 145 fans permalink

Hagel is that rare Republican with political courage and foresight. The rest are blind lemmings. God speed, Senator Hagel! The senate is losing a good man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/21/2008
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Hagel makes a better Democrat than Hillary. At least Hagel is willing to take on the neocon view. Hillary is deceiving Americans about the real reason why she did not read the NEI report and why she supported the Iraq War. Hillary's campaign is being propped up by the neocons because they trust her with the Bush/Cheney Legacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 03/22/2008
- Azor I'm a Fan of Azor permalink

I do not know about a better democrat, but most certainly a more honest and trustworthy politician. Actually a more honest, trustworthy and simply decent human being, which should be a prerequisite for a politician, but as we all know in 95% of the cases it is not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 03/22/2008
- LBKN I'm a Fan of LBKN 2 fans permalink

Hagel is the purveyor of "Ear Candy"... and exhibits the most inept liability of Republicanism... which BTW he shares with McCain... they make public statements in opposition to the party's agenda... but vote "lock-step" with the party.

I give no quarter to anyone voting for party over principle or personal belief.

Hagel is a sheep... like all but Chafe... and Chafe was forced to "Independent" status...' cause he wouldn't tow the line. If you ask... I bet Chuck would still say he's a Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 03/22/2008
- Azor I'm a Fan of Azor permalink

Yes, as far as I know Hagel sttll calls himseld a republican, but do you know anything about his votes on war and security related issues over the last year plus? And don't you think that these votes and his overall positions have something to do with the fact that he is not running for reelection? There are many ways to force somebody out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 03/23/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 56 fans permalink
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I am pretty sure that draft-dodger Bush got a different message from Viet Nam than war hero Hagel. What makes his stomach ache is that he has swallowed too much Republican kool aid over the years. Perhaps he should join the Obama movement to help heal his tortured soul. I am sure that he has much to regret, but he can move forward with a new life as a constructive politician in a new movement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 03/21/2008

Good accurate post......­..........­.........R­IGHT ON!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 03/22/2008

No doubt Hagel needs another Party...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 03/21/2008
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First, our national bus is already off the cliff and in midair. Second to be worth while that candidate would have to address voters ,bottom up, not top down. The public has been ignored, pandered to, patronized. And the results of 40 yrs of that, have led to this mess we're in.

I believe in Barack Obama, he displays the intelligence and strength of character, to unite us,and appeal to our better angels, not divide.....Maybe he can restore the reverence for the presidency last held when Kennedy was alive. If we our entering serious times we need a president this country can trust and believe in much as the sort leadership FDR gave during the depression and war. I just don't see that in the other candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 03/21/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 56 fans permalink
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By Jove! I think you have it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 03/21/2008

I agree with Sen. Hagel about his assessment of and continued opposition to the Iraq war, and I also agree with the need for a new party. However, I do not think one party can unify all "Independents".

Many of the Independents I know have views incompatible with each other. Some are socially conservative, fiscally conservative, but anti-war. Some are socially liberal, fiscally conservative, anti-war. Some are socially middle-of-the-road, anti-any-tax, anti-government.

There is probably room for two or three new parties out there that could collect the support of different groups of these people.

The question is -- do the negatives of the party system outweigh the positives? Could more be accomplished by creating caucuses around certain issues or stances, rather than trying to shoehorn incompatible views under one tent? The No-party system... Just candidates and a series of run-off elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 03/21/2008
- Azor I'm a Fan of Azor permalink

Interesting how many people here are suggesting or at least mentioning an Obama/Hagel ticket. There can be some major hurdles, but I find the idea intriguing to say the least.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 03/21/2008

The Dems have allowed the Repubs to steal the last two elections. That sure will teach the Repubs a lessons! There's no way they will try to do that a third time!

After the Dems lose in 2008, and after 8 years of giving Bush everything he could ever want, there will be a giant sucking sound as millions of people dump the Dems. There are also so many people unhappy with the Repubs, that this will be the very best time in several generations to boost a third party to mainstream status. It won't be aq brand new party, it will probably be the Green party will finally break through. Look for a Green president, (not Nader), in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 03/21/2008

Wipe your mouth ang give your A_hole a chance

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 03/22/2008

BITABING- FOTFLMAO!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 03/22/2008
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