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McCain Recycles 2001 Pro-War Column For 2008 Speech

McCain Recycles 2001 Pro-War Column For 2008 Speech

March 26, 2008 12:24 PM



Yes, you have heard this speech before.

On Wednesday, Sen. John McCain delivered a "major" foreign policy address, in which, as part of his defense for a continued presence of U.S troops in Iraq, he positioned himself as a "realistic idealist," someone who is acutely aware of the cost of war.

"The lives of a nation's finest patriots are sacrificed. Innocent people suffer and die," McCain told the Los Angeles World Affairs Council. "Commerce is disrupted; economies are damaged; strategic interests shielded by years of patient statecraft are endangered as the exigencies of war and diplomacy conflict. Not the valor with which it is fought nor the nobility of the cause it serves, can glorify war. Whatever gains are secured, it is loss the veteran remembers most keenly. Only a fool or a fraud sentimentalizes the merciless reality of war. However heady the appeal of a call to arms, however just the cause, we should still shed a tear for all that is lost when war claims its wages from us... we cannot wish the war to be a better place."

It is a repackaged graph.

Six-and-a-half years earlier, McCain used the almost the exact same language to drum up popular support for military action in the greater war on terror.

"War is a miserable business," the Arizona Senator wrote in a Wall Street Journal oped in October 2001. "The lives of a nation's finest patriots are sacrificed. Innocent people suffer and die. Commerce is disrupted, economies are damaged. Strategic interests shielded by years of patient statecraft are endangered as the exigencies of war and diplomacy conflict. However heady the appeal of a call to arms, however just the cause, we should still shed a tear for all that will be lost when war claims its wages from us. Shed a tear, and then get on with the business of killing our enemies as quickly as we can, and as ruthlessly as we must. There is no avoiding the war we are in today, any more than we could have avoided world war after our fleet was bombed at Pearl Harbor.... War is a miserable business. Let's get on with it."

To be sure, politicians are free and often eager to use old lines, especially those they think are persuasive. What these two, nearly identical, remarks suggest is that McCain's view of combat -- and, perhaps more importantly, its human costs -- has not really changed throughout the course of war. That is, despite five years of military operations in Iraq and more than 4,000 troop deaths, he still sees the "lives lost" and the "merciless realities" as necessary sacrifices to make.

It is a position that undoubtedly remains popular with a great number of primarily conservative voters. But it is also a sign of an unbending, almost stubborn, nature on the war that McCain's critics will certainly hold over his head during the presidential campaign.


 

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favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 03/29/2008

What makes the fact that this was a recycled speech all the more frightening in the context of McCain the potential President is his incompetence at reading it. It was bad enough when he might have had the excuse that it was a newly written speech that he had not had time to learn without stumbling; that even gave it a patina of versimilitude; the reluctant leader, taking on the challenge because no one else is capable of the task but longing to return to the homestead before planting time. Now we learn that it is a speech he has had the opportunity to practice for years. Is this just his attempt to channel Ronnie? Will he say to Hillarack "There you go again?"

In a perfect world, Hillary and Barack would sit down and agree to one someone that either of them would have in their cabinet; Vice President would be the best, but I'm not that naive. Perhaps Al Gore would agree to serve as Energy Secretary. The point is that with an agreed choice for a critical post, they would have someone who could go out and promote the party rather than a candidate, thus allowing this wonderful spectacle that has not been equalled since Jesse Ventura ran for office to continue without continuing to put the victory in jeapordy by falsely equating the contest with the competence of the contestants....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 03/27/2008

"Only a fool or a fraud sentimentalizes the merciless reality of war."

Sound like Bush all right.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 03/27/2008

The brilliant military strategist thinks that Shia Iran is responsible for Sunni al Qaeda activities.
If Sen. McCain can't even keep Shia and Sunni straight, what hope does he have for making any sense whatsoever in our foreign policy affairs? It scares the hell out of me.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 03/27/2008

and yet the media keeps propagating the myth that this superstitious, shoot-first-ask-questions-later, lobby controlled, doddering mistake is knowledgeable on foreign affairs. oy kavult!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 03/27/2008

missing here is mccain's quoting of Osama Bin Laden, that Iraq will be the place from which they will achieve their goals (something like that anyway). What's funny is that he accepts bin laden's words as truthful while presumably (from their behavior) rejecting other prophecies from him, such as we will financially cripple you in afghanistan as we did the soviets. I think the Marx Brothers could do a better job running things, and we could have at least had a laugh or two, an intentional laugh or two that is.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 AM on 03/27/2008

All that foreign affairs experience and a missed opportunity. He could have simply repurposed something that the Governor of Massachusetts said in a speech?

You should probably stick with pitching him as too old to be President.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 03/27/2008

Look when your 72 it's difficult to remember things, like who's fighting who in Iraq, and what to write down for a speech, so he went to his file cabinet and pulled out one of those oldies but goodies.
I heard if he wins he's ordering that phonographs be brought back into the WH because when asked if he used a blackberry he said yes every morning on my toast!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 03/26/2008

his age wouldn't be a problem if at least he'd attained wisdom in it.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 AM on 03/27/2008

At 70 years old, you better believe McCain's got a deep rustle bag. Not a lot of new ideas in there on Irag or the economy. This type of tired presentation really reflects poorly on his staff and shows a stubbornness that can easily be exposed in a change election. He needs new counsel and fresh input. Even if he only talks to lobbyists, it's got to be better advice than what he is getting from his secretary of defense-in-waiting Lieberman and his valet Lindsey Graham.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 03/26/2008

Saint John the somnabulist, ready to preen in the sun and cast his righteous shadow on the
caskets of the young.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 03/26/2008

They still call him the Straight Talk Express, unbelievable.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 03/26/2008
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Well, war IS a miserable business. Always has been, always will be, and he and and his family know this because of firsthand experience. Do you think he should have changed his viewpoint on this in the last few years? Here's another excerpt from today's speech:

"When I was five years old, a car pulled up in front of our house in New London, Connecticut, and a Navy officer rolled down the window, and shouted at my father that the Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. My father immediately left for the submarine base where he was stationed. I rarely saw him again for four years. My grandfather, who commanded the fast carrier task force under Admiral Halsey, came home from the war exhausted from the burdens he had borne, and died the next day. In Vietnam, where I formed the closest friendships of my life, some of those friends never came home to the country they loved so well. I detest war. It might not be the worst thing to befall human beings, but it is wretched beyond all description."

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 03/26/2008

* will the real john McCain please stand up
Sen. John McCain - October 19, 1993

The criteria should be to bring them home as rapidly and safely as possible, an evolution which I think could be completed in a matter of weeks.
Our continued military presence in Somalia allows another situation to arise which could then lead to the wounding, killing or capture of American fighting men and women. We should do all in our power to avoid that.
I listened carefully to the President's remarks In fact, his remarks have persuaded me more profoundly that we should leave and leave soon.
What is the criteria and what should be the criteria is our immediate, orderly withdrawal from Somalia. And if we do not do that and other Americans die, other Americans are wounded, other Americans are captured because we stay too long--longer than necessary--then I would say that the responsibilities for that lie with the Congress of the United States who did not exercise their authority under the Constitution of the United States and mandate that they be brought home quickly and safely as possible. . .

I can tell you what will erode our prestige. I can tell you what will hurt our viability as the world's superpower, and that is if we enmesh ourselves in a drawn-out situation which entails the loss of American lives,

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 03/26/2008

McCain? Is he still alive?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 03/26/2008

Yes and if this old man is elected we will hear and see the same old lies, and flip flopping for the next 4 years while the country falls deeper and deeper into disrepair while McCain gets closer to stepping on that banana peal.

I wonder if the ghost of George Washington is sitting somewhere sobbing.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 03/26/2008

The way the Democrats are imploding - if the Democrats are not careful - McCain will be able to take the rest of the year off - still win - and be the next President.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 03/26/2008

have you ever heard of the story of the tortoise and the hare? Slow and steady wins the race. The whole country knows that a democrat is taking office this year, so why not take our time and figure out which of the candidates would be the best outfitted for the job at hand?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 03/27/2008

If they would stop trying to convince people that their opinion may be right or wrong about the war, and focus on the war itself, and a strategic exit that doesn't leave us vulnerable, we would really be going somewhere. It's almost like he's telling us, "How dare you question how I plan to spend billions of your tax dollars?"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 03/26/2008

Doubly recycled:

http://www.command-post.org/2004/2_archives/2004_08.html

McCain RNC speech, 2004

"War is an awful business. The lives of a nation"s finest patriots are sacrificed. Innocent people suffer. Commerce is disrupted, economies are damaged. Strategic interests shielded by years of statecraft are endangered as the demands of war and diplomacy conflict.
However just the cause, we should shed a tear for all that is lost when war claims its wages from us. But there is no avoiding this war. We tried that, and our reluctance cost us dearly. And while this
war has many components, we can"t make victory on the battlefield harder to achieve so that our diplomacy is easier to conduct."

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 03/26/2008

It is simply PATHETIC that McCain is a nominee for president. The Republican Party is more than desperate. WHEN is our media going to give this candidate a review equal to those of his opponents?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 03/26/2008

I can't believe anyone under the age of 75 would vote for this played out worn out flip flopper.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 03/26/2008

You are accusing him of consistency?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 03/26/2008

Perry...I agree. That was the first thing that struck me. I happen to think his stand is wrong, but we cannot condemn the man both for flip-flopping and for consistency.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 03/26/2008

He has speeches you can Xerox.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 03/26/2008

The Democrats need to beat him over the head with this speech from now until November.

Constantly, repeatedly, ceaselessly.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 03/26/2008

Mr. McCain, just how long are we to stay in Iraq to keep the ethnic factions from killing each other while they dither and refuse to take any significant steps toward political reconciliation? Even General Petraeus concedes there is no military solution to this conflict. You and your pal George told us the purpose of the surge was to give the Iraqis breathing room while they take control of their government. Our soldiers gave them that opportunity, and the Iraqis squandered it. The only durable political alliance that has been formed during that time is not among Sunnis, Kurds and Shia, but between the Maleki government and Iran. (Holy unintended consequences, Batman!) We have done all we are morally obligated to do. Any civil blood-letting that follows our withdrawal is a stain on Iraq, not on the U.S.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 03/26/2008

He probably was spouting this mantra while he was entertaining Vicki Iseman

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 03/26/2008

Typical Hufftard - never restort to facts when you can toss in some irrelevent cheap personal sliming.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 03/26/2008

He's a retread.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 03/26/2008

Americans are scared shitless of the left, but war mongering, treasury looting, torturing , bible thumping rapturists are so comforting, no wonder we are fucked.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 03/26/2008
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