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Huffington Post   |  Verena von Pfetten
First Posted: 03-31-08 11:47 AM   |   Updated: 04- 8-08 05:12 AM

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Thomas Beattie

***New: Watch Thomas on Oprah here***

Update:
Oprah has landed an interview with Thomas Beatie, the world's first pregnant man, to air on Thursday's show. People magazine will also be featuring an interview with Thomas Beatie in next week's issue. Watch the teaser for Oprah's interview with him here:

Check out the recently released photos of Thomas Beatie and his wife Nancy below.

Read more about the photos here and here.


For previous HuffPost coverage of Thomas Beatie, including video, click here.

Some people seem to think that the "world's first pregnant man" is an April Fool's Day hoax. What do you think?

***New: Watch Thomas on Oprah here*** Update: Oprah has landed an interview with Thomas Beatie, the world's first pregnant man, to air on Thursday's show. People magazine will also be featuring an in...
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This must be expressed, for heaven’s sake, even if only by me: “Enough Is Enough”

Why does Huffington even choose to give credence to such a story?

Society has really hit the bottom of the cesspool by lauding a story about such “people. “ Winfrey could have hosted an articulate conversation about race, history, and higher issues of culture on such a notable historical remembrance today (MLK). Instead, she uses her supposed position by turning her TV spot into a freak show forum for social rejects and perversions.

Instead of being enlightened and magnanimous enough to schedule a polite conversation with BOTH Hillary and Obama – or even McCain too - about REAL issues and thoughts on dates like this with substantive effect, what does she and the media do? They dive into the foul end of the social gene pool by giving more than a second’s thought to such “people” and stories which would otherwise be rightfully relegated to the likes of the Enquirer and their sort.

I say to all that Winfrey is now obviously “Queen of the profane, diluted, and just plain pathetic.” Her and those who think her opinions and political tastes matter are equally culpable.

Where’s the fundamental morality, standards, social morays - and just plain class - in this world anymore, and who is standing up for better values? I ask that more in the secular sense than religious sense.

Please America and HuggingtonPost, raise your standards. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 04/05/2008

Sam Thornton from page 1, That was too funny. On a serious note, For this woman to actually think SHE is a man is ridiculous. I've been reading some of this debate and I think this is just crazy. Has anyone thought about the baby. I truly worry how she's gonna turn out? Whats gonna happen when she finds out her "DAD" is really her "MOM". I bet she won't be "DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL" then. Do you people who support this have parents that's been "operated" on? If so, guess what? This"MAN" is probably the result of those kind of parents. Talk about messing a childs head up. There is nothing normal about this except that it is a "WOMAN" who got pregnant.

I don't understand this transgender crap. What happened to just being gay. Which isn't right either but I'm not discussing that. To think that you are born a man but in a womans body or vice versa? Well, to me thats insane. I'm no angel but don't be using GOD as an excuse for this. Cause if you know anything about HIM you know he's the only perfect being and HE created people in his eyes. I'm pretty sure HE knows what he's doing and if your born a MAN or WOMAN, that's the way its suppose to be. If you have a problem believing this just remember sickos, It was Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve.

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me

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 04/05/2008
- EZKY I'm a Fan of EZKY 2 fans permalink

Oh, man. (hah).

There's a lot of misunderstanding on this board. One thing I should say, as a TS person myself, is that many of us feel the same way about this publicity -- we don't quite get it. On the other hand, imperfect systems are often fixed through publicity. Moral disagreements aside, adequate medical care needs to be available for these situations, and more doctors should be ready. Not providing care won't stop TS people from having their own children (as odd as I personally find it).

Now, as to biology, and the "gays", and all that. Trans issues are not the same as gay issues, and for the most part, how we live in society is what determines our gender, not biology. TS people walk among you, and they are your fellow men and women, and your friends, whether you know it or not. They are not in disguise, they are living honestly.

There's no such thing as a "real" man or woman -- start playing those games and many non-trans people would be thrown to the wolves. Additionally, do you *really* want to draw the line at genitals? If so, then one in every 250 births is neither male nor female-- that's the rate of intersex births. All of this is to say, it is disrespectful to call people words they don't identify with. The only reason to do is because their self definition somehow threatens your own. Why not try separating the two?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 04/04/2008

There may be alot of misunderstanding, but one thing is clear. This person on Oprah is NOT a man. This person was born a WOMAN. You can change all that make them a woman. Take hormones, change the genitals, change their name. They are still a woman. She may no longer look like a woman. I dont know about state laws and how they differ concerning changing a person's gender. Obviously, I have never been confused about my gender so I cannot pretend to know why someone would go through that. In my humble opinion, this is ALL false advertising for the sake of ratings. PREGNANT MAN? Its a headline. PREGNANT TRANSSEXUAL.. doesnt quite have same ring to it eh?
You can do to your body whatever you like, its your right. I do have a problem with the media glorifying this like its a true miracle, when its no more than a populist headline. Not to mention, the damage it will cause to old fashioned, dare I say, family values and traditions. I feel sorry for the child, they are the innocent victim in all this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 04/06/2008

Here's an idea, read the facts before you all spin out of control. Fact 1. Mr. Beatie, while still in possession of his original female reproductive organs, is legally a man. Therefore, their marriage is legal. Fact 2. He stopped taking testosterone two years ago...nothing about his "chemistry" is doing any harm to the baby.

What's with all the weird questions like "breastfeeding?" There are plenty of regular bio-moms who can't breastfeed for a variety of reasons and their babies turn out just fine. That's hardly the point.

These folks look happy and healthy and God willing, their child will be too. Don't hate people...don't hate...there's too much hatred and ignorance in the world as it is.

I wish them all the joy in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 04/04/2008

I have enjoyed reading all the comments, and while I can see how many defend their rights and feel that these people deserve to be unjudged and left alone...we are forgetting that they welcomed and solicited this opportunity to be public.

The truth is, she is not even the first he/she to get pregnant.

While I completely disagree with their lifestyle, if she is going to attempt to live as a man, then why publicize the pregnancy? If you are going to be the childs father, then why stop that from happening by making sure the entire world knows that you are a woman? Live your life as a man, do what you do, and let God be the judge in the end.

I think it is the ultimate sign of bad parenting. They have turned this poor baby girl into an exploit - and she's not even here yet.

But in truth, I feel the entire thing is selfish. If you want to be a man, be one, and take all the previledges - and losses that come with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 04/04/2008
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Amen Someonereadthebible. I absolutely agree with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 04/04/2008

Wow, what an arrogant thing to say. Who do you think you are? You are no one to agree or disagree with anyone's lifestyle. I can't stand you Christians who think you are righteous enough to judge WHO IS & WHO WILL BE A GOOD PARENT! I sincerely hope that you are not a parent & if you are I really feel sorry for your child(ren) for having this B.S. religious mindset instilled in them. Does your God know that your are not using the brain you were blessed with? Go spew your crap on a Christian website, there are many pedophile priests that would love to hear your point of view!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 04/04/2008

The more I hear about this the less I'm impressed and the truth is a man is not having a baby. A woman who lives as a man has become pregnant because she still has the equipment that she was born with regardless of all the surgeries she has had to falcilitate her life as a man. Look, when a man had a sex change to become a woman and then he gets pregnant call me. Or when "Thomas Beatie" grows a penis (a real one) and gets his wife pregnant with sperm he has produced then thats news. But this is media hype so I agree with someonereadthebible but not for any bibical reasons just scientific fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 04/04/2008

Y'all just need to get over it ... "he" is NOT a pregnant male. She is a pregnant female who has had surgery and takes hormones. Period.
~LCC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 04/03/2008
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Who got "him" pregnant? If that's a genuine woman in the photo with him, then she couldn't have impregnated him.
Did "he" cheat on her with a sperm-carrying man?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 04/02/2008

Have you ever heard of artificial insemination?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 04/02/2008

Ridiculous. Why then have surgery to be a "man"? Why didn't the woman (real?) get impregnated. Bet they did all this whatever/however just for publicity. Maybe they can live off of whatever the Big O paid them and then subsequent fees. Bah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 04/06/2008

I realize that it is very easy these days to come across as intolerant, and so we try to accomodate all beliefs and values in order to seem liberal. Nonetheless, what we should all strive to tolerate, even when it does not suit our ideologies or agendas, is truth. It is true that this individual is female. It is also true that she has opted to live as a male. For most, this is not normal, but people are constructing their own norms everyday, and are free to do so. Though it is not my norm, I do not have the right to negate someone elses lived experience. Likewise, I don't expect to be considered intolerant because normal for me is heterosexual. Nor do I expect that I should have to ignore that fact that this individual is a woman, simply because she inherently feels she is a man. I can inherently feel that I was meant to be white, bleach myself to a tawny beige and otherwise alter my life to create a bubble in which I can live out that desire. However, to everyone who has eyes to see, I'll still be black.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 04/02/2008
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This is not about desire. While I am not familiar with the details of this person's life, and so cannot comment here, the fact is that gender and orientation are defined in the brain as well as in the genitalia. And, depending what happens in the womb, they are not always the same. That's a clinical fact. Life happens, sometimes in unusual ways. But it does.

Whether that applies here, only this person's physicians would know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 04/02/2008

That's fair enough. I certainly don't want to make it seem as though issues of gender are straightforward. I guess my use of the word 'desire' makes it seem as though it is simple. A better way to put it, I hope, would be to say that when we make the sometimes risky and difficult choice to go against societal norms, it is because we 'desire' to live a life that is truthful and normal according to our own predelictions. I did not mean desire in the sense of casual wants or wishes. Life does indeed happen in unusual ways, and sometimes there is a high price tag on creating a space to call one's own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 04/02/2008

See, when you say heterosexuality is normal you're implicitly saying any other sexuality is abnormal. Can't you find room in your "liberal" heart to say something like this instead: heterosexuality is just ONE sexuality amid an array of possible sexualities. Does that somehow demean your heterosexuality? No. Instead, it allows equal expression of every sexuality. However, I can understand how it demeans your heterosexuality if your concept of heterosexuality is directly connected to lording that power of normalcy over others and forcing others to acknowledge your heterosexuality as the normal way to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/02/2008

Oh, get over it. mamanorice wrote the following: ...normal FOR ME is heterosexual." Good grief, is no one allowed to have an opinion anymore? Gotta worry about offending some one else? I have friends of every lifestyle, persuasion, gender, transgender, questioning, confused, celebate, married, single, male, female, ethnicity, and whatever other label you wanna mention so don't even bother saying anything to me about tolerance, diversity, or whatever label you wanna put on anything. I'm open-minded to just about anything short of rape, murder, or other abuse. However, IMO, this is just plain ridiculous, not to mention selfish and ego-driven. Go ahead, I'll duck the sniper fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 04/06/2008

Well, theres goes the neighborhood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 04/01/2008
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I'm stunned by the overwhelmingly negative and judgmental posts about this situation.

Stop taking it so damn personally. This is one couple's situation and it's an interesting story. Your attempts to try to impose your own "values" on the child's upbringing or on what gender pronouns these people should be allowed to use are selfish and stupid. If your world view is really that threatened by a person having a baby, you need some therapy. Or maybe just an updated world view. Their lives have zero impact on yours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 04/01/2008
- SeaBlood I'm a Fan of SeaBlood 10 fans permalink

If the media constantly bombard us with such stories, we have a right to judge the situation as positive or as negative. These trans individuals have the right to use whichever gender pronouns they want for themselves, but we have the right to call a spade a spade if that is what we see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 04/01/2008

Bombard you? Really? One story about a transgendered person on HuffPo is bombardment? Perhaps transgendered people should jsut disappear? Would that accomodate your views better?

Have you considered how gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered and transsexual people are constantly bombarded by heterosexual and gender norms? It's every where, every day.

And no, you do not have the right to "name" or "identify" another person based on your idea of "normal" sexual and gender expression, to force them into your framework of understanding, to invalidate their reality by claiming that you know when a "spade is a spade." It's called domination, it's called prejudice, it's called intolerance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 04/01/2008
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SeaBlood:

As a matter of fact you DO have a right to call people whatever you wish, but that does NOT mean that it is tolerant. You aren't being bombarded, how many trans-stories have you seen in the last year? The last two?

What's more, while you are perfectly within your rights to call this person 'she' and insist, regardless of their self-definition, that you know better than they do what living in their skin is like, I would suggest you look at whatever it is that makes you feel entitled to do so.

Let me rephrase this for you: See how this plays:

"If the media constantly bombard us with such stories about lesbians, we have the right to judge the situation as positive or negative. These lesbian individuals have the right to call what they feel love and call what they do together a relationship, but we have the right to call a spade a spade and say that they do not love one another and that their relationship is not real."

Got it? Good. If you don't, could you please explain the difference? Thanks.

Cheers
LF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 04/01/2008
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Then it should not be turned into a media circus either. And it is being turned into a media circus. I feel sorry for the parents and the child to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 04/01/2008
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If a person is FTM transexual, and still has working female parts, then that person is still a woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 04/01/2008
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sorry, DNA says it's a she, THAT"S NOT A MAN BABY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 04/01/2008

So who donated the sperm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 04/01/2008

This story would have been much more entertaining if Mr. Man's pregnancy came about as a result of porking himself.

Now that would have been news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 04/01/2008
- SeaBlood I'm a Fan of SeaBlood 10 fans permalink

I don't even think that "normal" people should have children. Children have no future on this planet, which, as George Carlin says, will become a steaming pile of turd by the time these children are adult. If you want children, then adopt ! If you can't adopt, then rescue a puppy !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 04/01/2008

I'm with you, SeaBlood, for so many reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 04/01/2008
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