Oil Chiefs Say High Prices Not Our Fault

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H. JOSEF HEBERT | April 1, 2008 11:06 PM EST | AP

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Peter Robertson of Chevron, left, accompanied by John Lowe of ConocoPhillips, center, and Robert Malone of BP America, testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, April 1, 2008, before a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on oil and gasoline prices, oil company profits and the need for renewable fuels. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

WASHINGTON — Don't blame us, oil industry chiefs told a skeptical Congress. Top executives of the country's five biggest oil companies said Tuesday they know record fuel prices are hurting people, but they argued it's not their fault and their huge profits are in line with other industries.

Appearing before a House committee, the executives were pressed to explain why they should continue to get billions of dollars in tax breaks when they made $123 billion last year and motorists are paying record gasoline prices at the pump.

"On April Fool's Day, the biggest joke of all is being played on American families by Big Oil," Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass., said, aiming his remarks at the five executives sitting shoulder-to-shoulder in a congressional hearing room.

"Our earnings, although high in absolute terms, need to be viewed in the context of the scale and cyclical, long-term nature of our industry as well as the huge investment requirements," said J.S. Simon, senior vice president of Exxon Mobil Corp., which made a record $40 billion last year.

"We depend on high earnings during the up cycle to sustain ... investment over the long term, including the down cycles," he continued.

The up cycle has been going on too long, suggested Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo. "The anger level is rising significantly."

Alluding to the fact that Congress often doesn't rate very high in opinion polls, Cleaver told the executives: "Your approval rating is lower than ours, and that means you're down low."

Several lawmakers noted the rising price of gasoline at the pump, now averaging $3.29 a gallon amid talk of $4 a gallon this summer.

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"I heard what you are hearing. Americans are very worried about the rising price of energy," said John Hofmeister, president of Shell Oil Co., echoing remarks by the other four executives including representatives of BP America Inc., Chevron Corp. and ConocoPhillips.

While Democrats hammered the executives for their profits and demanded they do more to develop alternative energy sources such as wind, solar and biofuels, Republican lawmakers called for opening more areas for drilling to boost domestic production of oil and gas.

What would bring lower prices? asked Rep. James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, the committee's ranking Republican

"We need access to all kinds of energy supply," replied Robert Malone, chairman of BP America, adding that 85 percent of the country's coastal waters are off limits to drilling.

But Markey wanted to know why the companies aren't investing more in energy projects other than oil and gas _ or giving up some tax breaks so the money could be directed to promote renewable fuels and conservation and take pressure off oil and gas supplies.

"Why is Exxon Mobil resisting the renewable revolution," asked Markey, noting that the other four companies together have invested $3.5 billion in solar, wind and biodiesel projects.

Exxon is spending $100 million on research into climate change at Stanford University, replied Simon, but current alternative energy technologies "just do not have an appreciable impact" in addressing "the challenge we're trying to meet."

The appearance Tuesday before the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming was not the first time that oil executives had faced the harsh words of a lawmakers frustrated over their inability to do anything about soaring oil and gasoline costs.

In November 2005, executives of the same companies sought to explain high energy costs at a Senate hearing at which Hofmeister emphasized the cyclical nature of his industry. "What goes up almost always comes down," he told the senators on a day when oil cost $60 a barrel.

About six months later, the executives were grilled again on Capitol Hill when a barrel of oil cost $75. As the three-hour House hearing came to a close Tuesday, the price of oil settled at just over $100 a barrel on the New York exchange.

"We face a new reality, volatility, high prices, greater competition for resources," said Peter Robertson, vice president of Chevron Corp., adding that he understands that "Americans see the pain" of $100-a-barrel oil.

Markey challenged the executives to pledge to invest 10 percent of their profits to develop renewable energy and give up $18 billion in tax breaks over 10 years so money could be funneled to support other energy and conservation.

They responded that their companies already are spending on alternative energy projects and argued that new taxes would dampen investment and could lead to even higher prices.

"Imposing punitive taxes on American energy companies, which already pay record taxes, will discourage the sustained investment needed to continue safeguarding U.S. energy security," said Simon. He said over the past five years Exxon Mobil's U.S. tax bill exceeded its U.S. earnings by $19 billion.

Markey was not impressed.

"These companies are defending billions of federal subsidies ... while reaping over a hundred billion dollars in profits in just the last year alone," he said. The companies are reaping "a windfall of revenue" while poor people have to choose between heating and eating because of high energy prices.

Elsewhere on Tuesday, many independent truckers parked their rigs and others slowed to a crawl on highways to protest high fuel prices. The demonstrations were only scattered, but long lines of trucks were moving at about 20 mph on the New Jersey Turnpike, and three drivers were ticketed for impeding traffic on Interstate 55 outside Chicago, driving three abreast at low speeds.

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This is an outrage. They should face a lot more than just "harsh words". These people should be stripped of their wealth. How dare they?! " I hear what you're saying, Americans are concerned about the growing cost of energy," Duh! It is a necessity, and out of that, they gauge us, knowing that you can't live without it, and have to, whether willing or not, to pay the ridiculous prices we have to today. And, how is it not their fault? They can subject themselves to going to a board meeting or two where, being the top executive of the company, decide to lower the prices on their merchandise, but that means they won't be able to afford such luxury lives. They can lower prices, they just don't want to, and if someone doesn't start, it will never be a trend to do so....just sad, so many of us have to scrape the piggy bank to put gas in our car, when it just pads the billions they earn....sickening, and the government sits on their hands, agrees that it is horrible, then punch out to go home and eat with their families, and leave those worries at the office....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 04/03/2008

Frankly, I don't blame them. If you want to see who is really at fault then just look in the mirror. Look around at all your fellow Americans riding around in those SUVs. Look around at mommy driving the kids 8 blocks to school in the SUV. Look around at those people that absolutely will not vote for improving and expanding our mas transit infrastructure.

As far as I'm concerned there should be another $2~$3 per gallon tax on every gallon of gasoline not used to transport goods which would be applied to rebuilding the mass-transit systems and inter-city rail systems that GM (and the oil companies) destroyed after WW-II.

Goods can move BY RAIL a lot cheaper than by truck once the real cost of movement by truck are factored in. Except railroads have skimped on maintenance (show a bigger profit) and roadbeds are falling apart. Improvement in grade crossings are non-existent unless forced down the throat of the railroads.

Our Interstates are falling apart because they were built to handle lighter loads and the trucks are killing them.

We are all at fault but the oil companies could be doing more towards getting us off oil. And maybe they are but until gasoline gets to $7~8/gallon you will still see people driving their SUVs with only the driver in the vehicle. At the same time they will be pissing and moaning about the high cost of gasoline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 04/03/2008

I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around. The US is the largest consumer of petroleum products- we are all used to freedom to choose and the choices we have made have brought the chickens home to roost. Our petroleum appetite has heldped make us the strongest economy in the world, the downside is our policy choices have created a monster. I am reminded of the movie CasaBlanca when Claude Rains is "shocked" to discover gambling in Rick's cabaret.

Suddenly we have a problem. Could closing exploration to offshore California, Offshore Florida the Atlantic, the great lakes and 85% of federal lands have anything to do with that? Could not building a gas pipeline from Alaska where multiple TCFs of gas are stranded or refusing to allow production from Destin Dome (2 TCF of stranded reserves) have anything to do with it? Could it be the fact that the CAFE standards have been held back while folks (like our former VP and Nobel prize winner) build 20,000 plus square houses and fly around in private planes while being "green"?

I would liken our US O&G business to a big old milk cow that everyone has taken for granted for years. Well world demand for milk has caught up with us and we refuse to feed the cow instead we bitch about the price of milk,refuse to feed the cow, beat the cow while being shocked that we "suddenly" have a problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 04/05/2008
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Because Big Oil put all the small Independence's out of business they discover the way to big profits they control all refining of oil in US and as long as they control refining they eliminate the competition and can make the outrageous prices. Why we subsidize some one making these type of profits and don't help company who are developing alternative fuels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 AM on 04/03/2008

Ceasenake, Ramirez, and JohnKemp----defending the indefensible. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that this is caused by a complete lack of intellect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 04/02/2008

I'm not defending anybody - just pointing out that the Gov getting upset about how the poor comsumer is getting shafted by gas prices is kind of ironic since the Gov does more than anyone to push the price up.

Almost as ironic as the Gov doing an inquest on unfair taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 04/03/2008

The oil companies make about 9% profit off of each gallon of gas. Here in CA state and federal taxes equals about 20% of each gallon of gas.

So the Government is questioning it's own huge cash cow as to how they can gouge SO MUCH?

Ironic, isn't it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 04/02/2008
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The oil companies have, for decades, provided our nation with an abundant, high-quality product at the lowest prices in the industrialized world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 04/02/2008
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Drug dealers provide their product free until the customer gets hooked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 04/03/2008

Same old Sh-t.

When Spitzer "successfully" forced the Wall Street barons to pay huge fines because they had "defrauded"(sic) investors, the investors did not get one penny of the fines, the state of New York did.

Same thing here; assume the farcical notion that the oil companies did "gouge;" it was not the givernment that was "gouged;" it was the consumers.

A "windfart tax" should produce funds that would be returned to truckers, airlines, cabbies, etc.

The givernment had nothing to do with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 04/02/2008
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Hell, it ain't my fault, either. Anybody else not at fault? Last one to reply is the culprit...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/02/2008

Funny they had these hearings on April Fool's Day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 04/02/2008

haha yes. Very good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 04/03/2008

The British currently pay $6 / gallon. "Tony Woodley, the general secretary of the Transport and General Workers Union, meanwhile said: "Such levels of excess are, quite frankly, obscene. With our pensions in crisis, these profits are 9.3 billion extra reasons for a windfall tax." (The Independent, April 4, 2005). Yes, it seems high now to Americans but it pales next to the UK. Where's the outrage there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 04/02/2008

Oil is a basically an inelastic product here in the United States which leave us wide open to being taken advantage of, everyone here can whine all they want but it won't do a thing.

Another laughable comment by the clueless congress was why don't they invest more in different types of energy. Oil companies are in the business of OIL . . not wind power . . . not solar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 04/02/2008

Then congress should be investing our taxpayer money in the companies that develop alternative energy. Oil companies are so last century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 04/02/2008

If they are so last century why do we care what they do with prices then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 04/02/2008
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Then lower the price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 04/02/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/02/2008

Supporting Hydrogen as a fuel is completely wrong-minded and amounts to playing into big oil's plans to replace high priced oil with super-high priced hydrogen.

Support whatever you think is right; as for me, I'd focus on other alternatives that have NOTHING to do with the big oil criminals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 04/02/2008

I'm not sure why the receive $18 billion in our tax payer money in the first place. What payback does the US public get for that. Refineries that oil companies continue to collude to shut down, and thereby bottle necking refining capacity. Sending virtually off the oil in the Alaska pipeline overseas instead of to this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 04/02/2008

Well, what do you think will happen if we tax the oil companies more? Do you think they will take the loss of profits or do you think they will pass that cost along to you? Take a guess what that moeny does, it keeps our prices lower than anywhere in the world is what it does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/02/2008

keeping the prices artificially low is what got us addicted. Smoke?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 04/02/2008

And just which oil company do you work for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 04/02/2008

Citizens, educate yourselfs. Go to the U.S. Energy Information Agency website and sign up for the weekly inventory reports. Gasoline and crude inventories are a record highs, demand is down. This is not free market pricing. See the facts for yourselves.

ABOLISH this government of Oil and Weapons barons on April 19th in Philadelphia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/02/2008

"inventories are a record highs, demand is down."

I thought HuffPosters were against free markets?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/02/2008

FLAGGED: GOP-BIG OIL SHILL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/02/2008

Correct; BOfever should be ignored competely, as he is nothing more than an oil company shill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 04/02/2008

April 19th Independence Hall 9am Philadelphia for the Constitutional Convention and to ABOLISH this government of Oil and Weapons Barons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 04/02/2008

If you abolish the Government of oil how do you plan on getting food, water or a job without the ability to have cars/trucks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 04/02/2008

Our government is not ours. It has not and will not represent the will of the People until we ABOLISH it and put in place publicly funded elections only. The present government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Oil and Weapons industry. Open your eyes and do the right thing. Join us in Philly April 19th.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 04/02/2008
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