Obama Raises Twice As Much As Clinton

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JIM KUHNHENN | April 3, 2008 08:56 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama D-Ill., waves during a commercial break during MSNBC's Hardball College Tour hosted by Chris Matthews at West Chester University in West Chester, Pa., Wednesday, April 2, 2008. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama raked in $40 million in March, leaving Hillary Rodham Clinton and her $20 million in the fundraising dust and stuffing his campaign treasury so he can outspend her in the crucial Pennsylvania primary.

His haul in new donations also buttressed his argument to Democratic superdelegates that he has built a vast network of donors and volunteers that they wouldn't want to lose by denying him the nomination.

Obama has attracted nearly 1.3 million donors, largely through the Internet.

He has raised $131 million in just the first three months of this year to $70 million for Clinton. Republican John McCain's campaign has not revealed his March fundraising, but he has been far behind the Democrats, raising less than $23 million in January and February combined.

Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, claimed a double benefit from the Illinois senator's fundraising. "Many of our contributors are volunteering for the campaign, making our campaign the largest grass-roots army in recent political history," he said.

Clinton, speaking to reporters in Burbank, Calif., in the midst of her own fundraising sweep through the state, said: "We're both raising huge amounts of money, and I am thrilled at how effective Democrats have been in raising money the last 15 or so months.

"I will have money to compete. Obviously Sen. Obama has more than enough money to compete. But this is a good news story because it means we are raising it from people committed to our candidacies."

Indeed, the numbers, even for the lagging Clinton, are remarkable. While both raised less than they did in February, the March contributions came during a lull in the presidential contest. There have not been any primaries or contests since March 11, and the most competitive showdowns were March 4 in Texas and Ohio.

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Obama's money has given him a significant spending edge over Clinton in Pennsylvania, where the April 22 primary is the biggest delegate prize left on the Democratic calendar. He has purchased more than $2.7 million in television ads in the state, according to data compiled by TNS Media Intelligence/Campaign Media Analysis Group, which tracks political ads. Clinton has spent almost $900,000 on ads in the state.

His money also has allowed Obama to look over the horizon to May contests in Indiana and North Carolina. He has already spent about $230,000 on ads in each state.

Clinton began airing her first North Carolina ad on Thursday, a 60-second spot that urges viewers to submit questions to her campaign. "Just go to NCAskMe.com, and then I'll be getting back to you here on TV to answer your questions and offer some solutions," Clinton says in the ad.

Obama's financial edge allows him to spend on what many politicians would consider strategic luxuries. He's even running Spanish language ads in Pennsylvania _ not a state with a large Hispanic population.

"If that's not an embarrassment of riches," observed Evan Tracey, the chief operating officer at TNS Media.

Obama outspent the New York senator heading into the March 4 contests in Texas and Ohio. Clinton still won the primaries in both states, though Obama took more delegates in Texas by winning a concurrent caucus there.

Obama's money also provides a separate story line focused on his powerful network of donors. With neither candidate able to win the nomination on the basis of delegates selected by state primaries and caucuses, the burden falls on party officials and elected officials _ the so-called superdelegates _ who are weighing a variety of factors in making their selection.

"His ability to raise more money than Hillary Clinton is part of the handicapping that is going on by superdelegates," said Steve Murphy, a Democratic consultant who worked on Bill Richardson's presidential campaign but who is now unaligned.

Stephanie Cutter, a Democratic strategist who worked on John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign, noted that while 1.3 million donors is only a fraction of the total number of people who have voted in the presidential contests so far, "it still represents a ground force unlike anything we've ever seen."

"It's hard to argue that he's not a representing a _ quote _ new kind of politics _ end quote _ with 1.3 million donors," she added.

Obama's flush finances could work against him, however, if his heavy spending doesn't yield results. A sizable Clinton victory in Pennsylvania could raise questions about Obama's viability.

Clinton's ad in North Carolina suggests she is not afraid of spending money either and could force Obama to ratchet up his advertising in that state.

Some unaligned Democrats remain wary of the entire situation, afraid that the quantities of money and continuing competition will hurt the eventual party nominee as McCain builds up his support with little opposition.

"Obama and Clinton's fundraising numbers are impressive," Donna Brazile, Al Gore's campaign manager in 2000, said in an e-mail exchange. "There's no question that voters remain excited about the two candidates, but if this money is used to tear the party apart or to destruct the other while McCain is out on a bio tour, it would be akin to pouring it down the drain."

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WASHINGTON — Barack Obama raked in $40 million in March, leaving Hillary Rodham Clinton and her $20 million in the fundraising dust and stuffing his campaign treasury so he can outspend her in t...
WASHINGTON — Barack Obama raked in $40 million in March, leaving Hillary Rodham Clinton and her $20 million in the fundraising dust and stuffing his campaign treasury so he can outspend her in t...
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It's amazing how much money is wasted on these political campaigns....is this all money from lobbyists or what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 04/04/2008
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 30 fans permalink

In Obama's case, no. His average contribution is around $100, meaning he's getting the bulk of his campaign contributions from millions of citizens just like us! :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/04/2008
- finethnx I'm a Fan of finethnx 2 fans permalink

Oprah, collection plates.........big surprise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 04/04/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

What continues to amaze me and, frankly, befuddle me is how this charming, eloquent, bright, affable candidate who out raises by double or more consistently and out spends by huge amounts and has a ground swell of suppporters and big advantage of workers on the ground cannot seem to win the popular ballot box vote in even blue collars states when he is strong on all the issues most democrats support, except for his slightly weak health care proposal. WHY? Money has always talked by this far into a campaign. It is a huge concern to think that no matter how much money he raises, he might not be able to carry an election if he cannot win those big state blue collar pivotal states in a democratic ballot box private vote primary. What is missing in this picture? Is he misspending his money in some fatal flaw way that does not get the votes? I do understand why his supporters are so worried that he has not been able to thoroughly crush all the opposition. IF racism is the issue in a democratic primary, that bodes problems for one that includes everyone voting in november. If experience, the same. Help me understand how the candidate who has the most positive MSM support I have ever witnessed and the most money and the best organization and the ability toeven hand out tickets to young people for a rock concert on Sunday can be in this much trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 04/04/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

12% think he is a Muslim when he is a Christian, Name recognition, bigotry been used against him, Republicans and Democrats attacking him. When you are the new kid on the block you will be given a hard time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 AM on 04/04/2008
- Pammy1151 I'm a Fan of Pammy1151 9 fans permalink
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Gee that is an easy one to figure out. Still too much racism in this country today. Having lived in PA and having many friends from Ohio I can tell you that the working people are the hardest to reach. I believe that these are the ones who never do any research on the candidates. They vote by the obvious. The women for Hillary and the men well hey he's black and I just can't do that. Trust me my sister work's at the postoffice in PA and is an Obama supporter. I can't repeat what they say to her when she brings up his name. Are these not the average male voters in PA?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 04/04/2008
- suigeneris I'm a Fan of suigeneris 18 fans permalink
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Uh, I think you need to examine your own assumptions in order to get the answers you seek.

He is not in any "trouble" whatsoever. He's coasting along to inevitable victory. Like he has been even since winning 13 out of 15 states in a row.

Just because the media which you claim favors him so much isn't willing to pull the rug out from underneath Queen Hillary until she gives them permission, doesn't mean Obama is "in trouble". He's got the contest in the bag by every metric, INCLUDING the popular vote, by nearly a million votes; and an insurmountable lead.

So I'm confused as to where this trouble you think he's in is...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 04/04/2008
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 30 fans permalink

You wonder how it is that Obama is still not the overwhelming winner despite all of his attractive qualities? Maybe it's because people have been forming their opinions about Hillary Clinton for well over a decade, while most people had never even heard of Obama only one year ago and are still in catch-up mode.

BTW, "this much trouble"? You mean coming from way behind as a virtual unknown to pull ahead of the well known, presumptive slam-dunk winner over a period of just a few months? That kind of trouble?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 04/04/2008
- j0e I'm a Fan of j0e 6 fans permalink

Night folks, Thanks for everything, was great! Except for you Atomic, you can bite me...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 04/04/2008
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your way too bitter

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Full day tomorrow. See ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 04/04/2008
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night

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 04/04/2008
- nohat I'm a Fan of nohat 7 fans permalink

Well, I just watched the video of Hillary on the J. Leno show http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/clinton-appears-on-the-to_n_94986.htmll) making light of her lie about Bosnia, calling it a lapse, saying she'd written about it in a book and then got mixed up. The joke part was when she sat down and said, "Wow, I wasn't sure I was going to make it here, I was worried aobut sniper fire." etc. I feel insulted, no, I'll be honest, I feel like smacking her. She talks to the voters as if they are children. She talks to Obama--- "Shame on you, Barack!"--- as if he's a child.
She is wearing me down. If people are going to laugh off her hideous lies, what hope is there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 04/04/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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People might laugh when a flashing sign tells them to, but hopefully very few vote that way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 04/04/2008
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Barely anyone laughed at that joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 04/04/2008
- nohat I'm a Fan of nohat 7 fans permalink

I heard quite a lot of laughter. In any case, I thought it was tacky for her to even bring it up let alone make light of it. 'Brazen' is a good way to describe Hillary. I believe she will win the Nom because, well, just because. If the supers hand it to her, I will quit the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 04/04/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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The inventor of the Hokey Cokey has died. It was a quiet and solemn funeral up to the
point where someone saw his left leg hanging out of the coffin.
Someone tried to put it back in and that was when all hell broke lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 04/04/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Nochnoi, this silly joke was for you. You said you liked goofy, so is it goofy enough?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 04/04/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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LOL!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 04/04/2008
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What I want to know is why can't McCain keep his promises?

John McCain said - "I think I'd just commit suicide." --in October 2006, on the prospects of the Democrats taking back the Senate in the November election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 04/04/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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OMG LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 04/04/2008
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A tragic and sad fire is reported to have destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush.

BOTH of his books have been lost. Sources close to the president report he is really quite devastated.

Apparently he had not finished coloring in the second one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 04/04/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 04/04/2008
- SoulSistah I'm a Fan of SoulSistah 14 fans permalink

No you didn't!! LMAO!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 04/04/2008

My intention tonight was to come here, make a few light hearted comments, and relax, but AtomicSplash...your last name must be Hoover because you managed to suck the humour out of me.

Not wanting to get into full confrontational mode tonight, I'll chill and try to regain my humour.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 04/04/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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CP, you've been a delight. Take it for what it is worth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 04/04/2008

Thanks,

I'm cool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 04/04/2008
- j0e I'm a Fan of j0e 6 fans permalink

Agreed, his routine got old, quick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Hateful old. I've been on the end of his dishonesty before.

When the first wind of counting the discredited votes of MI and FL came up, his answer to the question "How could she have agreed to the sanctions weeks ago and now be agitating for the counting of the votes now?" was:

"A smart person knows when to change their mind. Don't you want a smart candidate?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 04/04/2008
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CP, I enjoyed your posts. Here's a Bush joke that might lighten the mood.

George Bush and Dick Cheney are talking, when Bush suddenly complains "I hate all the dumb George Bush jokes people tell about me."

Cheney, feeling sorry for his "boss," says "Oh, they're only jokes. There are a lot of truly stupid people out there. Here, I'll prove it to you."

Cheney takes Bush outside and hails a cab.

"Please take me to 29 Nickel Street to see if I'm home," says Cheney. The cab driver, without saying a word, drives them to 29 Nickel Street.

Cheney looks at Bush and says, "See! This guy is really stupid."

George Bush agrees. "He really is a dummy. There was a pay phone just around the corner. You could have called instead."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 04/04/2008
- j0e I'm a Fan of j0e 6 fans permalink

hahahahahah... good timing, BG&E... thanks :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 04/04/2008

LMAO!!!

Thanks, good one, I needed that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 04/04/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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LOL! Loved it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 04/04/2008
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poor baby

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Do you know what I find really shocking? That a politician would manipulate people in order to get them to like and admire him. What is this world coming to when a man like Obama can fool 20,000 people to show up to a venue and listen to him give a canned speech and cheer and cheer and be all excited and enthusiastic and get the stupid idea in their heads that they can make any difference and should have hope that tomorrow could be better?

What is happening when people make an emotional bond to a mere politician? Do these people not have brains in their heads? Are they on drugs?

You would think it was 1992 and Bill Clinton was running for president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 04/04/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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You bastard. Now I've got Fleetwood Mac in my head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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My sole purpose for coming here is to torment you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 04/04/2008

I've seen it many places. People don't want to come out of their comfort zones... they fear change, it confuses them. They already have their little world organised, and any messing with that organisation brings fear because they don't know if, or how long it will take for them to get back on track.

The fear is even more intensified when they're asked to participate in this change, not only is their world evolving, but they actually have to get involved. So they try any tactic they know, usually old style attacks and deflections, to try to remain in their comfort zone.

Which is ironic, on this the anniversary of the assassination of MLK, one of the most striking examples of an agent of change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 04/04/2008

A sampling of the righteous Atomicsplash's comments

so incensed at someone making fun of a Hillary supporter, yet has no problem being mean to Obama supporters... unless you were being mean to Hillary supporters, but nah...you wouldn't do that:

LMAO you're really stupid aren't you? posted 04/04/2008 at 00:25:39

(wince) poor poor joe, LOL you couldn't even tell the truth in that truly sorry attempt at a snappy comeback. posted 04/03/2008 at 22:50:45

ah so you made it up. LOL You must be an Obama guy posted 04/03/2008 at 22:27:05

probably as soon as most of you guys start breathing through your nose posted 04/03/2008 at 21:44:24
you sound robotic posted 04/03/2008 at 21:42:58

great another mouth breather posted 04/03/2008 at 21:37:17

oh great LOL another spell checking mouth breather posted 04/03/2008 at 03:09:14

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Follow his profile to last night, where he insisted that Hillary had indeed come under fire and that Obamans had the responsibility to prove otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 04/04/2008
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well kev, the footage you showed me had Hillary with four wardrobe changes. Why did CBS need to pad their coverage. Maybe because there story was weak?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 04/04/2008

I saw those, and all his attacks on you personally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 04/04/2008
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Thank you for that sampling. Something I have noticed, is that the Clinton supporters have no complaints about Clinton's scorched earth politicking and negative campaign. They have no problem putting down Obama supporters. But the moment that the negativity from the Clinton campaign bounces back onto the Clinton campaign, and the Obama supporters rail against the negativity, the Clinton supporters can't handle it and whine about it. They can't handle the fact that they are generally outnumbered on this blog. If they don't want dissenting views or can't handle reading posts they find offensive, they can go to taylormarsh where Obamans can't post. But they have no right to whine about what they do themselves. They simply can't handle getting a taste of their own medicine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 04/04/2008
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man your dense. I'll take hits all day. All you Obama guys do anymore is mock Hillary. That's what you've become. That''s the trolls do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 04/04/2008
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It's just anonymous words on a blog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 04/04/2008

"man your dense"
"That''s the trolls do"

Maybe if you weren't so false with your righteous indignation you wouldn't take hits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 04/04/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Ugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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You may want to review the rules of homophones.

Hillary sure does seem to love her daughter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 04/04/2008

Notwithstanding Obama's orator talent and his obvious charisma It's a shame that both, he and Clinton, have to raise money so that voters can see them on TV and so that pundits can have a feast day at it. Our system of campaigning is wrong. TV networks should give free time so that candidates could be scrutinized a great deal easier. Why can't our legislators come up with a plan so that our government can defray the expenses accrued by candidates. We don't have to have millionaires running. We need folks with common sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 04/04/2008
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I agree. This is the way it's done in most Western countries. Free air time, no 527's and public funding only.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 04/04/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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I'd like the fairness doctrine back too, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Yeah. Just a crying shame.

Next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 04/04/2008
- xcrunner77 I'm a Fan of xcrunner77 15 fans permalink

"if this money is used to tear the party apart or to destruct the other while McCain is out on a bio tour, it would be akin to pouring it down the drain" That's why the superdelegates need to get off their collective asses, endorse Obama, and get this thing over with. While Obama and Clinton use all their ammo shooting at each other, Grandpa McCain doesn't have to spend his money fighting anybody. He can continue to pile it up. If he can pile up money for six months that will more than make up for Hillary and Obama's fundraising ability, since they'll have to start all over again months from now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 04/04/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Luckily, his pile isn't growing by much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 04/04/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 353 fans permalink
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The American people are finally catching on to what many of us have witnessed for months, and they are sending their message loud and clear with their hard earned dollars.

That's why Hillary's coffers are drying up while Obama's continue to set records.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 04/04/2008
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I'm so glad his supporters have him rolling in dough They lost him my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 04/04/2008
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Glad you let other people change your mind for you.... were you ever really going to vote for him in the first place?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/04/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 353 fans permalink
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Yet you willingly approve Hillary's "kitchen sink" attack approach to campaigning? The lies and innuendo are O.K. with you as long as they're not being directed at YOUR candidate?

Pure hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/04/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

There is the possibility that the Obama supporters that post at HuffPost don't represent the vast majority of them. Sounds like you like Obama but not the remarks denigrating Hillary that are prevelent here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 04/04/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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If your mechanism for choosing a candidate to support is so flimsy as to rely on the spewing of a few dozen posters on a blog, you really are too stupid to live.

But we know that this post from you is just one in a series of cheap lies. There was no way you were ever going to support Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 04/04/2008
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Now Barack can go to the convention with a gift list for every delegate's campaign fund, plus an offer to go back on his earlier statement about taking public funding in the GE and straight out crush McCain under the weight of money, money, and more money. No argument about electoral maps, or greater experience, or anything so trivial can compete with raw money. Obamites used to complain that Hillary had an advantage in money raising that gave her an unfair advantage, but that's all changed now. Looking ahead to the next presidential election, what will be the minimum fundraising requirement to play - a quarter billion for starters? Maybe future candidates can borrow money from the Chinese.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 04/04/2008
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Wow! Them thar are some daring prognostications!

Time to buy a new Magic 8-Ball.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 04/04/2008
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McCain's campaign finance reform legislation that he no longer supports might have been a good idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 04/04/2008

It's not the money, really. The phenomenon is strictly American guilt which is/and or should be very heavy indeed..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 04/04/2008
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I'm only guilty about the current maladministration making us look like a nation of boobs. And I suppose that has a bit to do with why I support Obama over McSame or Clinton II.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 04/04/2008

You may need a colonoscopy. I believe your head may be buried in there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 04/04/2008
- j0e I'm a Fan of j0e 6 fans permalink

This Northern European descendant is voting for Obama, and it's got nothing to do with race or Sex, or any other uncontrollable factor. This is about character and judgment, pure and simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 04/04/2008
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