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First Posted: 04- 3-08 04:55 PM   |   Updated: 04-23-08 12:00 PM

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Pennsylvania Polls

** PENNSYLVANIA RESULTS: **

99.44% Reporting

Clinton
1,237,696
54.6%

Obama
1,029,672
45.4%

The latest delegate figures are here, or check out this very detailed Pennsylvania delegate tracker. County by country results are here.

Clinton Survives Another Day: AP's analysis of tonight's primary: "Hillary Rodham Clinton survived yet another day. There will be little time for celebration, though. Time and money are running out."

Her win Tuesday in the important swing state of Pennsylvania was hard-fought. Barack Obama's well-funded effort to shut her down did not reach its goal of an upset.


The dynamics of the race are the same as they've been for more than two months. Obama is the front-runner, and California-based Democratic consultant Dan Newman points out that is more important the closer the campaign comes to the end of the primary season.

"He's content to essentially run out the clock with his narrow lead, while she needs something dramatic to happen," Newman said. "A one-run advantage in the first inning isn't a big deal, but a one-run lead in the ninth looms large."

Keep reading here.

The Hillary Victory Spin: Ben Smith reports that Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee at the Park Hyatt in Philadelphia said: "There's beginning to be a subtle shift of psychology of a lot of the uncommitted supers. [They] are beginning to wonder why Obama has been unable to win this thing despite all the advantages he has.

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"There's a lot of questions that are beginning to surface about him," he said, while superdelegates are learning that "every time she's got her back up against the wall, she delivers."

Here's her victory speech, where she told a spirited rally in Philadelphia that the "tide is turning" in her nomination contest against Barack Obama.

The Spin From Obamaland: "Sen. Barack Obama was en route from Philadelphia to Evansville, Ind., when the race was called," the Washington Post reports, "but the candidate and his advisers were all smiles when they boarded the plane, relieved that the dreaded blowout had not occurred. The news of a projected single-digit win for Clinton -- a projection that might yet change -- was transmitted via BlackBerrys as the campaign landed."

"We've been very clear from the beginning, we didn't come in with oversized expectations," said David Axelrod, Obama's chief political adviser. "We wanted to get our share." More here.

In Evansville, the Democratic presidential front-runner told supporters that he was able to narrow the gap in Pennsylvania, register a record number of voters and rally people of all backgrounds to his campaign. After the bruising Pennsylvania contest, Obama said bickering and tit-for-tat politics obscured the great issues of the day - two wars, a recession and a planet in peril. Watch the speech:

NYT Blames Clinton For "Mean, Vacuous, Desperate" Race: The Obama campaign is sending out a New York Times editorial released tonight that blasts Hillary Clinton -- whom the Times endorsed. Here's a sample:

The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.


Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election.

If nothing else, self interest should push her in that direction. Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed to challenge the calculus of the Democratic race. It is true that Senator Barack Obama outspent her 2-to-1. But Mrs. Clinton and her advisers should mainly blame themselves, because, as the political operatives say, they went heavily negative and ended up squandering a good part of what was once a 20-point lead.

The editorial also knocks Obama:

He is increasingly rising to Mrs. Clinton's bait, undercutting his own claims that he is offering a higher more inclusive form of politics. When she criticized his comments about "bitter" voters, Mr. Obama mocked her as an Annie Oakley wannabe. All that does is remind Americans who are on the fence about his relative youth and inexperience.

Clinton Has Lost Fight For Popular Delegates: From Marc Ambinder:

As NBC's Chuck Todd points out tonight, Clinton's chances of winning the nomination based on pledged delegates is effectively over tonight.


If Obama keeps his pledged delegate lead to around 150, Clinton needs to win 70% of them on May 6 -- and if not, 80% of them after May 6.

That's more than next to impossible.

Here's the video of Todd:

Clinton Camp: $2.5M Raised Since Victory Called: Clinton spokesman Phil Singer writes: "As of 11:30PM tonight, we are at nearly $2.5 million since PA was called for HRC - 80% of that money is coming from new donors to the campaign. It's our best night ever."

"Stop The Drama, Vote Obama": Mark Halperin provides this photo of Obama communications chief Robert Gibbs leaving the Keystone State by jet plane "sporting a t-shirt with a pointed message for voters (and superdelegates?)."

Can Hillary Overtake Popular Vote? Probably Not: Ben Smith notes:

Terry McAuliffe, on MSNBC, suggested that Hillary could take the lead in the popular vote -- a technically meaningless, and flawed, measure, but one that could in theory provide a measure of legitimacy to Clinton's claims of victory.


He's referring to a count that, at least, would include Florida, and might also include Michigan -- not to any count that Obama partisans would accept; she'd likely need a wider margin than the early polls suggest to close the gap in any mutually accepted figure.

My rough estimate was that a 10% margin and giant turnout in Pennsylvania could give her 200,000 of the roughly 700,000 votes she'd need to take a clear lead; with 20%, she would have come within striking distance. Those numbers seem high now.

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APRIL 22: Not to be outdone, Insider Advantage has also released a final poll showing Hillary maintaining the lead in the PA primary:

Hillary Clinton: 49%

Barack Obama: 42%
Undecided: 9%

APRIL 22: Today is the primary, and Zogby has released a final Pennsylvania poll showing Hillary opening up her lead slightly:

Hillary Clinton: 51%

Barack Obama: 41%
Undecided: 6%

APRIL 21: With the Pennsylvania primary a day away, a slew of polls have come out predicting tomorrow's returns. Here is the collection, with a few observations below:


Zogby Poll

Hillary Clinton: 48%

Barack Obama: 42%


Suffolk Poll
Hillary Clinton: 52%

Barack Obama: 42%


Quinnipac Poll
Hillary Clinton: 51%

Barack Obama: 44%


SurveyUSA Poll
Hillary Clinton: 50%

Barack Obama: 44%


PPP Poll (pdf)

Hillary Clinton: 46%

Barack Obama: 49%


Rasmussen Poll
Hillary Clinton: 49%

Barack Obama: 44%

First to note is that the race has tightened significantly over the past few weeks, but that most polls are reflecting a healthy, single-point margin for Clinton. SurveyUSA shows a six-point lead for Clinton, which is line with other polls, but is their closest result in weeks (SurveyUSA has, generally, had one of the best overall track records during the election season). Also worth noting is that Zogby's day tracking polls show a wider margin than this weekend, suggesting that late-deciding voters may be breaking for Clinton (another trend we have seen for most of the cycle).

APRIL 20: A McClatchy Poll has Clinton with a lead just outside the margin of error, though the undecideds surveyed are all in areas favorable to Clinton:

Hillary Clinton: 48%

Barack Obama: 43%

APRIL 20: A Zogby poll has Hillary Clinton maintaining a slim lead at the end of the weekend in Pennsylvania:

Hillary Clinton: 46%

Barack Obama: 43%

APRIL 17: A Zogby poll shows the Pennsylvania race tied, although Zogby has had a few misfires so far this year (see: Ohio, California):

Hillary Clinton: 45%

Barack Obama: 44%

APRIL 15: A SurveyUSA poll shows Hillary maintaining a double-digit lead over Obama (more on Pennsylvania polls):

Hillary Clinton: 54%

Barack Obama: 40%

APRIL 15: A Rasmussen poll has Hillary leading by nine, a small tick-up from her lead of five last week:

Hillary Clinton: 50%

Barack Obama: 41%

APRIL 15: A Quinnipac poll taken during the height of the "bitter" fallout has found Obama's momentum stalled, but still within a few points of Clinton's lead:

Hillary Clinton: 50%

Barack Obama: 44%

APRIL 14: A Susquehana poll (pdf) shows the Pennsylvania race dead even, though the actual polling was conducted prior to Obama's comments about Pennsylvania voters:

Hillary Clinton: 40%

Barack Obama: 37%
Undecided: 18%

APRIL 14: Signs of bitterness? Whatever it is, the latest ARG poll has Hillary with a huge lead, as contrasted to a tie in the polls only last week:

Hillary Clinton: 57%

Barack Obama: 37%
Undecided: 4%

APRIL 10: Hillary Clinton has a six-point lead over Barack Obama in the latest Pennsylvania poll from Time Magazine. Clinton "enjoys a notably broader margin of support among white Democratic women: 56% to Obama's 25%. More evenly split, by contrast, are white male Democrats, who prefer Clinton by a narrower margin of 44% to 36%."

Hillary Clinton: 44%

Barack Obama: 38%

APRIL 9: A new PPP poll also shows Clinton with a small lead. However PPP's most recent poll showed Obama with a tiny lead, so this should reaffirm the idea that Clinton's support has resettled:

Hillary Clinton: 46%

Barack Obama: 43%

APRIL 9: A Strategic Vision poll reflects a similar result to similar polls, namely a tighter race than previously expected, with Sen. Clinton maintaining a narrow but significant lead:

Hillary Clinton: 47%

Barack Obama: 42%

APRIL 9: Results from a Rasmussen poll have steadied since last week's result, with Sen. Clinton maintaining a small lead. She has lost ground to Sen. Obama since March, but today's poll suggests a leveling off:

Barack Obama: 48%

Hillary Clinton 43%

APRIL 8: A SurveyUSA poll has Clinton maintaining a big lead in Pennsylvania:

Hillary Clinton: 56%

Barack Obama: 38%

APRIL 8: Another poll, this one from Quinnipac, shows the race tightening:

Hillary Clinton: 50%

Barack Obama: 44%

APRIL 6: An ARG poll shows a considerable tightening in the primary, with a tie between Clinton and Obama:

Hillary Clinton: 45%

Barack Obama: 45%
Undecided: 6%

APRIL 4: A local Pennsylvania poll shows Clinton with an 11-point lead, down since from the previous poll two weeks ago but still comfortable:

Clinton: 49%

Obama: 38%

APRIL 3: The latest Insider Advantage poll has Hillary clinging to a small lead, although a large number of voters remain undecided:


The internals show Clinton leading only slightly among white voters, while Obama leads among blacks. However, a larger-than-average number of black voters remain undecided, which suggests an advantage for Obama if past results are an indicator.

Clinton: 45%

Obama: 43%
Undecided: 12%

APRIL 2: Clinton maintains a healthy lead in a Quinnipac poll, with her lead contracting by only a few points since March:

Clinton: 50%

Obama: 41%

However, a PPP poll (pdf) finds Obama with the lead, albeit well within the margin of error:

Obama: 45%

Clinton: 43%

APRIL 1: Survey USA has Hillary holding steadily ahead of Obama, with only a slight number of voters left undecided:

Clinton: 53%

Obama: 41%
Undecided:2%

Check here for HuffPost's Pennsylvania primary coverage.

** PENNSYLVANIA RESULTS: ** 99.44% Reporting Clinton 1,237,696 54.6% Obama 1,029,672 45.4% The latest delegate figures are here, or check out this very detailed Pennsylvania delegate tracker. C...
** PENNSYLVANIA RESULTS: ** 99.44% Reporting Clinton 1,237,696 54.6% Obama 1,029,672 45.4% The latest delegate figures are here, or check out this very detailed Pennsylvania delegate tracker. C...
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Once again: if Pennsylvania and Indiana throw their weight behind a woman who has voted *for* every major piece of legislation concerning the illegal Iraq plunder, and who has lied--and still lies--about NAFTA, not to mention a score of other essential issues, then they should secede from the Union. Their an embarrassment to us all.

Glad I never visited either. Lord.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 04/11/2008
- Daniel8168 I'm a Fan of Daniel8168 11 fans permalink

"It's been very difficult for me to sit on the sidelines and fail to support a woman," said Mrs. Masloff, a Democratic superdelegate who had been neutral in the presidential race. "For a long time, I was convinced I shouldn't make a public choice. We have two wonderful candidates. But finally, I just couldn't sit on the fence."

Wow! Great reason to endorse someone. I wonder how many of Hillary's SD's felt this same way. At least for Mrs. Masloff, we have incontrivertible proof that her support is entirely based on the fact that Hillary is a woman. Doesn't get much more sexist than that folks. I wonder how Mrs. Masloff feels knowing that she is aiding and abetting the sale of American jobs to Colombia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 04/11/2008
- FINTA I'm a Fan of FINTA 4 fans permalink

its funny because as I read that I thought the exact same thing.... you're endorsing her because she is a woman!!! Wow...

Would have been better if she would have said "its been difficult for me to sit on the sidelines and fail to support the candidate I feel is best to respresent the Democratic party..."

NO... she went straight for the WOMAN part... thats purely amazing...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 04/11/2008
- eurydice I'm a Fan of eurydice 10 fans permalink

Would people still vote for Hillary if they knew she belonged to a religious cult?

See details at:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/18/71537/3008/988/373286

Hillary joined a bible study group (The Fellowship" or "the Family") described as one of a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ.

According to a quote from former Senator Wm. Armstrong, these groups "make a fetish of being invisible"

The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God who uses them for his purposes. It's mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.

The leader of The Fellowship is Doug Coe...and it's long-term goal is

"a leadership led by God-Leaders at all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit."

Clinton is a member of Coe's possibly most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast...usually attended by about 40 members...with the regulars being Sam Brownback, Tom Coburn, Joe Lieberman, Mark Pryor,and, until recently, George Allen. Other names sprinkled throughout the article and mentioned as friends of Coe include Tom Delay, John Ashcroft, Edwin Meese III, Rep. Joe Pitts, Jeb Bush, Chuck Colson, James Inhofe, Rick Santorum, and others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 04/11/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 04/11/2008
- Tejano1 I'm a Fan of Tejano1 10 fans permalink

yeah, he says that obama supporters "shamed" hillary for her "lie" and thus used healthcare tragedy as a "gotcha' moment against her. ironically, the putz then uses the healthcare tragedy to score a political point by shaming the supposed obama supporters for being skeptical of hillary. look, you can't blame the american public for being suspicious every time hellary opens her lying mouth. i mean, hell, with penn and bill making loads of cash lobbying for cafta while she hypocritically rails against it even though billary's bank account is growing fat off the issue as she lies. good god, that one is worse than the phantom sniper shots! krugman's got some nerve pointing his little moralizing finger in our faces.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 04/11/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Hilary is entirely her own author of her reputation as a liar.

Unless someone can tell me just when in her life it was that she came under sniper fire.

It's over with. Her approval numbers are plummeting toward Bush territory. There is no earthly way we could get her elected. Which is not really much of an issue, because we are not going to nominate her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 04/11/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Ohh! Look at your bad self smugly rubbing this in people's faces while you call them a name!

As it happens, most people dissed the carelessness of using an unvetted story and not knowing laws. Many people agreed with the essence of that article - including myself. So please, next time you go posting things with such a disgusting attitude, please have the grace to be informed.


Keith Olbermann shames Clinton Supporters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOLEK2lr3CM&feature=related

The University of chicago shames Clinton Supporters
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/28/university-of-chicago-ob_n_93896.html

Should I go on? Does -anyone- ever apologise for those? No, you people still spread them.

Don't talk to me about "shame".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 04/11/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Thanks for the links.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 04/11/2008
- xcrunner77 I'm a Fan of xcrunner77 14 fans permalink

Sophie Masloff, like so many other women who are supporting Hillary, admits that the only reason for her support is that they both have vaginas. That seems like the kind of sexism that Hillary and other feminists used to find abhorrent. But somehow that's an acceptable reason and passes in the news with a yawn.

If a black leader said "I am endorsing Barack because I couldn't not endorse a black man" that would be called racist. He would be told he was horrible.

Ah well, the hypocrasy of Clinton supporters matches that of their candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 04/11/2008

Low income women support rich and powerful women who do not real have their interest at heart.

a majority of women who are well-off and powerful always claim gender discrimination when it suits them to gain women's support.

Often, these chest-thumping women put up will abuse from their powerful husbands even when they are embarrassed publicly.

As it happens, these powerful women defend their abusive husbands even as these same women trample the women of lesser means.

The story of HRC is no better than this - too many low income women were destroyed by her network while she chose to protect her hubby. Recent reports confirm women loosing their livelihoods due to trade deals supported by her, her husband, and their close friends

Two issues worth talking about:
(i) Can such powerful low-income­-woman-des­troying "feminists" be allowed to be the ones to carrying the flag for all of us women

(ii) Why do powerful women choose not to discuss how they routinely discriminate and even abuse fellow women of lesser means

I feel sorry for these women who do not seem to see how they are being exploited by HRC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 04/11/2008
- Tejano1 I'm a Fan of Tejano1 10 fans permalink

not to mention that bill's "welfare reform" in '96, which was supported by hillary (see front page story in ny times, friday april 11) hurt single mothers the worst. and add to that, her support for the bankruptcy bill which will also do great harm to women and their children this year. so much for hillary's feminism. it astounds me how so many women can support this elite, privileged woman as a feminist cause. she's nothing but a corporate shill who has nothing in common w/ most women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 04/11/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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She is nothing more that mad lust for power walking on two legs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 04/11/2008

Maybe the blue collar working families ought to learn more about the Clintons fleecing the taxpayers, while the working families' pensions are falling to the wayside, along with their good dependable jobs.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9531.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/10/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 50 fans permalink
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I hate to say this, but "race matters". I believe in the privacy of the voting booth many whites in PA will not vote for Obama because of his race. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 04/10/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Well their govenor said as much, didn't he?

No one is expecting Obama to win. We just hope he keeps it close.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 04/10/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 13 fans permalink

This headline is misleading and the way in which these polls are laid out is very misleading, Huffington Post!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 04/10/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 144 fans permalink

Well, there you have it.......White Women vote as a bloc!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 04/10/2008
- ang4ever I'm a Fan of ang4ever 2 fans permalink


I did not vote for a Saint. I want a President who has made mistakes, kicked and slammed down, got up and re-invent himself/herself to be a stronger person.

But for both presidential candidates - the first black president, and the first woman is historic. PA made a statement ! My vote counts !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 04/10/2008

I remember when Gov. Rendell made the remark that a “Black man” could not win in Pennsylvania, I thought to myself this is “Bull”. I figured he might have problems in some of the southern states but I never dreamed Pennsylvania was so much more racist then some of the states in the deep south. Can anybody explain what it is about the demographics of Pennsylvania that makes it more racist then these other states?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 04/10/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 50 fans permalink
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Well I've heard PA referred to this way: You've got Philly and Pittsburgh and Alabama in the middle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 04/10/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Well I don't think it is. I think it seems so because in the south, the racist vote is evened out by the black vote. But in PA there are not enough blacks to even out the racists. That is what I read, anyway, and it seems logical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 04/10/2008

HuffPo, we love you.

But PLEASE... when you post polls, be sure to post the error margin... otherwise the figures are statistically meaningless.

For example:
http://carmen-comments.blogspot.com/2008/04/hillary-leads-obama-by-33.html

Thanks
CT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 04/10/2008

SURVEY USA is by far the most accurate polling company in 2008. They got both California and Ohio right, down to the exact percentage points. They now show Clinton winning by 18 in Pennsylvania. Unless a miracle happens, or some huge gaffe by either party, Clinton is poised for a HUGE win in Pennsylvania. Obama has desperately tried to stop here there, outspending her 4 or 5 to 1. If he gets blown out there, the whole narrative in the media will drastically change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 04/10/2008

Welcome to Earth...how are things on Mars? Most of the polling has Sen. Obama quickly approaching Clinton (4 points) in Pennsylvania and SURVEY USA has been proven NOT to be the best in polling so you can stop your spin now and go home. Let the grown-ups play.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 04/10/2008
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That doesn't speak well for Pennsylvania. Hillary is old politics, there is nothing fresh there. If Obama indeed lags behind it is not a reflection on him. It is sad if the Pennsylvanians really want more years of Clinton, Bush, Clinton. Bill's presidency was a prolonged soap opera and we can expect more of the same from Hillary. And she didn't even have the guts to vote against authorizing the Iraq War.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 04/10/2008

A huge win would be +20% or more as was expected of her only 2 months ago.

Even at +10% she needs 9 more Pennsylvanias just to catch Obama.

Here's the math based on RCP figures:

Pledged Delegates: BO=1415 HC=1251
Penn Delegates: 158
Assume +10% for HC = +16 Delegates

BO is ahead by: 1415 - 1251 = 164 in pledged delegates
BO is ahead by: 1641-1503 = 138 including superdelegates

138/16 = 8.625 = Number of PA-like states she would have to win by 10% to catch BO

There are 566 delegates (non-super) to elect including PA.

138/566 = 24.4% = The margin HC has to win EVERY remaining state by (inc PA) to catch BO

Except the only one that's close to the same size is NC where BO is 10% ahead.
If she wins PA by 10%, the difference will be 120 (inc super)

There will be 566-158 = 408 remaining delegates (non super) to vote for after PA

120/408 = 29.4% = The margin she has to win all remaining states (inc NC) after PA if she wins PA by only 10% ahead of BO

(NB: All the above assumes remaining super delegates split 50/50 for BO & HC)

So in summary:

She needs +24.4 % of all remaining delegates to catch BO

If only she gets +10% in PA, she will need almost +30% of all the rest



Phew!!!... smoke rises from calculator....

CT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 04/10/2008
- buzz I'm a Fan of buzz 5 fans permalink

Bottom line: BHO can't win on pledged delegates.
He needs to argue that the "super delegates" are morally bound to vote for him.
Why should they be?
Because he is AHEAD (slightly)?
Ask Teddy Kennedy about that.
Ask Gary Hart about that.
Anyone who argues that the supers are bound to vote for the candidate AHEAD in pledged delegates simply doesn't know the history of democratic primary politics.
Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 04/10/2008

Your calculations are for Hillary to catch Obama in PLEDGED delegates correct?

Could you post what it would take for her to win the popular vote?

And what about MI and FL? Are you assuming then that those delegates won't be sat at the convention?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 04/11/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 31 fans permalink

Past performance is no guarantee of future results. I expect they're wrong in this case. Given there are two weeks to go, Obama will probably close the gap. She may still win but it won't be by much. It may end up being a big surprise. The idea that it's actually over is taking hold and don't be surprised if PA decides to end it for good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 04/10/2008

After talking to voters, making 6 hours of calls EVERY DAY for 3 weeks, I have to say 3/4 of the voters I connected to are supporting Hillary, hands down. Whether this translates to a win? I don't know. I hardly was taking a poll, but everyone only expressed tremendous enthusiasm for Senator Clinton. It was quite strange, but they all felt that she was the best suited for taking care of the Economy and Home foreclosures. Healthcare was also a big issue for many. Surprising, Iraq was not as pressing to PA voters. Oregon, it is all about green energy and Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 04/11/2008
- nohat I'm a Fan of nohat 7 fans permalink

Sorry, posted the wrong link below, here's the right one:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/clinton-picks-up-three-superdelegates/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 04/10/2008
- nohat I'm a Fan of nohat 7 fans permalink

And that's not all. Hillary has picked up "three superdelegates in 36 hours":
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/pennsylvania-primary-poll_n_94943.html#postComment

Pennsylvania seems like an eternity away...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 04/10/2008
- SoulSistah I'm a Fan of SoulSistah 14 fans permalink

If true, she needs them . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 04/10/2008

And Obama got a few superdelegates today. He's still creeping up on her. The said thing is that they are three wasted endorsements. She can't win this fight and the writing has been on the wall for a while now. I just think her supporters want to destroy the democratic party once and for all. She needs to drop out and the Democrats need to start getting together behind Obama and stop trying to fragment the party. It's time to grow the hell up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 04/10/2008
- FINTA I'm a Fan of FINTA 4 fans permalink

I wouldn't be so proud of that... one of her super dels supports her because she is a WOMAN... not bc she has great policies, bc she is a leader... but a WOMAN... well hell, let me run, I have a vagina and boobs... guess I can get support too huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 04/11/2008
- RIPHRC I'm a Fan of RIPHRC 3 fans permalink

Do not argue with H.L. Mencken. For you will be crushed by an onslaught of intellect to vast for incapable minds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 04/10/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Oh yea...the thesaurus dude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 04/10/2008
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