Pregnant Man On Oprah: I Have Intercourse With My Wife

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Thomas the now famous transgendered pregnant man appeared on "Oprah" today and talked about the impending birth of his child. Thomas kept his female reproductive organs to one day have children. He and his wife Nancy shared their excitement and their nerves over the impending birth, and got specific with what happened to make this possible. They had trouble finding a doctor willing to take Thomas on a obstetrics patient, but did, and then used a sperm donor. Nancy delivered the sperm to Thomas at home. Thomas, 34, went off of testosterone two years beforehand so he could get pregnant. However, the testosterone, he tells a curious Oprah, had over the years enlarged his clitoris into a small penis, enabling him to have intercourse with his wife.

Read all the Thomas' appearance on Oprah on her website. He is also featured in the new issue of People magazine.

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Why is pleasure frowned upon,
while we fight wars on everything?
We're still in the spiritual dark ages

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 04/09/2008

I am in no position to judge anyone. As long as they love the kid, teach him/her about being a good, kind and compassionate person, it's no skin off my back...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/07/2008

Can someone with a better grasp of statistics graph the correlation between a poster's disgust and the post's spelling and grammar errors? I'm not suggesting a causal correlation, but perhaps there is a common cause...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 04/07/2008

They seem like nice enough people. I wish them and their little one the best.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 04/07/2008

I'm glad for them. But I don't understand why a ftm transgendered person is being recognized as a man. I mean, socially it's polite to say their whatever gender they want, but a clitoris is a clitoris and a penis is a penis.

They are a gay couple, and she is one of the first transgendered ftm person to carry her baby. That's the important thing.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 04/07/2008

I'm saddened but not surprised at the lack of vision from the majority of these blogs. Sexuality and identity have and will always be up for grabs.. depending on an individuals creativity and imagination. Diverse expression and societies ability to accept and hopefully embrace differences should be of paramount importance. It's that slippery slope of narrowly defining human experience that leads to cultural fascism.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 04/07/2008

Most ugly thing I have ever read, and a sin.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 04/06/2008

whos fatherfromthis human??

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 04/07/2008

Hey, good for them! Congratulations! Hope all goes well with the pregnancy and may they have a healthy, happy baby girl. They obviously badly want this child. They seem like nice folks. I wish them all the very best!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 04/06/2008

SICK PEOPLES, SHE IS WOMN NOT MAN!! becuse u cut ur boob mean u ar not MAN , this human still MAN, MAN NOT PREGENANT!! media spin

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 04/07/2008

"Dude looks like a lady"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 04/06/2008

Thomas as Tracy looked a lot hotter than Thomas as Thomas.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 04/06/2008

1st she says, I don"t feel like a woman, I want 2 b a man then says "I"m a man, I feel like man, I don"t associate at all with being a woman but I'll keep my uterus just in case", NOW she says having a baby is not a male or female feeling. Its TOTALLY a female feeling & U desire it BECAUSE YOURE A FEMALE. How dare U try 2 speak 4 men, U are not a man just because U have a huge clitoris. I could sew wings on and cut off my legs but I wouldn"t be a bird I"d be a freaky legless chick who sewed wings on her back & U ma"am are a woman with a huge clitoris and a beard - your partner is still a lesbian & U are delusional if U think this fiasco is normal. & now U get on TV & hawk this psychotic life as though it was born of love and not selfishness lust & greed. America has lost its friggin mind. As soon as U allow people to CHOOSE what sex they want 2 B instead of dealing w/ who they really are, U allow confused unstable people like this 2 take it to a level like this & open the door for the next freak who wants to kick it up a notch and have a baby w/ a dog. I pray 2 God that child can somehow find normalcy & sanity N that

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 04/06/2008

Hehehe... There are so many alarming things about your post that I really don't know where to even begin...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/06/2008

Okay, I take back what I said in my other comment. Ignorance wins again.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 04/06/2008

Please explain how she is ignorant, rather than just call names.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 04/06/2008

1) Sie makes the assumption that trans people are confused and unstable. That majority of the trans population would say that they have become more stable in being able to present and be recognised for what they feel is the most appropriate gender identity for their needs. This isn't always true; for example, Kate Bornstein had SRS but still doesn't identify within the gender binary.
2) To want a child isn't a desire exclusive to females. People from all gender and sexual identities - clearly - want children. Thomas isn't the first transman to have a baby. Pat Califia's former partner, Matt Rice, had a child, and they considered themselves to have had a relationship between two gay males.
3) Calling anyone abnormal for their lifestyle choices and expression of such is ignorant. Sie makes the remark that Thomas has no right to speak for men, but I wonder sie realises hir remarks are similarly insensitive to Thomas' experience. It is difficult to understand trans life from a cisgendered perspective, but if the effort to even attempt to educate oneself is absent, I am prone to perceive hir as ignorant.
4) Is commentary really necessary re: having a baby with a dog? Typical post-hoc argument.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 04/07/2008

Why are you so angry and hostile? Do you feel insecure about your own sexuality? I'm a straight man who has been married to the same woman for almost 39 years but I don't find this story threatening at all. And, BTW, I also happen to live in Bend, Oregon, hometown of the Beaties.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 04/06/2008

This 'pregnant man' ~ Thomas Beatie ~ is certainly outside the range of what's considered normal male/female in our society ... but that doesn't mean he's a freak or scary (as some say). He could end up being one of the most loving, caring, nurturing father (or mother) figures around. I think, we ought to leave this couple alone, and let them be the family they so desire ... & have a right to be.

Kelli

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/06/2008

*applaud* Well said, though I think once they broke their story to The Advocate, any hope of being left alone kind of went down the tubes. I wonder if they anticipated this much frenzy.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 04/07/2008

So it's her/his solemn duty to educate the masses about pregnancy and the trans gendered. I don't find it so wondrous that someone with a uterus got pregnant. Oprah needs to stop stoking her/his ego. Being pregnant with a mustache doesn't make you some miraculous all knowing being whose story demands to be disseminated for days and days. Enough already.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 04/06/2008

Seriously, just look at my Romanian aunt. She's alway pregnant and her beard's thicker than mine.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 04/07/2008

I don't see what all the hoopla is about. I don't understand why so many people feel so threatened by what this woman has chosen to do to her own body. It's not like she did it to them.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 04/06/2008

It's not her/his body it's god's body, just loaned to him/her sinful.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 04/06/2008

There is no god and our bodies are not any god's property -- or yours.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 04/06/2008

Well said.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 04/07/2008

I thought the show was excellent. I loved what Oprah said at the end that 50 years from now our society will be evolved enough to not judge people for being different, and the audience applauded when she praised them for their courage. Oprah of all people should know. Back in the 1980s when Oprah and Donahue were the only people putting gays on TV, everyone was freaked out and disgusted but after 22 years of Oprah and copy-cat shows like Ricki Lake, Jerry Springer & Jenny Jones, being gay is totally cool to the younger generation.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 04/06/2008

I disagree with your premise. I doubt that the entire younger generation is "totally cool" with being gay in the first place, but those who are more tolerant likely did not adopt that position by watching freak shows like Springer, Jones, and Lake. As for TheBigO, who the heck anointed her as Guru? I remember her humble beginnings on local Baltimore tv and, while I applaud her success, I can't stand her or her position as TrendsetterInChief. Please think about this a big more deeply. Perhaps some in the younger generation are more tolerant because more gay people are out now and almost everyone realizes they have friends, relatives, and/or coworkers who are not straight.

Oh, and by the way, these two people may or may not have started out as gay. I don't care enough about them to research when/how they met and why they've made the decisions they've made.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/07/2008

I watched this trainwreck and wondered why this he/she would go along with being pg? Why go on national tv and tell this story?? I just don't get this whole story?? You state that you did n't feel you where born in the wrong body, you state that being pg isn't about being a woman?? Hello, in my book it's all about being a woman. You say it's just a process. Well you needed the reproduction organs of a woman to make this possible. Why go public??? So if you aren't a man or a woman, what are you???

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 04/06/2008

He didn't say that being pregnant was not about being a woman; he said that the desire to have children is a human desire, not exclusively a woman's desire. As a father I can attest that he is right.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 04/06/2008

You make some really insightful, open-minded, and compassionate comments, dartagnan.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 04/07/2008

chill out! if you dont like it, dont watch. this doesnt affect you in any way.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 04/06/2008

There are three components that constitute one's sexual make-up. The sex of your brain - what sex you identify as, the sex of your body, and the gender(s) that you are attracted to. These three components exist in every combination. Thomas has a male brain in a female body and he is attracted to women - one woman in particular. It's very brave of this couple to tell their story. I hope they have a very healthy little girl and a very happy family.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 04/05/2008

"There are three components that constitute one's sexual make-up. The sex of your brain - what sex you identify as, the sex of your body, and the gender(s) that you are attracted to. These three components exist in every combination."

Thank you! Thank you thank you thank you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 04/07/2008

Man, the vitriol aimed at this person is what's really disgusting. Who the fuck are you people to judge HIM? Yeah, to us "normal" people it's weird, but who are we to say what's normal.

This person's happy now, and they weren't before. They're not hurting you, and if the story grosses you out, change the fucking channel. As long as he isn't undergoing hormone therapy, or anything else that would jeopardize the health of his child, then good for him if he can still get pregnant.

And good for him for having the balls(poor choice of words, i know) to go public with his story. I think it's a good thing any time the issue of gender as a social construct is raised in the MSM, even Oprah.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 04/05/2008

Damn! I've been trying to grow a better beard for 30 years and can't get it to come in as thick as his -- and that's not saying much.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/05/2008

This is such a weird, creepy story. This is a person who wanted to be a man but also still have children so he/she kept the reproductive parts? Who is counselling this person?
Too bad that batboy tabloid folded this type of story was their thing.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 AM on 04/05/2008

This whole story is bizarre.
First of all she"s a she. You take testosterone to get a beard and muscles, and hairy legs, and then get knocked up because you still have all the woman plumbing.
Then you let People magazine give you some money, and it hits you that this could be the deal of the decade.
I swear the old women Frankenstein is hooked up with thought the same thing even before the People magazine deal, and figured "what"ve I got to lose, maybe we can laugh all the way to the bank."
And what"s up with Oprah? Is she that starved for material? The people clapping in the audience were right in sync with the applaud prompt.
Mindless much?
Holy Moly, think of the poor kid as it goes through life, it"s poor mind will be blown. I feel really bad for the child.
This whole thing makes a John Waters movie look like a boring documentary. Whoever said the truth is stranger than fiction should"ve been around to see this charade.
Yikes!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 04/04/2008

It's a woman, not a man and I wish the media had enough sense to stop pushing this BS story.

My family recently had some houseguests from Australia. My wife has been friends with them for years and it's nice to see them when they visit America. One of them talk me that Australians think Americans are all idiots because the biggest view they have of our country and people is Jerry Springer. This story is almost as bad.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 04/04/2008