Obama: Repeal of "Don't Ask" Possible

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NEDRA PICKLER | April 10, 2008 08:54 AM EST | AP

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Democratic president hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., makes remarks at Great Valley High School in Malvern, Pa., Wednesday, April 9, 2008. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama says if elected president he won't require that his appointees to the Joint Chiefs of Staff support allowing gays to serve openly in the military.

The Democratic presidential front-runner favors repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays, which was instituted during the Clinton administration. He said his priority for the Joint Chiefs will be that they make decisions to strengthen the military and keep the country safe, not their position on the policy.

"I would never make this a litmus test for the Joint Chiefs of Staff," Obama said in an interview with The Advocate, a gay newsmagazine.

"But I think there's increasing recognition within the Armed Forces that this is a counterproductive strategy," he said. "We're spending large sums of money to kick highly qualified gays or lesbians out of our military, some of whom possess specialties like Arab-language capabilities that we desperately need. That doesn't make us more safe."

The Advocate provided The Associated Press with excerpts of the interview, posted on its Web site Thursday.

The interview comes after Obama was criticized by gay advocates for not speaking to the gay media. The Philadelphia Gay News last week ran a large blank space on its front page next to an interview with Hillary Rodham Clinton to highlight that he did not talk to the publication.

"The gay press may feel like I'm not giving them enough love, but basically all press feels that way at all times," Obama told The Advocate. He said he's frequently spoken out against homophobia and in support of gay rights.

Asked what he could reasonably accomplish for the gay community as president, Obama said he can "reasonably see" repeal of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy as well as signing legislation to ban workplace discrimination against gays. He said he'd like transgendered people to be covered by the law, but thinks it would be tough to get such legislation through Congress.

Obama also said he's interested in ensuring that same-sex couples in civil unions get federal benefits.

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-Separate but equal "civil unions"
-Repeal of "don't ask, don't tell "with what in its place?
-signing ENDA - what has he done to move it forward as a Senator?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 04/14/2008

I do find it odd and offensive for those who have posted to obviously try to bring Obama to task for something he did or did not say that you wanted him to say. He said what he said and he meant what he said. He made no promises like others have and he didn't let thpse asking the questions to lead him into a place he should not have to defend. I understood him to say he is not homophobic and he is willing to overturn the bane of the military the don't ask don't tell that Bill Clinton thought would save his ass when it came up. Barack is correct that many gays want to be a part of the military and to not be made to suffer for their choices. I am also angered by those of you who have chosen to bring him to task about bigotry. Do you really honestly believe that he as a black man does not know bigotry? Racism? What do the gays and lesbians suffer from that the black population has not suffered before you and still suffer today? He was honest and said his truth and with the lies Hillary tells anyone who considers her your supporter and friend should think again for she supports and honors only what she believes will further her ambitions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 04/14/2008

I'm an Obama girl, and I do appreciate his honesty in his homophobic hesitation to fully embrace The GLBT Community.

"Barack is correct that many gays want to be a part of the military and to not be made to suffer for their CHOICES."

Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals and Transgenders do not "CHOOSE" their orientations. But SADLY all too often, the GLBT Community must either "choose" DISHONESTY (in the closet), or DISCRIMINATION (out of the closet).

"He was honest and said his truth".

Yet we can only HOPE that under President Obama's leadership, societal sentiments and sanctimoniously sexual sensitivities will CHANGE...thus allowing Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals & Transgenders to "hold these truths to be self-evident, that THEY are created EQUAL, that THEY are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable RIGHTS, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".

OBAMA '08!
HOPE & CHANGE!

Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 04/14/2008

Wow, you can just feel his discomfort in his responses! This is certainly a case of too little, too late. We really have to start thinking about how poorly this guy and his campaign have handled the very SLIGHT criticism he has endured so far in his career. Remember, the lazy media doesn't only have a crush on the messiah from Illinois, but also on John McCain. When the Republican slime machine turns its attention to defining Senator Obama, which boyfriend will the fickle press choose, and how will Obama and his campaign handle it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 04/13/2008
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As a San Franciscan, I am still amazed that Obama will not be photographed with our handsome, straight, yet gay-friendly mayor Gavin Newsom.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lane-hudson/obama-snub-still-rankles-_b_85077.html

This man, Newsom, has done more for civil rights that nearly anyone I can name in recent years. The lack of willingness of Obama to even be seen with him smacks of severe homophobia. It is funny how people speak about Obama being an elitist like a San Francisco Democrats, but I strongly disagree. This snub is considered seriously uncool where I am...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 04/13/2008

SERIOUSLY: Change this misleading headline. He conducted the interview with the Advocate BEFORE the Philly Gay News criticized him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 04/12/2008
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Seems to me that what he was saying is that he supports equal rights in the military and otherwise. Obama is telling the truth when he says what he feel is possible and not possible to change. If he were pandering, he would say "yes, I'll introduce this or that"; he is telling the unfortunate and bigoted truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/12/2008

Wow.
Talk about being out of touch with America.
Just like Clinton, he's throwing himself on THIS issue right out of the gate.
What about the economy?
And global warming?
Gonna make any promises there, or are the little people you care nothing about going to live in the streets when they don't have jobs, waiting for the giant tidal waves from global warming to kill them?
You know, those gun-toting Christians you sneer at.
Doofus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 04/12/2008
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Did you even read the article?
I would hardly call having the Gay Media having to beg him for an interview "throwing himself on this issue"
Obviously you havent been paying much attention and dont read alot, he's said much about the economy and global warming.
If anyone sneers at gun toting Christians its the rethuglicans who fooled them into voting for Bush pretending all their closet perverts had family values.
Maybe if we put it in 30 sec. sound bites you would understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 04/13/2008


We are GOOD people in Pennsylvania. Not gun-toting-mex-hating-xenophobic-church-crutching-frustrated-bitter-hicks unfairly protrayed by this arrogant senator from Illinois. Yes, like the rest of America, we are experiencing the effect of bad economy, high fuel cost, high cost of living and unemployment. Yes we struggle but inspite that, we have unrelenting HOPE, and hardly desperate to resort to guns. We are civilized. We use our Church for divine guidance, and not crutches to our pain and frustrations. We are proud people.

At our expense, you used our burden to make a political point . The audacity ! And what HOPE are you spreading, Sir ? We welcome you with open arms, and in return you sold our dignity for 30 pieces of gold.

Did you swayed the Californians as our expense ? Are we equivalent to 30 piece of gold, a negotiable instrument to pander you kind of HOPE ? Did you really need to insult us, and parade our struggle just to garner votes. How dare you put as down.

Shame on you - an arrogant-self-serving-pandering-Judas. How dare you Senator ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 04/12/2008
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as a lifelong CA Dem., I know how you feel to be constantly stereotyped. For those of us who pour so much money into Dem Campaigns, and barely ever have our vote counted, and then be called elitists, it's frustrating. But I hope you took the time to listen to the full context of Obama's words. He is saying that you PA folk are bitter and frustrated. We all are. It's time we all acknowledge the truth and start talking like adults. I cannot say that I know any folks from PA, but I can assume that you all are as pissed off as we are here in So Cal. We need to focus on turning this country around and getting on our feet again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 04/12/2008

You're very sensitive, Ang. I can tell. I'm sure The Clintons will take good care of you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 04/12/2008
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Gee ang, Bitter? Perish the thought. Your name and comment say volumes.
Obama is still telling the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 AM on 04/13/2008
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As a NW Pa denizen I understood exactly what he was saying.
Your outrage should be pointed at the politicians who have sold your jobs down the river
(and Billary is still trying to send more to Columbia) for their 30 pieces of silver.
If you think McCain with his 8 homes or Billary with their millions care about you then go ahead and vote for them.
You were probably fooled twice before, once in 2000 and again in 2004.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/13/2008

you sound bitter,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 04/13/2008

For a little "fun," let's play fill in the blank.

Senator Obama recently capped off a 40-day tour appearing with a trio of notoriously anti-___________bigots.

This trio of notoriously anti-___________________bigots recently likened_________________to murderers and prostitutes.

Unfortunately.....because of Senator Obama's association with this trio of anti-_________________bigots....this has forced him to drop out of the race.

Now...here's a list of choices to fill in the blanks (pick one from the list & fill in all the blanks with what you picked):

Jewish
Muslim
Catholic
Protestant
Christian
White
Black
Hispanic
Asian
Italian
Irish
Polish
Arab
German
Women
Men
Senior Citizens
Gay & Lesbian

Unfortunately, it's ONLY the last choice on the list that doesn't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 04/11/2008

Huh? I'm sure it sounded clever in your head, but seriously...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 04/11/2008

Agreed.....maybe a little too cutesy....but my first point is that NO other group out there is required to sit back and accept the same bigotry that gays & lesbians are required to stomach. And...I find this patently unfair.

Do you disagree?

And my second very important point is that Senator Obama knew WAY better, his actions actually just reinforced that gays & lesbians should sit back and be tolerant of such bigotry.

He'll accept anti-gay bigots into his big tent (especially when this helps him with anti-gay voting blocs....for eg.....think many black southern evangelicals). Correct?

But what about anti-black bigots? or what about anti-muslim bigots? or what about anti-asian bigots?

Are these bigots as readily and easily accepted into his big tent?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 04/11/2008
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Truer than most on this site want to believe. Nice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 04/12/2008


Go Obama - more flip flops than a tourist gift shop on Daytona Beach.

Read the article -- he proposed TWO opposing positions on Don't Ask Don't Tell.

"If I'm president I will keep Don't Ask Don't Tell in place, then again I might repeal it."

Does anyone notice this speaking out both sides of the Obama mouth habit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 04/11/2008
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It's so that people on each side of the fence can hear him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 04/12/2008

Unlike the soundbites uttered by other candidates, Obama's policies sometimes require a careful reading to unerstand them correctly.

Obama provided a grown up answer to a question that invited him to pander, which he didn't do. Don't ask, don't tell is a military policy and he very plainly said that repeal of the policy would not be a prerequisite when appointing military leaders and advisors. This is not what you as a lesbian feminist (presumably) wanted to hear, but his telling you what you wanted to hear regardless of what he would actually do would have been pandering.

He did not reverse himself when he said that he thought that these same military leaders and advisors recognize the need to increase the armed forces and that they might be willing to reconsider the policy in the interest of recruiting and maintaining a high qualtiy fighting force. He did _not_ say that he would repeal it single handedly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 04/12/2008
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I would love to hear Obama stand in support of equal rights for homosexuals, to include marriage. I just do not understand how anyone can, in good conscience, claim otherwise.
Telling gay people they cannot marry
is no different from telling blacks or women they cannot vote.
It's really time to turn this corner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 04/11/2008

or telling inter-racial couples they cannot marry which was the law until relatively recently.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 04/12/2008
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I don't care what homosexuals do with each other, but allowing them to serve so openly in the military will only hurt the military. I've seen the chaos personally. You assume that everyone will just adjust with it and move on. Wishful thinking. CIVILIAN society still hasn't adjusted to gays being so open. Do you honestly think that the type of American who considers military service will feel comfortable or confident with that. The mayhem that will ensue will only disrupt organizations that depend upon the discipline and cohesiveness of its members to function. Like it or not, the gay lifestyle is still,at the very least, an oddity in the eyes of most Americans (like Obama). A Marine or Soldier doesn't want to have to question whether or not his fellow serviceman/woman has the courage to risk his/her life to get the job done. Call it prejudice or call it ignorance, the military is not the place for this social experiment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 04/12/2008

What a ridiculous homophobic rant. Gay servicepeople are just as dedicated, courageous, and heroic as anyone else, perhaps more so, since they can't "screw around" like their hetero cohorts. Saying otherwise is just insulting, particularly as a former Air Force serviceman.

Oddity? Like anything in your own life is completely "normal"? The opinion is probably representing an older bigotted person, and typical heterosexual viewpoint, expecting that any hetero male is a love target for any homosexual. Good Grief! Most hetero men have nothing, absolutely nothing to fear as a sexual target. You ain't no model, baby. And, gays can find and stay with each other, if you're worried. You need to read all the arguments about why the military should not have been integrated back in 1948. And, the entry of women into the military battle positions is another. The arguments against it are just as ridiculous. Actually, culturally, they were a harder integration. Gay servicepeople come from the same cultural backgrounds as anyone else. That's what is the biggest shame for this country. Content of their character, not sexual preference, should determine their worth. All the arguments simply hide a bigotry that used to get black people lynched, still gets women raped, and gay people "fag-bashed" for just being who they are, not for what they have done. How progressive is that? Where's the outrageous indignation heard when the "n .... word is heard"? Being a "homo" or a "fag" is still an accepted epithets flung to hurt others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 04/12/2008
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Let's just trust Barack Obama on all scores. The more I read about and hear his thoughts on matters, the more I believe him to be the ticket for our floundering nation. This is a profoundly intelligent and cosmopolitan man and one we need badly in the White House. He understands so many nuances involving the various religions, social mores and cultures as a result of his international upbringing and background. No leader of the free world should be lacking in these qualities. I believe his tolerance is very genuine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/11/2008

eyah your right, Sure he lied to us in the past over and over again, and doesnt come clean to the public until he gets busted like the NAFTA thing and the WRIGHT thing and the POWERS thing and the GAY issue thing and like the GUN control thing.

can you please back up what you say

"He understands so many nuances involving the various religions" um ok HOW?

Like when he was accused of being a muslim and he said no I LOVE BABY JESUS, that shows real understands to so many nuances , lol

I believe his tolerance is very genuine.

what his tolerance of Hillary supporters and white people??? or do you mean the biasd media or his spending over 2 million in PA a week , or is it his tolerance of not counting FL and MI ,???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 04/11/2008
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i feel a lot more credit should be paid to the amazing job his mother did.
As a single Kansas teenaged mother, she demonstrated more courage than I can imagine.
Her open-mindedness and forward-thinking style is a great example for all of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 04/11/2008

Does the reluctance of the Obama campaign to make Obama available to the gay press..as reported in Politico earlier... have anything to do with the potentially explosive story of Larry Sinclair, and the Obama campaign's desire to avoid dealing with related questions?

This story has received no main stream press coverage, yet, but if there is any substance to it it will come out, and would be devastating to Obama in a General Election.

Sinclair seems like a bit of a nut to me, but then that would probably be a prerequisite for the activities he describes. Could you imagine the MSP sitting on this story if there were similar allegations, and a federal court case, involving McCain or Clinton?

I've read that the LA Times is one of those news organizations that has been working this story, but has been too afraid of the potential blowback after the NY Times handline of the McCain lobbyist story.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 04/11/2008

I wonder if we're yet to hear from Senator Obama....."Yes, it's all true......but I didn't inhale." (just kidding, just kidding)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 04/11/2008
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There is no merit or truth in this crap. I smell a neocon smear campaign in this. Swiftboaters to the max.
It is garbage . Period. That is why you do not see it in the mainstream press. If it had any truth at all to it somebody from the msm would have allready investigated it and reported on it, especially now that we are in full blown silly season.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 AM on 04/12/2008
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No coverage=no merit.
This garbage has been floating around a while. The evidence for Mr. Sinclair's assertion are questionable in the extreme. It smells to me like either A) a cover for a right wing smear conspiracy. or B) an attempt at blackmail gone awry. If there were merit in these assertions, the MSM would have uncovered it by now. Because despite the assertions of Clinton supporters, there has been no bias in the MSM, one way or the other. I know it seems this way due to the blind worship that seems to be endemic among the HRC crowd. But unbiased examination of the MSM coverage will show that this assertion is unfounded and just more campaign spin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 04/12/2008

Love that pictiure! Barry's probably swiveling his hips, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 04/11/2008
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This is inane. He was the first candidate to accept the invitation to the LOGO conference last year, THAT IS GAY MEDIA. Obama has already spoken to the gay media on several occasions, the whole argument was a lie.

Oh wait, what's this? Oh, it's the actual television footage with the HRCF saying he was the first one to accept the invitation.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wk_-VucELn4

He also has stronger positions on gay rights than Hillary Clinton. That is a well-documented fact going back years and which is easily found by going on, you guessed it, YOUTUBE.

At this point the chatter coming from the last vestiges of the Clinton crowd is little more than a last-ditch attempt to get one more lie out there.

If you disagree with my points, you are LYING. How do I know? Because I can see it for myself. Welcome to the information age.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 04/11/2008

And yet many gays will vote for a GOP candidate! Ask the gay supporters of the GOP why they choose to vote for a party that openly discriminates against their community.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 04/11/2008

Obama was first to accept the invite to the Logo debate (and should be commended)

Clinton was the ONLY candidate to accept the invitation to the Human Rights Campaign's Board Meeting and Equality Convention in March 2007.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSPxGmePSiA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/11/2008

Keep in mind this video of Hillary Clinton taking a question about LGBT youth was posted back in January:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4akuLhj1uZk&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 04/11/2008
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And yet, he doesn't want to speak to any gay media source directly. What's he hiding, I wonder. He loves gays, but doesn't want to get to close to any.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 04/12/2008
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