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Hillary At Martha's Vineyard: On Clinton, Guns, Elitism, And John Kerry

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April 14, 2008 03:26 PM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


Sen. Hillary Clinton hit hard at Barack Obama on Monday, asserting that his recent controversial Pennsylvania comments made him out of touch with religious folk and gun owners. She's even taken to touting her past experience duck hunting, and raising the sensitive subject of Obama's similarities to another Democratic pol who she says was viewed as elitist -- Sen. John Kerry.

In light of this, a reader tipped the Huffington Post off to an amusing passage from Sally Bedell Smith's book on the Clintons, "For Love Of Politics" -- amusing if only because it seemingly combines all of the issues noted above (the Clintons, guns, elitism, and John Kerry) into a single anecdote.

It is 1994, and Bill Clinton has just passed his landmark assault weapons ban - a huge victory for gun control advocates but legislation that caused consternation among some congressional Democrats, who worried it would come back to haunt them in the midterm election. With the bill signed, the first couple retreats to Martha's Vineyard for a ten-day, rent-free stay at a posh estate, which includes a sailing excursion with James Taylor and -- you guessed it -- Sen. Kerry, while Bill plays rounds of golf and fudges his score.

Here's the passage:

But in defiance of the National Rifle Association, Bill insisted on including a ban on assault weapons that some Democrats worried could hurt them in the midterm contests. [Chief of Staff Leon] Panetta and congressional leaders negotiated all night on Friday the nineteenth and throughout the following day until they struck the final deal. The House passed the thirty-billion-dollar bill on Sunday, August 21, and the Senate followed four days later. Bill had won, but as usual the victory was more fraught than it needed to be.


The wrangling over the bill had delayed the Clinton family's second Martha's Vineyard vacation. When they finally arrived at the island on the twenty-sixth, they enjoyed more generous accommodations than the Spartan McNamara house, where they stayed the previous summer. This time they were guests of Democratic contributor Richard Friedman, a Boston real-estate developer, and once again they paid no rent for their ten-day stay. Friedman's twenty-acre Oyster Pond estate featured a spacious nineteenth-century shingled house, hammocks, horses, a pet pig, and a guest cottage, where Bill could retreat to work and read.

Bill and Hillary easily resumed their favorite vacation routines. They bought stacks of books at the Bickerton & Ripley bookstore in Edgartown and took sailing excursions with singer James Taylor and Senator John Kerry. After several rounds of golf, Bill told reporters he had shot an eighty, which immediately raised eyebrows. That August, the press began to focus on Bill's liberal interpretation of golf rules, especially his frequent use of mulligans - not only off the tee but on the fairway and around the green.

This passage has little relevance to the debate about what Obama said. But leveling the charge that Obama is in the same "elitist" mode as John Kerry, when Clinton herself has traveled in those very circles, is an irony worth noting.

 
 

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- halyscomet See Profile I'm a Fan of halyscomet

Bill and Hill - a true Working Class vacation, huh?

Hypocrites...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 04/20/2008
- ropadopa See Profile I'm a Fan of ropadopa

I'll say it again, Hillary loses the nomination, announces her retirement as the Senator from NY because NY no longer serves her purpose. Then she moves to Martha Vineyard, goes on the board of the Carlyle Group never to be heard from again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 04/19/2008
- LondonTownNY See Profile I'm a Fan of LondonTownNY

HIllary's "Elitism" does not allow her to see that the vast majority of thinking Americans know that (a) Hillary is a Lesbian , (b) Bill & Hillary's marriage is a power sharing arrangement (c) Hillary does not care who Bill sleeps with and (d) Hillary's public displays of disappointment during the Lewinsky scandal were but crocodile tears designed to sway women on the left side of the bell curve (e) she remains married to Bill rather than coming out of the closet because she feels it would doom her politically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/18/2008
- robeson See Profile I'm a Fan of robeson

Hillary's epiphany on guns is post Monica, so it could be honest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 04/16/2008
- Teritt See Profile I'm a Fan of Teritt

It seems 'elitism' is becoming as hard to define as 'Victory in Iraq' - no one agrees on exactly what it means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 04/16/2008
- ProfEvil See Profile I'm a Fan of ProfEvil

It is almost idiotic for Madame Clinton to think that by her calling Mr Obama and elitist, people will not quickly look at her records.
She seems to be the one that is obviously out of touch and certainly bears the mark of an elitist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 04/15/2008
- JiminNC See Profile I'm a Fan of JiminNC

All you hard working folks in PA, your plane will arrive this afternoon for your week long trip to Martha's Vinyard ... really, compliments of the Clintons because they want to share their 109 million dollars with people like them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 04/15/2008
- TruthBeTold4us See Profile I'm a Fan of TruthBeTold4us

I didn't grow up in a wealthy Republican household in Park Ridge, Illinois. I didn't have fond childhood memories of going in my father's Lincoln town car for a 2 week vacation each summer at a lake cottage in PA. I didn't get to take ballet and tennis lessons. I wasn't raised as Hillary claimed in her bio Living History, "raised with every advantage."

I didn't get to go to Wellesley, my parents didn't have the money. I didn't get to attend Harvard Law school either. Nor was one of my first jobs out of school working on a Watergate committee. My spouse and I didn't get to take a honeymoon trip to Acapulco.

I didn't move to Arkansas and almost immediately get a job at a college, then a prestigious law firm thanks to my husband's connections. I wasn't asked to serve on the board of Wal-Mart. I didn't make $109 million since Bush has been in office. Don't own a multi million dollar home or vacation home in the Bahamas.

I am a true working American. I worry about paying the bills, about what the recession is doing to my future, about the value of my home dropping almost monthly. I worry about health care, social security and what is happening to the middle class in this country.

Hillary Clinton is about as far from being a middle class American as you can get. Hillary Clinton and John McCain are the rich elitists in this campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 04/15/2008
- Roshi98 See Profile I'm a Fan of Roshi98

All this and you still fail to demonstrate how ANY of this proves Hillary is an "elitist". Worse still, you say nothing about how Obama ISN'T elitist, leading me to believe you think that he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/18/2008
- ginnypoo See Profile I'm a Fan of ginnypoo

You seem bitter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 04/16/2008
- madridwontgodown See Profile I'm a Fan of madridwontgodown

This article is bullshit. From a neutral point, Barack better deliver because the effort put through on this article alone warrants him to be able to walk on water.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 04/15/2008
- whiteboyblues See Profile I'm a Fan of whiteboyblues

I thought Al Gore lost the election because Hillary wouldn't give a blowjob to Bil... of course the Supreme Court did kind of steal it from Al Gore. Regardless the Clintons helped Al Gore lose the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 04/15/2008
- 2liveNdie See Profile I'm a Fan of 2liveNdie

She tried blaming the Elitist title to why Gore didn't win in 2000 when we all know it had a lot to do with the Lewinsky scandal in which much of America had had enough of a scandal riddled cabinet!!!! SHAME ON YOU HRC!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 04/15/2008
- Fabienne See Profile I'm a Fan of Fabienne

Despite the fact that I have little respect for the Clintons and believe the Lewinsky scandal, though a total scam, did do damage to Gore's campaign, I must state that he ran a horrible campaign, attempting to be what he wasn't and attempting to change himself after every criticism of the press. Also, the media treated him shabbily and gave Bush a free ride. And, of course, he won Florida but Jeb fixed it so that wouldn't be known. We can't lay Gore's loss totally at the feet of the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 04/16/2008
- Vern58 See Profile I'm a Fan of Vern58

Yeah Right- Just one of the guys! This woman needs to be put on display for what she really is- a fraud

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 04/15/2008
- lowry99 See Profile I'm a Fan of lowry99

so they went on a vacation and they were elitist because they didn't pay rent when they stayed at a private residence? And they're elitist because some people who sail invite them out (do you think it was Bill doing anything)? And they're elitist because Bill plays golf and takes tons of mulligans instead of having played enough to get an honest 80?

Wow. You reach.. You really reach. Even now Bill would rather drink beer at a razorbacks game than go windsurfing, and your boy Barack bowls less than my 8 year old cousin. he doesn't know what Yuengling is! who's elitist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 04/15/2008
- Fabienne See Profile I'm a Fan of Fabienne

My husband doesn't know what Yuengling is either and he drinks beer every Monday night when he bowls with his league. He's an Obama supporter, by the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 04/16/2008
- chery See Profile I'm a Fan of chery

LOL..... And your good buddy Bill told you this? Wow... you know a former president personally, and you hang out on huff? Amazing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 04/15/2008
- SFkid See Profile I'm a Fan of SFkid

Um, your not gonna find Joe Schmo sailing off the coast of Martha's Vineyard with James Taylor and John Kerry. This is the president your talking about and I believe that by being in the most powerful position in the world, your kind of an elitist in some ways. Your not so likely to talk to that homeless person at the bus stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 04/15/2008
- richcpl See Profile I'm a Fan of richcpl

She's just like Bush: Yesterday never happened and to the hell w/ tomorrow. The important thing is to win today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 AM on 04/15/2008
- anghiari See Profile I'm a Fan of anghiari

Richcpl,

here's what reagan really thought about Dubya

Here is an excerpt from the a new book, the REAGAN DIARIES and it is an actual quote that
Reagan wrote about George "W" in his diaries, recently edited by
author Doug Brinkley and published by Harper Collins.


"A moment I've been dreading. George brought his n'er-do-well son
around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the
political one who lives in Florida; the one who hangs around here
all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already
almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley
over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a
contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work."


From the REAGAN DIARIES------entry dated May 17, 1986.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 04/15/2008
- mlaiuppa See Profile I'm a Fan of mlaiuppa

Irony noted, but not necessary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 04/15/2008
- abigail1 See Profile I'm a Fan of abigail1

Clinton's attitude toward the rules of golf seems to be very similar to his wifes attitude toward the rules of primary elections!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 04/15/2008
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