David Brooks Praises ABC, Debate, Because He Lacks The Good Sense God Gave A Box Of Tulip Bulbs, Apparently


First Posted: 04-17-08 10:34 AM   |   Updated: 04-25-08 05:12 AM

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New York Times' columnist David Brooks appears to be one of the few people nonsensical enough to actually laud ABC's mix of jive-ass wankery and lack of conviction that was on display in last night's absurd debate. Why am I not surprised? If being out-of-touch were a clinical contagion, Brooks would file his columns from a lead-lined, underground vault at the Centers For Disease Control.

First, Democrats, and especially Obama supporters, are going to jump all over ABC for the choice of topics: too many gaffe questions, not enough policy questions.

And so they should! No Democrat I know has been wandering around in some sort of fugue, hoping that someone might finally answer that riveting, all-important question, "Does Reverend Jeremiah Wright love America?" Brooks is, perhaps, sidling up alongside a good point in invoking "Obama supporters" specifically. I felt last night's showing was the "Worst Debate Ever" because both candidates were treated poorly. When they trotted out that Pennsylvania voter to ask Hillary Clinton about Tuzla with the admonishment that she'd lost her vote, I did a full-body cringe! It was pointless melodrama deployed to cover up the moderator's own lack of cojones. Certainly, Obama's most earnest fans are all a-kvetch today, but they should a) understand that this is a good time for Obama to be taking the lion's share of the chin music, because it's a good thing to have a little bit of scar tissue when you face McCain, and b) think more broadly - last night's debate was bad for the discourse, and bad for all Democratic voters.

After that graf, however, Brooks loses sight of anything that even resembles having a lick of sense, and he strains hard to manufacture that pure product of the empty-headed intelligentsia: a bon-bon of non-thought dressed up in masturbatory intellectual contortions.

Behold this paragraph, and tremble:

We may not like it, but issues like Jeremiah Wright, flag lapels and the Tuzla airport will be important in the fall. Remember how George H.W. Bush toured flag factories to expose Michael Dukakis. It's legitimate to see how the candidates will respond to these sorts of symbolic issues.

You know what, David? I would love it - love it! - if by November, the most pressing issues facing the Republic were some preacher in Chicago I'd never heard of until this year, a trip some politician's wife took a decade ago, and the way we accessorize our lapels. That would be, like the Pope's speech yesterday, awesome. Because that would mean we'd no longer be at war in Iraq, no longer be facing a terrorist threat out of Pakistan and Afghanistan, no longer be in the midst of about ten separate economic crises, New Orleans would be fully rebuilt, and the New York Times wouldn't be falling into an ad revenue abyss. But somehow I think this is not going to be the case.

"Remember" how Bush 41 toured flag factories? Really? That's the example on which you are going to pin your argument? It was a moment of substance-free political high-camp. The only people that think that responses to "these sorts of symbolic issues" are "legitimate" are the preening narcissists who believe that being the 7659th reporter to ask Hillary Clinton about Tuzla is some sort of achievement.

Brooks goes on the assail Clinton and Obama - for three paragraphs! - for making "pledges" on taxes and the Iraq War. But it was Gibson and Stephanopoulos who insisted on pledges, not the candidates!

Both promised to not raise taxes on those making less than $200,000 or $250,000 a year. They both just emasculated their domestic programs. Returning the rich to their Clinton-era tax rates will yield, at best, $40 billion a year in revenue.

Really? Show your math, please!

Nobody knows what the situation in Iraq will be like. To pledge an automatic withdrawal is just insane. A mature politician would've been honest and said: I fully intend to withdraw, but I want to know what the reality is at that moment.

Oh, dear. Are we not adults? Can it not be said that every voter can appreciate the fact that in life, sometimes, circumstances change, and plans have to be altered? Does Brooks actually believe that we need to receive instruction on this matter? I don't need Clinton and Obama to reassure me that they'll not cling, unflinchingly, to plans if it's been demonstrated that an alternative course will achieve a better outcome, because they are running against John McCain. If I wanted a President who's pledged to continue out the merry march to certain doom, I'd vote for him.

Brooks concludes by asserting that the Democrats have "an electability problem" and that the issues raised last night will continue to impact Obama in the fall. "The superdelegates cannot have been comforted by his performance," he says. Well, the evidence so far indicates this is not the case. The matters that Obama needs to convince superdelegates on are the same today as they were last week. If the superdelegates are anything like me, last night's debate should have only produced a wellspring of sympathy for both candidates. That Brooks was comforted by the performance of ABC News last night only suggests that he's the one with a "crushing" credibility problem.


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- cramos I'm a Fan of cramos 2 fans permalink

When Clinton gets the nomination why don't you OBs just start your own political party!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 04/20/2008

Even if she fails, I'd like to see at least two or three more parties. Both the Dems & Gopers have harmed this country because they believe the party is far more important than the nation and its citicizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 04/21/2008
- verlaine I'm a Fan of verlaine 4 fans permalink

David Brooks is paralyzed from the neck up. The NY Times has destroyed its reputation by employing this braindead windbag and his fellow stooge Bill Kristol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 04/20/2008
- Snowball I'm a Fan of Snowball 55 fans permalink
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I have little doubt that had Stephanopolis asked McCain the kind of questions this morning as he asked Obama and Clinton, Brooks would be howling about the Liberal Media and how George had still not given up his partisan ways since he was communications director for Bill Clinton. Of course he loved the debate, Brooks is a naked Republican partisan and habitual liar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 04/20/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

I don't know what all of the dust up is about. Candidates positions on the issues haven't changed. The issues have been discussed, their positions have been laid out in all of the vagueness. They continue to be non-commital to the details of anything...which, while irritating, is probably wise for a politician. They only stand to lose more voters by telling us what they really think.

The only NEW issues are those of personal character. The only new information is their response to those allegations. We've already had 5,000 debates of them not answering questions about issues, so let's move past it.

Truely, if no americans really care about the answers to character questions, then why is everyone so worked up about it? Nobody cares, what difference will it make? The alternative, of course, is that LOTS of people care. And that's why the questions keep getting asked, because lots of people want to know the answers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 04/20/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

i'm not worked up about anything except for the fact that i have no idea who we pay for a 2 trillion dollar war. AND... how do we compete with cheap labor in the rest of the world now that the genie is out of the bottle and we are losing our middle class jobs.

i am kinda worked up about that stuff.

but... flag pins? not really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 04/20/2008

It's not like there was nothing new to talk about. Bush and co admitted to discussing in detail the torture of prisoners, Hillary said no to Columbia free trade yet her top advisor and Husband have raked in hundreds of thousands in support of the deal add this to the fact that it tied in so nicely with the nafta-gate and the lies Hillary told the media in regards to Obama doing the ol' wink wink to the Canadians when it was actualy her own campaign. The fact that this was ignored by the last debate speaks VOLUMES about the loyalties of the "moderators".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 04/20/2008

Jason,

Shame running down my leg! I thought it was "All the Sense God gave an
ignorant Commode Float!" I stand corrected, you are kinder than I would have been.

I promise to do better next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 04/19/2008
- plutorage I'm a Fan of plutorage 12 fans permalink

If Hillary and Obama had already agreed on the 1/2 ticket after the Ohio primary weeks ago, they would be now preparing an onslaught of issues, plans, teams, etc. that would leave McCain in the dust complaining that nobody was paying attention to him.

Hillary would probably get her profile on the dime and her name on health care like roosevelt got his name on social security.

Probably we would now be discussing a new paradigm of leadership in which the veep's position, a constitutional one after all, is granted a far more vaunted importance. This would suck up pretty much all the oxygen in the republican campaing and leave discussion of lapel pins and mad preachers to the old fogies and retards who still had some interest in the republicans medieval platform.

Instead, here we are discussing the importance of the debate, a perfect platform for Brooks to bring up the importance of lapel pins. Don't say no. You are debating him. He is choosing the ground to fight on. Dems had the chance to grab the high ground but gave it to repubs. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/19/2008

Ignore him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 04/19/2008
- sa I'm a Fan of sa 15 fans permalink

i didn't see the debate,
but i read that someone
actually had the audacity
to ask if george w. bush
might find a place in their administration.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i read that barrack commented that he might invite bush sr.'s advice
on foreign policy issues.

the correct response would have been -
HHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA ...are you fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (vomiting)..........(more vomiting)............................................(a podium dive onto a "journalist")...........
(fisticuffs, more vomiting, more fisticuffs, more vomiting).........



why would a democrat EVER ask a republican war criminal
to serve in his or her administration?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the correct question should have been:

"will you seek to prosecute bush and his administrations for their crimes against
humanity and their crimes against the american constitution - that surmounts to
treason?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 04/19/2008
- Manx I'm a Fan of Manx 25 fans permalink

I'm wondering if David Brooks is a manic depressive. One day, he writes a giddy, glowing column about Obama, and the next, he's down on him. I'm beginning to think this has more to do with Brook's mood swings than about Obama.

At any rate, his latest column is one of the dumbest I've ever read in The New York Times. Brooks is much too elitist to know much about the working-man's reasons for voting for a particular candidate.
Brooks is insulting and condescending when he suggests that blue-collar workers will vote on the basis of Obama's bowling skills. I thought he was joking but he is dead serious.

According to Brooks, McCain has practically won the election. No serious pundit would ever reach that conclusion six months before the election and before Democrats had even nominated a candidate in the primaries.

Sometimes, I think he writes a provocative column just to see what readers' reaction will be. He wants to know if anyone is still reading his twaddle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 04/19/2008
- meta I'm a Fan of meta 3 fans permalink

Nah, he's just realized that Obama will be the nominee, so he's obliged to shift gears to McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 04/20/2008
- Exit I'm a Fan of Exit 10 fans permalink
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David Brooks is nothing more than Sean Hannity in a suit. Another hack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 04/18/2008
- nsc I'm a Fan of nsc permalink

Who appointed the painfully syncophantic David Brooks to be the elite interpreter of middle America to the rest of us? He panders to the people he pretends to be the spokesperson for. After this debate, I have had all I can take of bloated talking heads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 04/18/2008
- vincie I'm a Fan of vincie 2 fans permalink

DAVID BROOKS WROTE MANY NICE THINGS ABOUT OBAMA, WHEN OBAMA WAS FLYING HIGH. HE IS JUST SAYING THAT FINALLY THE MASK IS OFF AND WE SEE THE REAL OBAMA. HE LOOKED TERRIBLE IN THE DEBATE. HE DOESN'T LIKE ANYONE TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS THAT ARE NEGATIVE. I'M SORRY BUT YOU OBAMA PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WHINNING BECAUSE OBAMA LOOKED SO BAD. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL BE THE NOMINEE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT I CAN'T VOTE FOR HIM. HIS FRIENDS ARE ALL ANTI AMERICANS, WRIGHT, AYERS, EVEN HIS WIFE THAT SAID THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN HER ADULT LIFE THAT SHE WAS PROUD OF AMERICA. AND IN SF SAYING AMERICANS IN SMALL TOWN AMERICA CLING TO RELIGION AND GUNS, ANTI IMMIGRATION SO ON. MAYBE IF HE IS THE NOMINEE HE WILL WIN THE PRESIDENCY, BUT IN MY MIND I'M AFRAID TO TAKE THE CHANCE. WE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT OBAMA, ONLY HIS FRIENDS, THAT'S A NO BRAINER FOR ME.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 04/20/2008

David is Neocon Propagandist. Have you noticed the Neocons (NYT, Kristol, Krugman,etc) are having a fit. People are listening to Obama and getting wise to the lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 04/18/2008
- snesich I'm a Fan of snesich 27 fans permalink
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It's funny. David Brooks is the very image of the out-of-touch, wealthy, pompous, pretentious, know-it-all elitist. And he spends his time accusing other people of being what he clearly is himself, and then claiming it's a bad thing to be. Brooks would squirm if he ever had to spend five minutes with someone who actually works at a real job for a living.

Like George Will, these prissy little right-wing boys spend a lot of time apparently hating what they see in the mirror every day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/18/2008
- Querent I'm a Fan of Querent 69 fans permalink
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Which actually explains why they fuck up everything they touch, doesn't it. Self-hatred is not conducive to competency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 04/18/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 170 fans permalink

Exactly, and some many on the right are exactly that, yet the term "elitist" is so vivid a part of their lexicon. Brooks would wretch if he had to spend five minutes with an ordinary working person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/18/2008
- Binx101 I'm a Fan of Binx101 30 fans permalink
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Oh pah-leeze ... stop the whining. What is this elitist nonsense?

Pardon me a moment. -
Yes David ... feel free to help yourself to a brandy and cigar.

Where were we ? Ah yes, your assertions are absolutely false ... sorry pardon again.

Yes David, I know you want me to play snooker with you, but I'm currently blogging with some whining Liberals at the Hiffyton or Blithington or Somethington Post ... you know ... that little thingy that the Greek turncoat with very proper English name crushed that nice Drudge boy with.

Sorry are you still there ? Oh marvelous.
In any case, as I was saying ... We Neo Cons simply feel that if ... Oh blast !!! Yes David, I know you want to wear you top hat !!!!

I'm very sorry we'll have to continue this another time - Dinner is a 9 and I'm not even dressed yet ... Giles??? Giles ??? Help David and then come up and help me dress. George and Cokie shold be here any moment.

Binx101
The Almost Daily Binx
www.binx101.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 04/18/2008
- indyny I'm a Fan of indyny 2 fans permalink

This guy's credibility is nonexistent. He struggles to keep a straight face when spewing his "moderate" Republican bullshit on Newshour, seemingly astonished that anyone would even take him seriously - let alone pay him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 04/18/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 170 fans permalink

Yes, so true! And he always insists on interupting the other guest and getting in the last word. Brooks is a fraud! Networks must feel they must include his opinion or risk being labeled as "biased."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 04/18/2008
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 77 fans permalink
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For someone like Brooks, this is like pooping his undies.

No one can see it. But it smells. So he knows it's there - everyone else knows it there -- and until he fixes it - he will smell of it.

David Brooks - you need to change your poopy undies.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 04/18/2008
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