Clinton grinds out victory over Obama in Pennsylvania

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DAVID ESPO and BETH FOUHY | April 22, 2008 11:52 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., waves to supporters after winning the Pennsylvania primary in Philadelphia Tuesday, April 22, 2008. At right, former president Bill Clinton. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

PHILADELPHIA — Hillary Rodham Clinton ground out a gritty victory in the Pennsylvania primary Tuesday night, defeating Barack Obama and staving off elimination in their historic race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"Some counted me out and said to drop out," the former first lady told supporters cheering her triumph in a state where she was outspent by more than two-to-one. "But the American people don't quit. And they deserve a president who doesn't quit, either."

"Because of you, the tide is turning."

Her victory, while comfortable, set up another critical test in two weeks time in Indiana. North Carolina votes the same day, and Obama already is the clear favorite in a Southern state with a large black population.

"Now it's up to you, Indiana," Obama said at a rally of his own in Evansville after Pennsylvania denied him a victory that might have made the nomination his.

He criticized John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting, by name as offering more of the same policies advocated by President Bush. And he took aim at Clinton without mentioning her by name. "We can calculate and poll-test our positions and tell everyone exactly what they want to hear," he said. "Or we can be the party that doesn't just focus on how to win, but why we should."

In a campaign marked by increasingly personal attacks, Clinton was winning 55 percent of the vote to 45 percent for her rival with 94 percent counted in Pennsylvania.

A preliminary tabulation showed her gaining at least 52 national convention delegates to 46 for Obama, with 60 still to be awarded.

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That left Obama with 1,694.5 delegates, and Clinton with 1,561.5, according to the AP tally.

Clinton scored her victory by winning the votes of blue-collar workers, women and white men in an election where the economy was the dominant concern. Obama was favored by blacks, the affluent and voters who recently switched to the Democratic Party, a group that comprised about one in ten Pennsylvania voters, according to the surveys conducted by The Associated Press and the TV networks.

More than 80 percent of voters surveyed as they left their polling places said the nation was already in a recession.

A six-week campaign allowed time for intense courtship of the voters.

She showed her blue-collar bona fides one night by knocking down a shot of whiskey, then taking a mug of beer as a chaser. Obama went bowling in his attempt to win over working-class voters.

Clinton's win marked at least the third time she had triumphed when defeat might have sent her to the campaign sidelines.

She won in New Hampshire last winter after coming in third in the kickoff Iowa caucuses, and she won primaries in Ohio and Texas several weeks later after losing 11 straight contests.

Her victory also gave Clinton a strong record in the big states as she attempts to persuade convention superdelegates to look past Obama's delegate advantage and his lead in the popular vote in picking a nominee. She had previously won primaries in Texas, California, Ohio and her home state of New York, while Obama won his home state of Illinois.

Clinton projected confidence to the end of the Pennsylvania campaign, scheduling an election-night rally in Philadelphia. Obama signaled in advance he expected to lose, flying off to Indiana for an evening appearance even before the polls closed.

Flush with cash, Obama reported spending $11.2 million on television in the state, more than any place else. That compared with $4.8 million for Clinton.

The tone of the campaign was increasingly personal _ to the delight of Republicans and McCain, who has been gaining in the polls while the Democrats battle in primaries deep into the spring.

"In the last 10 years Barack Obama has taken almost $2 million from lobbyists, corporations and PACs. The head of his New Hampshire campaign is a drug company lobbyist, in Indiana an energy lobbyist, a casino lobbyist in Nevada," said a Clinton commercial that aired in the final days of the race.

Obama responded with an ad that accused Clinton of "eleventh-hour smears paid for by lobbyist money." It said that unlike his rival, he "doesn't take money from special interest PACs or Washington lobbyists _ not one dime."

Also to the delight of Republicans, the six-week layoff between primaries produced a string of troubles for the Democrats.

Obama was forced onto the defensive by incendiary comments by his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, then triggered controversy on his own by saying small-town Americans cling to guns and religion because of their economic hardships.

Clinton conceded that she had not landed under sniper fire in Bosnia while first lady, even though she said several times that she had. And she replaced her chief strategist, Mark Penn, after he met with officials of the Colombian government seeking passage of a free trade agreement that she opposes.

McCain campaigned in Youngstown, Ohio, during the day Tuesday, telling residents of the hard-hit steel town that free trade can help solve their problems.

"The biggest problem is not so much what's happened with free trade, but our inability to adjust to a new world economy," McCain said during a town hall-style meeting at Youngstown State University. McCain's message was something of a political gamble in an area where international trade agreements are not popular.

The remaining Democratic contests are primaries in North Carolina, Indiana, Oregon, Kentucky, West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota and Puerto Rico, and caucuses in Guam.

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David Espo reported from Washington.

PHILADELPHIA — Hillary Rodham Clinton ground out a gritty victory in the Pennsylvania primary Tuesday night, defeating Barack Obama and staving off elimination in their historic race for the Dem...
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When a group of children face some disharmony cause by single actor, they will often solve the problem this way: "Give the baby what he wants" and a "doever" or whatever ensues. Anybody will give a neighbor some flour if the neighbor asks in the middle of the night, just to get rid of him.

In the rare event that no presidential candidate receives a majority of the electoral votes, then the President is chosen instead by the House of Representatives, from the top three presidential vote-getters in the Electoral College; each state delegation in Congress casts one vote.

Democrats are on target to screw up because of Clinton's strategy. In order, to give the baby what she wants, let's let Hillary run in OH, NY, NJ, FL, MI, and in PA. Let Obama run everywhere else. There's no reason why the Democrats have to only run one candidate.

Let's throw this thing into the House, where she can make the ultimate SuperDelegate argument. Is there really something wrong with using the quasi-parliamentary procedure that's already in the Constitution?

"If he gets it into the House, a Democrat is going to win the presidency, because they have the votes pure and simple," said Mario Cuomo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

Here is the thing. There are no more big states and there are no more democratic must win states. There should be a mass exodus of superdelegates by now. Where are they? If this doesn't happen soon, what exactly is the justification for her to stay in?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 04/23/2008
- LBM I'm a Fan of LBM permalink
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With 99.44% reporting now, the Clinton lead is 9.2%, almost back to 10% now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 04/23/2008

"Because of you, the tide is turning."

This is why I can't even listen to Hillary's speeches anymore. According to Hillary the tide has been turning since New Hampshire. Turning right into a popular vote/delegate loss. Time to get real.

We've had 8 years of moving perpetually moving goal posts and a president who constantly says things that are completely out of touch with reality. We don't need 4 more years under the leadership of denial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 04/23/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 24 fans permalink
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With ALL the so-called unbiased MEDIA journalists, beating you down for 15+ months, you have shown them wrong.

I've seen some sad faced on MSNBC and CNN last night and this morning.

I thought Tim Russert, Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann were going to cry.

Now, they're "SUGGESTING" that she may be scheming to destroy Obama's chances, so she can run again in 2008.

They just wont let up.

CONGRATS, girlfriend.

Let's beat these mysoginistic cretons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

Can we please cut the mysoginistic cretons stuff. Bill Clinton sexually harassed a little girl. Her very marriage to him is a testament to mysogeny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 04/23/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Almost at 1,400,000 donors on the Obama site

People are going crazy over there. Almost 10,000 donors in less than 24 hours

This is a WIN for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 04/23/2008
- LBM I'm a Fan of LBM permalink
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Because $40 Million isn't enough? He doesn't need more money, he needs some better campaign strategy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/23/2008

We can quibble about percentage points and who has the most delegates and who is going to donate how much and to which campaign, but the absolute bottom line is . . . Obama cannot win in the Fall. It's either Hillary or McCain. Put the Kool-Aid down and inhale a double dose of reality. They are talking about it all over the tube. This site today is filled with nothing but rationalizations. Wake up and be a real democrat and realize that by supporting Obama you are electing McCain. Vote for Hillary!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 04/23/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Who says Clinton can win

I mean, u do know that the national average says she cant be trusted

You do know they say Obama is more electable

You do know he has gained the support of another Super

You do know he has more states, delegates, and popular vote right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 04/23/2008

I don't think so...the Republicans have doubled the national debt, and now McCain is talking about $650 billion per YEAR in tax cuts which will go to the wealthy and corporatio­ns...givin­g us exploding debt which will eventually result in the total collapse of the US dollar. He wants to continue a massively unpopular war in Iraq and has his sites set on Iran.

Obama supporters and Clinton supporters are polarized at the moment...but when it comes down to voting for or against the total destruction of the US economy, I don't think many of us will vote for McBush, even if we have to hold our nose a bit to vote for the Democrat.

I am an independent who has leaned Republican in the past, and no way McCain gets my vote...even if somehow the nomination goes to Clinton. We can't risk our children's future!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

As a fellow Ohio resident I can tell you in the southwest she gets killed. Without a huge turnout in the north, ie. black voters, she doesn't win here. I really think Ohio is going to be incredibly competitive but I'm not sure either of them win here. Columbus is a question mark though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 04/23/2008
- naturesway I'm a Fan of naturesway 12 fans permalink


PA made it very clear. Obama can not convince our Dem base that he is the best for the job. They rejected him outright. He is completely unelectable in Nov. Obama should drop out now for the sake of our party.
Hillary can and will win in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 04/23/2008

There must be a new and improved flavor of Kool-Aid out. I have never witnessed such a distortion of facts. Obamabots are sore losers. You Obamabots better get used to it because your candidate can't win in the Fall, so a vote for Obama in the primary is like a vote for McCain in the Fall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 04/23/2008

We're not sore losers. We lost PA. We expected to all along, since Clinton started out 30 points ahead, had support of Rendell and the majority of the establishment in that state, and PA has the oldest demographic behind FL in the country. This state was tailor made for her.

Clinton has lost many races also, but she doesn't give up! We don't give up either!

And by the way, we are still winning by a mathematically insurmountable margin. That is a fact, not an emotion. In fact, her mathematical chances actually got worse yesterday.

Not sore here.

Obama 08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 04/23/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 24 fans permalink
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Now it was "30" points ahead (LMAO).

You're funny.

Seems everyone on Obama's side are guilty of SPINITIS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 04/23/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 24 fans permalink
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Love the title.....­......"gri­nds out victory".

As if it were such a struggle.

Seems that the Obamacrats were grinding away, especially with the ratio of ADS THEY were THRUSTING upon the PA residents.

Too bad it didn't work for them.

Hillary will never be the darling of the HuffPost, and will just have to live with that.

Hopefully, though, if she wins the DEM Primary, they will support her then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 04/23/2008

Clinton BEATS McCain.
Obama TIES McCain.

Popularity, shmopularity.
It's all about the electoral college.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

Although I appreciate the headline, it was a good win, it she be followed by the caveat that she is now farther away from the nomination than she was before. The math only gets worse with each of the primaries. Now, finally the media, which has been oh so harsh and sexist, is reporting what everybody has known for a long time she can't catch Obama in pledged delegates. The populat vote is over as well but I imagine it will take the media another two weeks to report this. They allow Terry McCauliff to talk about Florida even though his case was weakened last night by the fact that a huge Hillary lead was tightened up by Obama actively campaigning in the state. However, even if Florida is granted to her, the math still doesn't add up for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 04/23/2008
- roncraw I'm a Fan of roncraw 7 fans permalink

You don't need math you need electibllity. In a poll 52 % of Hillary supporters won't vote for him.even if it goes dodwn to 10% he can't win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 04/23/2008

Hillary will get to work on that. She is already laying the groundwork, publicly saying no Democrat should vote for McCain "whoever the nominee is" because the differences between Obama and Clinton on issues are miniscule.

People are passionate for their candidate right now, but whoever wins, the other will throw their support behind the nominee and most of the party will come together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/23/2008

Please post the referenced poll. (CNN's exit polls last nite say quite different.)

I question the assertion. If anything, Hillary supporters will rally to the party to cut off a third Bush term. Can you say the same for Obamanistas?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

First of all, Al Gore and John Kerry would differ with you. Math is very important. Secondly if Hillary is truly the fighter she says she is, she will fight hard with her supporters for a democrat to win in November. Thirdly you do understand that the same holds true for Hillary. Without new voters and a huge black turnout, of course I neglect the tranformative power of the Clinton's to turn independants into Republicans and Republicans into right wing nuts, she loses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 04/23/2008

Well writ.

That's EXACTLY why the SD mechanism was invented.

www.electoral-vote.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

A fair point but any justification for the person actually losing by the math to win the nomination would be subjective. There is no history to the electoral state argument or the big state argument. Quite frankly, neither candidate has proven their absolute electabilty in the fall because it is impossible to prove objectively. There are indicators, predictors but they cut both ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 04/23/2008
- naewing I'm a Fan of naewing 4 fans permalink

Here is the link to Pennsylvania elections. As of a few minutes ago the margin was 8.5%.
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?ElectionID=27
Not double digits....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 04/23/2008
- roncraw I'm a Fan of roncraw 7 fans permalink

If fudging numbers makes you happy.Knock yourself out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 04/23/2008

You think the STATE OF PA officials are fudging the numbers in Obama's favor now? With Rendell in charge? Not likely....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

What is your deal with math? Numbers don't lie, 8.6 is the margin as of right now. If winning with a ten point margin is what you want to believe in the face of the actual vote count than knock yourself out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 04/23/2008

Why can't networks do math?

Your link has it 54.3% vs 45.7% with 99.34% reporting. That's an 8.6% gap.

Maybe they were talking about two SIGNIFICANT digits? The 8 and the 6. Heh.

CNN has it 55-45 with 99% reporting at this moment.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/dates/index.html#20080422

Either way, this is a huge win for Hillary, spin aside.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 04/23/2008
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A double-digit win is what all the pundits were calling a blow-out that will change the race. Hillary got it and now they're back-peddling to try and make it seem less tremendous a victory. This is huge for Hillary. Obama could've won, the polls even had him ahead at one point. He lost this state because after sizing up both candidates the people saw who was the best choice for the job. 17% choose in the last week after the debates, Hillary won 6 of 10 of those votes. Those were the ones who really thought long and hard about it, and that is the way the rest of the country will go in November. The people who know both candidates and are most objective will choose Hillary. They certainly won't choose McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 04/23/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

No, he lost because of his race

I dont think people like to get in touch with reality but thats what it is and that is seriously sad

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 04/23/2008
- LBM I'm a Fan of LBM permalink
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I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. More people polled won't vote for a woman than those who won't vote due to race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 04/23/2008
- roncraw I'm a Fan of roncraw 7 fans permalink

Come on get off the kool aid,Obama out spent her 3 to 1 and got 92% of the black vote and still couldn't win .It tells you something doesn't it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 04/23/2008
- deminohio I'm a Fan of deminohio 3 fans permalink

It is telling of the power of the Clinton brand in the democratic party. He is running against the both of them. More telling is the fact that he has the money to spend and she doesn't. Further him beating the brand is a far more impressive feat than winning Pennsylvania. Honestly you need to get off this site and get on to hers to donate. She doesn't need you to make an argument, she needs your money. If you have already done that, than do it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 04/23/2008
- roncraw I'm a Fan of roncraw 7 fans permalink

your logic make me wonder where you people heads are. Oh I forgot messiahs don't make mistakes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 04/23/2008

The black vote was 14% in PA, which is about the percentage nationwide. Nobody can win with just the black vote. Clinton had 57% of the black vote earlier in the contest and lost it. Bill got 90% of the black vote when he ran.

Doesn't mean anything. Hillary's best shot to get a 20 point margin of victory was PA. She had that margin but lost it. Now she has to do better than 20 points in the remaining contests.

She can't win, even if we give her credit for Florida. There was no contest in Michigan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 04/23/2008
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